The Most Notorious "Talker" Runs the World's Greatest Clan - Ch. 52 - Rival

[feha]

He can't. He misjudged the one seeker putting his bet on her thinking that she must be clever to get to her position. She got pretty much beaten, and then turned it around because she had an asspull powerup that needed a sacrifice. She was more reckless and brawn. (I forgot if she lost in the end)

he can. it was literally the first thing they established when he classed-up. (ch 29)

 

[jonsmth]

he can. it was literally the first thing they established when he classed-up. (ch 29)

It's not absolute. It's just parallel thought that makes predictions that is  close to predicting the future. The thing I mentioned is in a later chapter and it showed that he can be wrong. He wouldn't be able to make a correct prediction in the absence of information. He couldn't have predicted an asspull.

 

[feha]

It's not absolute. It's just parallel thought that makes predictions that is  close to predicting the future. The thing I mentioned is in a later chapter and it showed that he can be wrong. He wouldn't be able to make a correct prediction in the absence of information. He couldn't have predicted an asspull.

And my entire point is that to even be close, you need to be able to predict asspulls. If some rando from a nowhere farm showing up in a city ends up butterfree-winging stuff so one year later your target dies from cholesterol levels, you have to be able to predict that said rando would show up and do that.
You aren't close to predicting anything if your target dies before they can join your party. You are just outright wrong. (being close != having a high prediction hitrate. A meterologist's modern models are not 'close' to predicting the future, they are predicting the future with a high probability of being correct, and a low probability of being wrong)

In other words, any later scenes where he is wrong (like the one this chapter), is him lying. And actually having predicted stuff, but acting as if he didn't, to butterfree it out so the future he desires happens.

 

[jonsmth]

And my entire point is that to even be close, you need to be able to predict asspulls. If some rando from a nowhere farm showing up in a city ends up butterfree-winging stuff so one year later your target dies from cholesterol levels, you have to be able to predict that said rando would show up and do that.
You aren't close to predicting anything if your target dies before they can join your party. You are just outright wrong. (being close != having a high prediction hitrate. A meterologist's modern models are not 'close' to predicting the future, they are predicting the future with a high probability of being correct, and a low probability of being wrong)

In other words, any later scenes where he is wrong (like the one this chapter), is him lying. And actually having predicted stuff, but acting as if he didn't, to butterfree it out so the future he desires happens.

... you referred to the chapter when he got his class up. That "close" wording is from that chapter, not mine. Argue with the author/TL, not me, lol

Without reading too much into it, all his class ability gave him is just parallel thought. He's just calculating things and making predictions based on what he knows or can observe. Asspulls are unknowns thus are unpredictable. For your meteorologist analogy, it would be like being unable to make predictions because you don't actually have satellite images.

 

[feha]

... you referred to the chapter when he got his class up. That "close" wording is from that chapter, not mine. Argue with the author/TL, not me, lol

No I was not arguing against the wording "close". I was pointing out what "close" means, to someone who seems to believe it means a chance to get it wrong. When it in fact means something else (always gets it right, but with minor negligible deviations that are so small they can't even chaos-theory to deviate predictions for even more distant futures).
And as such, drawing the conclusion that he can't be wrong with his predictions, and any time he pretended to be wrong, it has been an intentional act.

Without reading too much into it, all his class ability gave him is just parallel thought. He's just calculating things and making predictions based on what he knows or can observe.

No, if this was the case, then he could be wrong. It upped his intelligence so much he doesn't only predict what he can see, but actually manages to extrapolate the entire causally relevant world so he can include it in his predictions.

Asspulls are unknowns thus are unpredictable. For your meteorologist analogy, it would be like being unable to make predictions because you don't actually have satellite images.

Except it was described as never being wrong, so somehow the meteorologist still gets close to predicting it perfectly. So somehow they must have predicted the asspulls too.