Shin'yaku Märchen - Vol. 3 Ch. 16 - The Princess Sleeping Within the Glass Coffin - Part 4
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oh my lord am I a dumbass? If anyone clearly understands please explain
what I gather is (maybe)
the evil queen is her real mother?
the little girl is the wise woman?
she is the actual evil queen?
what does tasting the nectar at the age of seven mean?
what?
ok, so, nothing fml
what I gather is (maybe)
the evil queen is her real mother?
the little girl is the wise woman?
she is the actual evil queen?
what does tasting the nectar at the age of seven mean?
what?
ok, so, nothing fml
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@blueoddog Hello!
I will try to answer the questions, but bear in mind that I'm speculating just as much as you might be, I just happened to listen to the album this series is based upon ("Märchen", by Sound Horizon - if I'm not mistaken you'd be able to listen to the songs on youtube!).
More than the Evil Queen being her mother, I think that perhaps it's to hint to the idea that the cycle is repeating itself. The Evil Queen married the King, but the only answer he could muster was how the last Queen was the most beautiful, leading her to try to destroy all the pictures, garments and anything that resembled the previous woman - except, of course, her daughter, Snow White.
The little girl probably isn't the Wise Woman - that would be Therese von Ludowing (as far as I can tell, she was a noble who fled her house perhaps due to an unexpect pregnancy? Either that or the fact that Mär was an albino - that wouldn't be the first time a child with those features would be taken as "accursed", according to some theories, in the albums - even regarding one of the stories in this series - so to protect him she fled the house during the night).
Perhaps the nectar part is trying to hint to something like the King turning his eyes to the young princess, since she has grown to look like her mother as each passing day? That could be the way the Evil Queen refers to her "tempting" the King - and perhaps to allude to the fact that maybe Snow White wasn't as innocent as she looked like? (the way she starts talking to the mirror the same way as the Evil Queen and being focused on her own beauty got thinking) // (that is not to say that I would be escusing or blaming Snow White for "tempting" the King or anything; that's disgusting).
Hope to have helped! Like I said, I'm speculating just like anyone else after reading this series!
I will try to answer the questions, but bear in mind that I'm speculating just as much as you might be, I just happened to listen to the album this series is based upon ("Märchen", by Sound Horizon - if I'm not mistaken you'd be able to listen to the songs on youtube!).
More than the Evil Queen being her mother, I think that perhaps it's to hint to the idea that the cycle is repeating itself. The Evil Queen married the King, but the only answer he could muster was how the last Queen was the most beautiful, leading her to try to destroy all the pictures, garments and anything that resembled the previous woman - except, of course, her daughter, Snow White.
The little girl probably isn't the Wise Woman - that would be Therese von Ludowing (as far as I can tell, she was a noble who fled her house perhaps due to an unexpect pregnancy? Either that or the fact that Mär was an albino - that wouldn't be the first time a child with those features would be taken as "accursed", according to some theories, in the albums - even regarding one of the stories in this series - so to protect him she fled the house during the night).
Perhaps the nectar part is trying to hint to something like the King turning his eyes to the young princess, since she has grown to look like her mother as each passing day? That could be the way the Evil Queen refers to her "tempting" the King - and perhaps to allude to the fact that maybe Snow White wasn't as innocent as she looked like? (the way she starts talking to the mirror the same way as the Evil Queen and being focused on her own beauty got thinking) // (that is not to say that I would be escusing or blaming Snow White for "tempting" the King or anything; that's disgusting).
Hope to have helped! Like I said, I'm speculating just like anyone else after reading this series!
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@Erythea THANK YOU SO MUCH, you have no ideia about how much time after reading it I spent brooding over and over; this manga is really beautiful and well done, but at the same time very confusing for me. Some sudden shifts still get me.
As for example when the blond girl became tiny and such. Or when the sailor man that was navigating actually didn't end up where he wanted and a woman with something similar to a hijab told him so (is he the man in the well?). I also don't really understand how the stories connect in a deeper sense rather than the well dude offering some sort of revenge for the girls. Like, the first one ended so suddenly that it made me think that it had to have a continuation of some sort. The blonde girl really bugs me as well.
I tried listening the beggining of Marchen, but it didn't quite click with me
If you know anything about it please share with me, haha...
As for example when the blond girl became tiny and such. Or when the sailor man that was navigating actually didn't end up where he wanted and a woman with something similar to a hijab told him so (is he the man in the well?). I also don't really understand how the stories connect in a deeper sense rather than the well dude offering some sort of revenge for the girls. Like, the first one ended so suddenly that it made me think that it had to have a continuation of some sort. The blonde girl really bugs me as well.
