TSUYOSHI - Ch. 288 - Outcast

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She's being the one who's more forceful but Teru is the one subtly manipulating the situation to escalate it to a breaking point.
 
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1. Teru didn't use these words, nothing says Tsuyoshi couldn't walk out, or get involved himself (like replacing Teru in the fight)
2. what's your point? Teru apologized for betting Tsuyoshi without permission 2 chapters ago. the bet has nothing to do with Tsuyoshi's girlfriend, and nothing suggests the bet will make Tsuyoshi himself a greater criminal or something.

? not sure why you think Teru is giving her an ultimatum.

as this quote mentioned:

she's actually the one being more forceful this chapter by immediately asking Tsuyoshi to cut ties.
The thing I'm getting at is that Teru positioned himself into Tsuyoshi's life as something he can't live without even if it wasn't his fault Tsuyoshi was put in his situation. Is the girl being more forceful in this chapter yes, but I'm talking about Teru as a whole who has latched on harder than ever after the tournament. So Teru doesn't need to be forceful because Tsuyoshi is already trapped by circumstance.
 

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The thing I'm getting at is that Teru positioned himself into Tsuyoshi's life as something he can't live without even if it wasn't his fault Tsuyoshi was put in his situation. Is the girl being more forceful in this chapter yes, but I'm talking about Teru as a whole who has latched on harder than ever after the tournament. So Teru doesn't need to be forceful because Tsuyoshi is already trapped by circumstance.
Since you agreed that Tsuyoshi's circumstances isn't Teru fault, it should be obvious Teru isn't a being toxic yandere

Teru is just trying to make things work in the way he knows best since he obviously doesn't have actual political connections/legitimate business skills to get Tsuyoshi out of his situation, and even though Tsuyoshi didn't approve of it, he had time to walk away from it because Teru is too scared and respectful of Tsuyoshi to truly defy him, and try on his own.
 
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Since you agreed that Tsuyoshi's circumstances isn't Teru fault, it should be obvious Teru isn't a being toxic yandere

Teru is just trying to make things work in the way he knows best since he obviously doesn't have actual political connections/legitimate business skills to get Tsuyoshi out of his situation, and even though Tsuyoshi didn't approve of it, he had time to walk away from it because Teru is too scared and respectful of Tsuyoshi to truly defy him, and try on his own.
I knew it'd be the Yandere line that would be the point of contention. That was just a joke along with brofriend. We both agree that Tsuyoshi has a choice and instead of choosing to be with this girl who seemingly has no ulterior motives, he decide to stay with Teru who has already pushed Hoshizaki away. That's what I meant by yandere brofriend. He's clingy, needed, and wants to be the only one. He even if he doesn't defy him, he'll do his best to be by his side and do what HE thinks is best for Tsuyoshi.
 

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I knew it'd be the Yandere line that would be the point of contention. That was just a joke along with brofriend. ...
I suggest you clarify your jokes next time because you continuing the debate made it seem like you weren't joking
seemingly has no ulterior motives
which is important because she's pretty suspicious - like being forceful this chapter.
Teru who has already pushed Hoshizaki away
that happened over a year ago, and before he learned about Tsuyoshi being labelled anti-social
wants to be the only one. .
not quite accurate: number one

Teru does know he is jealous, but does know that he should be happy for Tsuyoshi if he gets a proper girlfriend (chapter 277, 281) and is ready to support him if his suspicions of her being a spy turns out true
 
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I suggest you clarify your jokes next time because you continuing the debate made it seem like you weren't joking

which is important because she's pretty suspicious - like being forceful this chapter.

that happened over a year ago, and before he learned about Tsuyoshi being labelled anti-social

not quite accurate, number one

Teru does know he is jealous, but rationalizes that he should be happy for Tsuyoshi if he gets a proper girlfriend (chapter 277) and is ready to support him if his suspicions of her being a spy turns out true
I think the putting Yandere next to brofriend is enough to tell that I'm joking. But semantics, aside the reason I'm replying is because you're insuating that Teru isn't a toxicc friend. Sure this girl isn't suspicious but I've seen the things Teru has done througout this whole story. Teru who's ben doing things behind Tsuyoshi's back and in his name and only repents when he gets caught. And he's been this way with every other chracter from the start of this seires. He just bearly treats Tsuyoshi more like a person than the govenment officials and he's been this clingy since they've got of the Russian ship.

If we're being as sematntic as, "is Teru being toxic in THIS chapter" I'd still say yes. He's definintly being worse than the girl. She's at least asking Tsuyoshi to live as normal a life he can while Teru still wants him to be around secret underground fighting arenas. The one thing he has never wanted this whole manga.
 
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Tsuyoshi sticking with his bros. I think he's grown alot that he can make a decision even if it hurts him to do so. Japan has treated him like shit so I hope Teru's plan works out for them.
 
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It's an interesting dilemma, Tsuyoshi could have chosen between what he's been interested in for so long, or the potential cure for all of his problems. As an "anti-social", he has no choice but to live outside of standard society and the law, so the choice was between someone who wanted nothing to do with the lifestyle he had no choice but to lead and the friends and comrades who had been with him from rock-bottom onwards. Him choosing his found family in this situation makes sense logically, but it also shows just how much Tsuyoshi has grown from the guy that left a spy to run wild in his life because he foolishly thought he had a chance with her.
 
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i'm too sad for my man tsuyoshi, his life is fucked up no matter what. Tbf teru plan sound stupid but possible, mad respect for him to commit to this.
 
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WOOOOOOOOOOW I did NOT expect him to call them his comrades, like MAN, that's actually really sweet... If only they weren't in this situation... Tsuyoshi deserves better, man.
 

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