Uchi no Maid ga Class no Suki na Ko ni Nite Iru - Ch. 1

[pir0zhki]

Alright, I'll bite. Setup was a bit clumsy but we can work with this.

 

[SatePak]

Need more

 

[emMeBi86]

The biggest plot twist is that her normal hair are the blonde ones when she is in maid form. I thought it was the opposite

 

[AgniZet]

No one's saying that all flirting is a sin, though I think that it's important to keep in mind that in Japan, more so than anywhere else, public displays of affection are strongly frowned upon, even between couples that are already together, which likely contributes to the level of what's considered unacceptable when you don't know the person.

Also relevant is the fact that in both of the scenarios you've described, elevators and public transport are both places where you're standing still for a time. If you talk to someone there, there're not usually doing anything else in the same way someone on the street is going somewhere. So socializing is more acceptable in these cases. Especially considering the fact that some people find silence awkward, it may even be expected.

And in the cliche "bumping into each other on the street" scenario, no one's flirting. It's almost always a brief "sorry" followed by an actual meeting later. Plus, the characters are being forced to interact; there's no intentional decision there to criticize.

But even still, context. Because, yes, people can fall in love on the street, but that doesn't mean that flirting with random girls on the street isn't harassment.

The thing is the MC thinks no decent person would flirt, which I think is stupid. Also characters have to interact in a romance or in a story in general, forced or otherwise so that there is a plot.

 

[Lunkli]

The thing is the MC thinks no decent person would flirt, which I think is stupid.

No he doesn't. Reread the chapter.

The closest he comes to saying it is "a proper guy wouldn't hit on her to begin with," but this is, again, a moment where you need to take context into account. This is an older guy hitting on a girl that he does not know in a school uniform in the middle of the street. If he were "proper," he would not do that, and would rather be hitting on someone in a more appropriate context.

i.e. In a bar, to someone he's spoken to before, to someone that's not walking home from school, to someone that's not a child, &c.

 

[AgniZet]

No he doesn't. Reread the chapter.

The closest he comes to saying it is "a proper guy wouldn't hit on her to begin with," but this is, again, a moment where you need to take context into account. This is an older guy hitting on a girl that he does not know in a school uniform in the middle of the street. If he were "proper," he would not do that, and would rather be hitting on someone in a more appropriate context.

i.e. In a bar, to someone he's spoken to before, to someone that's not walking home from school, to someone that's not a child, &c.

That's fair. Though your hostility is unwelcomed.

 

[Lunkli]

That's fair. Though your hostility is unwelcomed.

Sorry if I came across as hostile, it was not my intent.

Surely you can understand how the way you're responding might feel a bit frustrating, though? You're repeating the same thing over and over that manga as a genre is "anti-flirting" because of the commonality of "demonizing" adult pick-up artists trying to bang highschool girls.

I don't know if you noticed, but it really comes across as if you're defending this behavior, and intentionally broadening the scope of a topic is a very common tactic used by people trying to argue more controversial opinions while appearing otherwise. (Often to limit success.) i.e. "You think that pirating is sometimes okay? So you think that it should be legal to steal a car?"

I'm not saying that this applies to you, but it looks like it does, and the act it appears as if you are trying to condone is harassing young girls on street. It's a bad look, so it'd probably be a good idea for you to be a bit more self aware in that regard if you want to prevent things like this in the future. Doesn't mean you can't argue this position, though you should just be a bit more careful about how you look while doing so.

 

[AgniZet]

Sorry if I came across as hostile, it was not my intent.

Surely you can understand how the way you're responding might feel a bit frustrating, though? You're repeating the same thing over and over that manga as a genre is "anti-flirting" because of the commonality of "demonizing" adult pick-up artists trying to bang highschool girls.

I don't know if you noticed, but it really comes across as if you're defending this behavior, and intentionally broadening the scope of a topic is a very common tactic used by people trying to argue more controversial opinions while appearing otherwise. (Often to limit success.) i.e. "You think that pirating is sometimes okay? So you think that it should be legal to steal a car?"

I'm not saying that this applies to you, but it looks like it does, and the act it appears as if you are trying to condone is harassing young girls on street. It's a bad look, so it'd probably be a good idea for you to be a bit more self aware in that regard if you want to prevent things like this in the future. Doesn't mean you can't argue this position, though you should just be a bit more careful about how you look while doing so.

Understandable. I will point out that in Japan that us pirating manga like this is very much a crime and they do not care for our concept of pirating. In fact the Japanese would rather block us from reading and watching series that have not have official channels if they could, like this manga for example. I personally do not equate pirating series with actual theft.

While you are correct and right, there has been various mangas where guys hit on girls in places like bars and such and the girls are adults but the flirters are treated like scum.
Then the MC save the girl to make a connection. I feel its cheap asf, while not lazy as isekai slavery but still feels cheap.

 

[timcal2136]

No one's saying that all flirting is a sin, though I think that it's important to keep in mind that in Japan, more so than anywhere else, public displays of affection are strongly frowned upon, even between couples that are already together, which likely contributes to the level of what's considered unacceptable when you don't know the person.

Also relevant is the fact that in both of the scenarios you've described, elevators and public transport are both places where you're standing still for a time. If you talk to someone there, there're not usually doing anything else in the same way someone on the street is going somewhere. So socializing is more acceptable in these cases. Especially considering the fact that some people find silence awkward, it may even be expected.

And in the cliche "bumping into each other on the street" scenario, no one's flirting. It's almost always a brief "sorry" followed by an actual meeting later. Plus, the characters are being forced to interact; there's no intentional decision there to criticize.

But even still, context. Because, yes, people can fall in love on the street, but that doesn't mean that flirting with random girls on the street isn't harassment.

“no one is saying all flirting is a sin” brother, that is quite literally what the MC of this manga said during the altercation lol

 

[Lunkli]

“no one is saying all flirting is a sin” brother, that is quite literally what the MC of this manga said during the altercation lol

No, it isn't. He says one thing about one scenario, but you're fallaciously expanding that into him condemning flirting as a whole, making it appear as if you have some stake in conflating harassing young girls on the street and flirting in socially acceptable scenarios.

 

[NutzYaboku77]

Guys should be allowed to hit on girls, its kinda annoying that guys wanting to hit on girls is so demonized in manga or anime. Its one thing its hitting on a person in a relationship, but if a person is single, then people can shoot their shot, either failed or score.

You might be right cuz in most of shounen manga there's the FMC hitting on the protagonist although the MC is too dense to even catch their drift. But the notion of guys hitting on girls is always portrayed as some playboy-ish man bothering the FMC saying something along the lines of "Wanna go have fun" or "Fool around". But if want to see the Male lead make an effort to try and win the girl, then shounen isn't the pick. Cuz all they do is be kind and dense and all girls will fall for them anyways. It's a royal rumble from there on or just straight up catch em all.

 

[Aoitenshi]

There seems to be heated discussion, but don't forget that this is all a manga trope. There is no moral to be taken here.

 

[Silfir]

The biggest plot twist is that her normal hair are the blonde ones when she is in maid form. I thought it was the opposite

That indeed is the one thing about this setup that's at least somewhat novel. It's usually regular high school girls who work as maids (conveniently for a male classmate's household), not maids going undercover as high school girls. Though even the latter is not unheard of, even with this specific hair color. Maybe the author is a disappointed Hayasaka superfan?

 

[123moh555]

Oh this got serialized, nice

 

[WarTails]

I thought they were going to be the same person, but I thought the maid was the fake part not the school girl....