I tried listening the beggining of Marchen, but it didn't quite click with me
If you know anything about it please share with me, haha...
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@blueoddog I’m so thrilled I was able to help!! I felt a little discouraged after seeing the date from the comment, but thought that it wouldn’t hurt to try? I’m so glad I did!!
As for the stories being connected, I feel the same as you - it’s really confusing, but I guess it’s because it comes from a music album? The main theme is that those would be “revenges” from the fairy tale princesses, folktale and urban legends heroines against the villains who wronged them (however, as any story these are told from their perspective, and the mangaka tried to add a little by showing us the reasoning and backstory from the so-called villains too). As far as I can tell, they also would represent tales from the seven deadly sins, hence the animals on each of the princesses/heroines mask.
For the blonde girl, as I recall the fans originally called her “Mamako” and she is the daughter of that captain (Idolfried Ehrenberg). I really don’t know much about him, but as she told us that “he fell in the well and died”, perhaps he had a similar role as Mär took when the Plague Doctors threw him there? To be reborn as a spirit of revenge and retribution (not to mention that Elise seems to know more than she lets on). Perhaps the woman with a veil/hijab is referring to such fate (and that’s just my theory, but she may be related to another single of Sound Horizon, Seisen no Iberia (in which the protagonist is a girl born in the middle of the Moros and Iberos over the Iberian Peninsula).
As for the stories being connected, I feel the same as you - it’s really confusing, but I guess it’s because it comes from a music album? The main theme is that those would be “revenges” from the fairy tale princesses, folktale and urban legends heroines against the villains who wronged them (however, as any story these are told from their perspective, and the mangaka tried to add a little by showing us the reasoning and backstory from the so-called villains too). As far as I can tell, they also would represent tales from the seven deadly sins, hence the animals on each of the princesses/heroines mask.
For the blonde girl, as I recall the fans originally called her “Mamako” and she is the daughter of that captain (Idolfried Ehrenberg). I really don’t know much about him, but as she told us that “he fell in the well and died”, perhaps he had a similar role as Mär took when the Plague Doctors threw him there? To be reborn as a spirit of revenge and retribution (not to mention that Elise seems to know more than she lets on). Perhaps the woman with a veil/hijab is referring to such fate (and that’s just my theory, but she may be related to another single of Sound Horizon, Seisen no Iberia (in which the protagonist is a girl born in the middle of the Moros and Iberos over the Iberian Peninsula).
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@erythea Yes, I really adore the formula of us learning the villains perspective. I think that this is what makes me hooked. Even thought I didn't understand the Cinderella like story, and why Mar simply didn't appear anymore sobsobsob, I'd think he is now, but the garments are still the same as the captain's, aren't they? I have to reread it ugh; I DIDNT EVEN REALIZE THE 7 DEADLY SINS THINGS damn. And thank you again for taking you time to answer my dumbass questions lol
Man, there's simply so much mystery.
Mamako means ''stepchild'' if that makes any sense. I think he is meant to be the next spirit of revenge as well, but then again, I didn't listen to the album. You think we'll get any answers? Because the questions keep piling up and I don't seem to get any insight in the whole picture.
Man, there's simply so much mystery.
Mamako means ''stepchild'' if that makes any sense. I think he is meant to be the next spirit of revenge as well, but then again, I didn't listen to the album. You think we'll get any answers? Because the questions keep piling up and I don't seem to get any insight in the whole picture.
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@blueoddog I think the mangaka implied that Mär got turned into the spirit of revenge conducting all these stories, that black-haired fella that Elise talks to (Märchen von Friedhof), and perhaps the whole thing with dying and being ressurected made him lose his memories, and the doll really likes things that way - being pampered and just getting to spend time with him at all. And yes! The garments are pretty much the same as the captains, that's why I believe Mär is not the first to be brought back in this role of "conductor".
No need to thank me for anything! And your questions are not dumb at all! I'm so thrilled to be able to talk with someone else about this manga, you have no idea!!
If taking the album alone, then we will definetly get an ending for this whole story, but answers? Let's say that Sound Horizon (especially Revo, the lead composer) really like to let their stories vague, but seen as the mangaka has already added so much with the backstories then maybe we will get some more direct answers for the questions and mysteries popping up! I can't wait for any update, really!!
No need to thank me for anything! And your questions are not dumb at all! I'm so thrilled to be able to talk with someone else about this manga, you have no idea!!
If taking the album alone, then we will definetly get an ending for this whole story, but answers? Let's say that Sound Horizon (especially Revo, the lead composer) really like to let their stories vague, but seen as the mangaka has already added so much with the backstories then maybe we will get some more direct answers for the questions and mysteries popping up! I can't wait for any update, really!!
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