Ueno-kun wa Kaihatsuzumi - Ch. 70 - Arousal and Compatibility

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So now she knows everything, including how he’s not excited by her and doesn’t see her in a sexual way. We all expect that’s mutual, but it would have been better if she was just as honest with Ueno.

Let’s face it, she’s too good for him in pretty much every way. She knows that and she knows that Ueno won’t be able to get her off. It would have been kinder for Moka to just break up with Ueno, rather than making him go through this humiliating test and fail. They could have stayed friends in some way in that case, but after this upcoming failure? There isn’t a word for that level of embarrassment and self loathing.

The only good news is that the hotel looks tall, so the jump from the roof afterwards should finish him off cleanly.
 
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Yeah, they're actually communicating pretty well right now. Both of them going to see if they're sexually compatible, with both having the understanding that there's a good chance they're not, They're not upset with each other, they're talking openly about the situation, neither is blaming the other, and they're both acknowledging the absurd reality of the situation.

Like, barring running into her ex or his bullies at the love hotel, it probably can't go worse than them realising they're not compatible and breaking up fairly amicably. This is a relatively mature way for a couple of 18 year olds to figure things out.
It also fits in pretty well with Moka's story arc if they breakup on good terms. Instead of the huge disaster that was her first breakup with her ex where she lost her confidence, here she could stay friends and move on without any regrets.

I genuinely didn't expect to be so into this manga when I first started it lol, it's so good at handling the romance and relationships for a femdom fetish erotica.
 
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So now she knows everything, including how he’s not excited by her and doesn’t see her in a sexual way. We all expect that’s mutual, but it would have been better if she was just as honest with Ueno.

Let’s face it, she’s too good for him in pretty much every way. She knows that and she knows that Ueno won’t be able to get her off. It would have been kinder for Moka to just break up with Ueno, rather than making him go through this humiliating test and fail. They could have stayed friends in some way in that case, but after this upcoming failure? There isn’t a word for that level of embarrassment and self loathing.

The only good news is that the hotel looks tall, so the jump from the roof afterwards should finish him off cleanly.

I think it's too early to decide they're going to breakup, they're handling it pretty well so far.
 
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Gonna take a shot in the dark....somehow this is gonna end up in a three way relationship with tsubomi and manaka....tsubomi will be the one who....lets say gets him worked up...and manaka is the one his heart belongs to.
 
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She just needs to step on him and be alil mean about and hes hers... it's a fairly clear pathway forward aslong as she can be comfortable being the dominant one during intimate moments, the communication is clear they now understand each other now they just gotta work together towards shared enjoyment I'd say a heathly relationship is doable for them now
 
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I mean, if they arent fitting each other they wont be able to work around that.

Maybe they will get over all of this and stay as friends. In fact, if he ends up with no one but manage to go throught his issues it will be a wsy better ending.
 
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I see a lot of people that got they hopes too high, probably nothing good will come after entering this hotel
 
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There’s no better proof that they’re both incurable masochists than this trip to the love hotel.
 
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segggs in the next chapter ??? finally, Ueno-kun lost his virginity :meguupog::meguupog:

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Welp guys we all living in rollecoaster. Last chapter was great sign between them but this chapter a bit ambiguous. So just like always I support tsubami route XD
 
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She just needs to step on him and be alil mean about and hes hers... it's a fairly clear pathway forward aslong as she can be comfortable being the dominant one during intimate moments, the communication is clear they now understand each other now they just gotta work together towards shared enjoyment I'd say a heathly relationship is doable for them now
To quote Sensei from "Nana to Kaoru", "Some people need S&M, others don't" - this couple may need it. Like, both of them, to switch for each other. But yeah, I don't think a sexless relationship is what either of them wants even if it's not the biggest part of what they like about each other.
 
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Eh, NTR mentions don't bother me but quite frankly on both sides I think we're past NTR.

Moka turned down her ex-boyfriend even after he won against Ueno and Ueno is doing his best to reject the three bully girls even if his body still reacts to them.

Chisaki's absence isn't that bad, she's probably going to have a serious talk with Ueno soon, maybe she makes one last desperate move, not to keep him as her slave but because she's realised that she loves him but I don't think it will work, if anything, from here on out it will just be Ueno and Moka working through their issues.

That isn't to say that NTR is out of the question but I think it would only happen on Ueno's side, I don't see Moka's ex boyfriend coming back, he only wanted Moka because he was clinging to the past, but NTR on Ueno's side is still pretty hard, Tsubomi isn't gonna try anything, honestly she's the most positive out of the three bully girls, Kanako certainly won't try anything now, her recent kiss was an impulsive and desperate move because she still hasn't gotten over Chisaki however she also made it clear to Chisaki that she doesn't want to hurt Moka, so really, it's only Chisaki that could make NTR happen.

