Sesesese! ~Mezase Hatsu H! Doutei Joshi no Tokimeki Daisakusen~ - Ch. 17 - Vs. Guilt

[MangaDex]

 

[KuroZer0]

 

[themanthemyth]

so was she not actually raped?

 

[Mangamoz]

so was she not actually raped?

My random drunk theory is that the flashes to "her male self" she sees in her schizo-like moments is, that she may have already gotten raped in the past, and the shock fucked up her mind.

She may be somehow deluding herself into thinking her rapist is her past self.

Perhaps her obsession with sex is some odd projection of that.

The other theory is that he WAS a man afterall, raped a girl, and then switched places with his own victim.

 

[vannn]

The other theory is that he WAS a man afterall, raped a girl, and then switched places with his own victim.

MC has been on one, but let’s keep her somewhat sympathetic.

 

[Mangamoz]

MC has been on one, but let’s keep her somewhat sympathetic.

Kind of too late for that after she tazed the dude and tried to rape him while he was knocked out last chap.

Thats the part that sets off a red flag for me, she is willing to rape others, and is ok with herself getting raped.

Now she dreams of her own past male self, alone in a dark room with her current girl self, and is having weird mental flashes to that moment, seemingly terrified.

Something is up here, something likely ugly.

 

[MidnighTea]

My random drunk theory is that the flashes to "her male self" she sees in her schizo-like moments is, that she may have already gotten raped in the past, and the shock fucked up her mind.

She may be somehow deluding herself into thinking her rapist is her past self.

Perhaps her obsession with sex is some odd projection of that.

Been thinking all of the above from the start, honestly.

Rape is a horrific act to inflict on someone and a common thread in the stories of survivors is a sense of derealization. Of either emotionally shrinking into your own body or projecting it outwards. Anything to create a distance from what's happening to you.

Incidentally, a common form of therapy is finding it in yourself to revisit that place on your own terms. In fact many of the people I'd encountered online who are into lol*con stuff were survivors. Just... don't revisit it the way Ayano seems to be trying to.

 

[yuriloveisthebestlove]

Been thinking all of the above from the start, honestly.

Rape is a horrific act to inflict on someone and a common thread in the stories of survivors is a sense of derealization. Of either emotionally shrinking into your own body or projecting it outwards. Anything to create a distance from what's happening to you.

Incidentally, a common form of therapy is finding it in yourself to revisit that place on your own terms. In fact many of the people I'd encountered online who are into lol*con stuff were survivors. Just... don't revisit it the way Ayano seems to be trying to.

the last paragraph press x to doubt.

 

[MidnighTea]

the last paragraph press x to doubt.

First of all, I love your username. Brilliant, no notes.

Second... well. They're not as visible as the 4chan gooning squad, for sure. Heck being a CSA survivor practically comes with extreme social anxiety. I feel deeply honored to have met and earned their trust over the years.

 

[yuriloveisthebestlove]

my username... um thanks i guess.

 

[yuriloveisthebestlove]

so not just lol*con but also shot*con?

 

[darkhawk196]

Man somehow the dream part is oddly real idk how to describe it, but it kinda surreal and uneasy. One of the better one showing how dream feel like for sure

 

[Melkkkkkkk]

My random drunk theory is that the flashes to "her male self" she sees in her schizo-like moments is, that she may have already gotten raped in the past, and the shock fucked up her mind.

She may be somehow deluding herself into thinking her rapist is her past self.

Perhaps her obsession with sex is some odd projection of that.

The other theory is that he WAS a man afterall, raped a girl, and then switched places with his own victim.

also
- her limited know of s*x as "something everyone else do"

like for an old man to only know that much would be silly

but it would make sense if those were something that the old man told her

I still hope that it was really just reincarnated tho......

 

[Yokubou]

"I'll be back... when you dick gets hard." - Terminator

 

[the_blip]

Everyone in the comments with their deep theories on mental trauma and I'm still just laughing at this idiot who can't get s-sex.

 

[MidnighTea]

A good work can be enjoyable to different people contextualizing events in different ways.

My go-to example is Beavis and Butthead. An immature person who just wants to see chaos happen is going to enjoy all the chaos that happens and the bawdy humor. Someone who sees the show as a commentary on stagnant youth culture will have a lot to think about too. But you'll laugh no matter what when the punchlines hit and you know these two idiots will never, ever meet someone willing to have sex with them. Which... hm. Oddly relevant comparison.

 

[gr2222]

My random drunk theory is that the flashes to "her male self" she sees in her schizo-like moments is, that she may have already gotten raped in the past, and the shock fucked up her mind.

She may be somehow deluding herself into thinking her rapist is her past self.

Perhaps her obsession with sex is some odd projection of that.

The other theory is that he WAS a man afterall, raped a girl, and then switched places with his own victim.

i don't think that's how it is. every time she sees his old self in this manga, it's only on the topic of being friends with others, or being happy with others. (especially the flashback at her birthday wouldn't sit right with either of those theories) probably what's happening is, he had friends but due to some reasons they started hating him, and he started viewing himself negatively.

in the dream at the beginning of the chapter, it was probably something in the lines of herself trying to tell himself that he doesn't need to stay suck in the past. he was his old self stuck in the darkness inside the classroom, almost as if saying that something had happened in his school years and he never got over it, and his new self is trying to tell him something. (look at the zooming in the mouth in the third page) also light got in the room when his new self entered. since it is a dream it symbolizes, that. besides her family is the same as before becoming a girl, and as i said, the flashback with her birthday wouldn't make since if she is just traumatized and thinking she was a man.

 

[Melkie]

i don't think that's how it is. every time she sees his old self in this manga, it's only on the topic of being friends with others, or being happy with others. (especially the flashback at her birthday wouldn't sit right with either of those theories) probably what's happening is, he had friends but due to some reasons they started hating him, and he started viewing himself negatively.

in the dream at the beginning of the chapter, it was probably something in the lines of herself trying to tell himself that he doesn't need to stay suck in the past. he was his old self stuck in the darkness inside the classroom, almost as if saying that something had happened in his school years and he never got over it, and his new self is trying to tell him something. (look at the zooming in the mouth in the third page) also light got in the room when his new self entered. since it is a dream it symbolizes, that. besides her family is the same as before becoming a girl, and as i said, the flashback with her birthday wouldn't make since if she is just traumatized and thinking she was a man.

i like this
i enjoy a story of traumatized child who grow up reverted back to being a child more than a traumatized child thinking she's an adult