But I don't think she will, I don't think she has it in her to go upsetting Moka like that she's not nearly malicious enough to do that, I guess I should also mention that Moka and Ueno breaking up is possible as well, but it's unlikely in my eyes, despite everything that happens in this story, it's still pretty light and author doesn't seem to be going for a bad ending.
Good post, I respectfully disagree. only slightly though

I do think Chisaki will steal Ueno, but it isn't going to be instant or abruptly, it will be a slow burn over time. I don't think it will be DIRECTLY an NTR. But moreso an intricate form of trying to rouse burried emotions... Kinda like an affair
I think Chisaki will plant the seeds and then Ueno will simply fall into her hands

Though short, it showed a very brief scene of Ueno and Chisaki being pent up, which indicates that they are trying to endure.
I get this feeling that it will simply overfill and either he or she will spiral of control. She could exploit his obviously known weakness, but there also seems to be a hint of guilt from Ueno that she could take advantage of: Ueno has a problem, and she will conveniently be his only solution

Since you mentioned Kanako, I'll say this much, I don't think Kanoko actually expected Moka to be there, nor wants to disrupt their relationship, they clearly have that much self-respect, however, I don't think Chisaki will just let things remain this way
Between Kanoko and Tsubomi, there is a subtle indication of testing newfound boundaries.
Tsubomi wanted a "one last time" thing, and Kanoko somewhat forced herself. Those two are kind of like two extremes of the spectrum, and could serve to indicate what Ueno's newly discovered boundaries could be, maybe they are indications of cracks his defense mechanisms and Chisaki could be the one who slips inside
The three of them are friends afterall, i doubt they're working together to that degree, but it could be something unspoken or even unconscious that occurs
After all, Chisaki didn't bully him alone, it was all three of them

This is why, I feel, Moka's ex-boyfriend made an appearance at all and what purpose he served for the story, he is foil to establish the boundary that this form of "a past lover suddenly appeared!" presence simply won't work!

I think Chisaki is deliberately giving Ueno time to see for himself that it cannot possibly work. This is how the symbolism of their past self, talking to their present self plays such a role.

I guess since the genre tags have harem... maybe it will be a strange twist of an ending, but I hope that is far from now so I won't make any guesses or predictions. So lets not go there... yet
 
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Do those girls really bully him that much anymore? Not really 😕. Lately, they're pretty nice to him for the most part in the later half of the story.

I really hope he doesn't end with her. I could see something happening, but their relationship just isn't very interesting.
 
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Good post, I respectfully disagree. only slightly though

I do think Chisaki will steal Ueno, but it isn't going to be instant or abruptly, it will be a slow burn over time. I don't think it will be DIRECTLY an NTR. But moreso an intricate form of trying to rouse burried emotions... Kinda like an affair
I think Chisaki will plant the seeds and then Ueno will simply fall into her hands

Though short, it showed a very brief scene of Ueno and Chisaki being pent up, which indicates that they are trying to endure.
I get this feeling that it will simply overfill and either he or she will spiral of control. She could exploit his obviously known weakness, but there also seems to be a hint of guilt from Ueno that she could take advantage of: Ueno has a problem, and she will conveniently be his only solution

Since you mentioned Kanako, I'll say this much, I don't think Kanoko actually expected Moka to be there, nor wants to disrupt their relationship, they clearly have that much self-respect, however, I don't think Chisaki will just let things remain this way
Between Kanoko and Tsubomi, there is a subtle indication of testing newfound boundaries.
Tsubomi wanted a "one last time" thing, and Kanoko somewhat forced herself. Those two are kind of like two extremes of the spectrum, and could serve to indicate what Ueno's newly discovered boundaries could be, maybe they are indications of cracks his defense mechanisms and Chisaki could be the one who slips inside
The three of them are friends afterall, i doubt they're working together to that degree, but it could be something unspoken or even unconscious that occurs
After all, Chisaki didn't bully him alone, it was all three of them

This is why, I feel, Moka's ex-boyfriend made an appearance at all and what purpose he served for the story, he is foil to establish the boundary that this form of "a past lover suddenly appeared!" presence simply won't work!

I think Chisaki is deliberately giving Ueno time to see for himself that it cannot possibly work. This is how the symbolism of their past self, talking to their present self plays such a role.

I guess since the genre tags have harem... maybe it will be a strange twist of an ending, but I hope that is far from now so I won't make any guesses or predictions. So lets not go there... yet

Hmmm, fair fair.

I guess if any girls out of the bully trio are going to try their luck getting with Ueno then it would be Chisaki, I'm still not convinced, I honestly think the author will play out the rest of this series relatively straight.

But if Chisaki and Ueno do get together, I think it is more likely it will happen IF things don't work out between Ueno and Moka, Ueno isn't willing to cheat on her and even if his body still submits to the girls he won't let things get that far, he rejected Tsubomi and only orgasmed for Kanoko because she literally forced the kiss and he got caught off guard.

Let's assume Chisaki is willing to steal Ueno from Moka, two massive problems now are that Ueno wants to move forward and Moka now knows about everything the trio has done, there's a good possibility she's going to be protective of Ueno so if Chisaki wants to do anything she would need to catch Ueno alone and even then, Ueno has shown he can resist her even if he later is shown being pent up.

No, I don't think the girls are working together, none of them are even fully aware of what the other girls have done to Ueno and frankly when that revelation becomes apparent that might blow up in all their faces and stop any stealing or further sexual advances on Ueno, Chiaski in particular probably would have some strong feelings if she found out Kanako tried to sleep with Ueno and I think if Tsubomi becomes aware of what the other girls have done then I do believe she would end up siding with Moka in a sense that she's not going to let Ueno be treated that way anymore, I do think Tsubomi has been the most honest about wanting to move on from what she's done before.

Honestly, I'm not even convinced the trio's friendship will survive when everything is out in the open, Kanoko herself has commented such things before when Ueno made it clear he wants to date Moka, if their friendship does survive then I can see there being a rift for awhile.


As for harem, I don't think that's on the cards for the ending, pretty sure the harem tag is only a thing for this series is because Ueno has a harem of girls bullying him that aren't aware of the other, as far as the ending goes, I only see two endings at the moment:

1. Ueno stays with Moka after they work through all their problems.
2. Ueno breaks up with Moka but they remain friends and continue striving to improve themselves ala "Looking to the future" type ending.
 
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Hmmm, fair fair.

I guess if any girls out of the bully trio are going to try their luck getting with Ueno then it would be Chisaki, I'm still not convinced, I honestly think the author will play out the rest of this series relatively straight.

But if Chisaki and Ueno do get together, I think it is more likely it will happen IF things don't work out between Ueno and Moka, Ueno isn't willing to cheat on her and even if his body still submits to the girls he won't let things get that far, he rejected Tsubomi and only orgasmed for Kanoko because she literally forced the kiss and he got caught off guard.

Let's assume Chisaki is willing to steal Ueno from Moka, two massive problems now are that Ueno wants to move forward and Moka now knows about everything the trio has done, there's a good possibility she's going to be protective of Ueno so if Chisaki wants to do anything she would need to catch Ueno alone and even then, Ueno has shown he can resist her even if he later is shown being pent up.

No, I don't think the girls are working together, none of them are even fully aware of what the other girls have done to Ueno and frankly when that revelation becomes apparent that might blow up in all their faces and stop any stealing or further sexual advances on Ueno, Chiaski in particular probably would have some strong feelings if she found out Kanako tried to sleep with Ueno and I think if Tsubomi becomes aware of what the other girls have done then I do believe she would end up siding with Moka in a sense that she's not going to let Ueno be treated that way anymore, I do think Tsubomi has been the most honest about wanting to move on from what she's done before.

Honestly, I'm not even convinced the trio's friendship will survive when everything is out in the open, Kanoko herself has commented such things before when Ueno made it clear he wants to date Moka, if their friendship does survive then I can see there being a rift for awhile.


As for harem, I don't think that's on the cards for the ending, pretty sure the harem tag is only a thing for this series is because Ueno has a harem of girls bullying him that aren't aware of the other, as far as the ending goes, I only see two endings at the moment:

1. Ueno stays with Moka after they work through all their problems.
2. Ueno breaks up with Moka but they remain friends and continue striving to improve themselves ala "Looking to the future" type ending.
Just a couple of closing thoughts for this post. For the sake of clarity. I respect your opinions

Firstly, I want to stress about the "girls are working together" statement. I didn't convey this well.
There is a certain particularity about friendships that makes one more... lets say, tolerant of another's inhibitions.
So in this case, consider the question: If Chisaki were to make a move on Ueno, what would Tsubomi and Kanoko do?
As in many of the flashbacks and backstories, Chisaki is the defacto ringleader, this doesn't necessarily mean Kanoko and Tsubomi want to bully him, but they take part!

This is an example of 'working together' that I wanted to originally convey, they band together when the occasion simply fits. But does not necessarily mean they desire to do so, they simply conform to the circumstance, and become enablers, whether willing or not
Kanoko has, on several occasions, not only expressed she loves Chisaki, but also, that she hates Ueno. And she literally tried to tie him up and lock him in her house.
This can, I suppose, be a front. But that essentially is two-pronged.

Most people, in particular friends circles work this way.
Its why most people are unaware when they are enablers. I do not believe Tsubomi or Kanoko will necessarily interfere or even stop Chisaki if she did try to do anything. But I think they would be more likely to enable Chisaki, or simply stand aside should she have her way, as opposed to the inverse

Secondly, the harem statement.
I'll say it just for the sake of saying, no! I do not believe Ueno will bag them all like most harem slop that leads to fatigue
But this is moreso, a status quo if you will
I believe the author will keep a character's certain element for the sake of the story's drive, and harem being one of them, essentially means Ueno has multiple potential love interests, regardless of their current state. And as such, will frame the story to maintain this.
To some degree, people could look at the current state of Tsubomi & Ueno's recent development, figure out its a resolution of sorts and call it a day! Or the author can keep her function continuous in the story for more possible developments.

But if every character reaches the same resolution and they get picked off one by one, the story loses a core principle of its premise, and that isn't always a good thing. This of course depends on where the course of the story actually ends and we do not know this.

Anyways, enough rambling on the matter. I respect your opinions :)
Cant wait to see how the story develops from here on
 

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