Quality of scans, typeseting, cleaning and redrawing aside - The two of yours translations word for word identical. Noticed since was fed up with chapter 52 quality and pointing in the comments.Coincidences sure are scary ....anyways ne,t chapter tomorrow, don't worry...it's not another 15 chapters
I agree, if you want to keep it at then keep at it. Since it seems they upload somewhere elss.i hope you keep at it, waiting 4 months for a chapter is nuts
Just wanted to comment about the supporting the author part, it's in part true, but if you don't buy an artist work in USA, then his future work will be less likely to be bought by an USA company and then indirectly reducing the money the author could make. ( most thing aren't all back or all white ).@sorashiki DO NOT let Flame Comics deter you.
They have an awful track record of hoarding chapters on their website, and only uploading once someone else is about to. They're little better than trolls, and, in accordance with MD's rules, they cannot dictate who is allowed to scanslate a title. It is supposed to be MD's way of assuring better quality scanslation, but the tactics of groups like GalaxyDegen and Flame Comics work against that by discouraging other scanslators. And they do that by spamming chapters they've had on their websites for months - sometimes even years! - once they notice someone has or is about to upload chapters.
I will also once again make my statement about profiteering off of unlicensed scanslations.
Basically? DON'T.
To elaborate, ensuring your operation is in no way profiting is a sort of legal fig leaf to cover your ass with. Yes, publishers don't like piracy. But what they like even less is other people making money off of a title for which they have paid the original publisher the licensing fees to sell and distribute said title in their territory.
If you are not making money off of scanslation and a publisher somehow takes note of your activity, then at most you will get a Cease and Desist letter, which is a politely worded (if a bit firm in its language) letter asking you to stop distributing a title they have the rights to. You're not in any real trouble at that point.
More often than not, though, they won't bother much with it because that means paying people to write those C&D letters, and that can add up after a while.
However, outfits like Flame Comics hoard their releases on their website with the intent of making money off the ad revenue generated there. It's idiotic for several reasons.
One. It eventually does attract the unwanted attention of an official publisher. Refer to what I said about what publishers like even less than simple piracy.
Two. Most advertisers such as Google Ad Sense will immediately pull their ads from your site the moment they find out you're hosting pirated content there. And the advertisers that don't care? They're the ones with the most obnoxious ads. The same goes for donation/payment systems such as Patreon, Ko-fi, Paypal, and many more. They will not only ban your account, but also reverse as many payments as possible, leaving you in a very financially compromising situation.
Three. Why oh WHY in gods green acre would you even bother with a website when you have Mangadex doing all the hard work for you? Group pages, commentary threads, and hosting - all right here in one website, and they only ask for donations so they can keep doing what they're doing. The group pages they provide even supports linking to social media and Discord. With all of this, the only possible thing you would need a website for is if you maintain a blog for your group. And even then you can hack one together on WordPress in fifteen minutes. YOU DON'T NEED A WEBSITE.
Lastly, I'll comment about scanslating a title that already has an official translation.
Basically, unless the official translation is from a lawsuit-happy publisher like SquarEnix or NIS America? Don't sweat it. Most publishers outside of Japan aren't going to want to spend the money on legal fees just to stomp out a scans group or two. Unless, of course, they're trying to rake in money through ad revenue or "donations". But in those cases they're a lot more likely to just report the group to the advertisers and payment systems, and then poof! goes the funding.
Further more, I wish people would STOP PERPETUATING THE IDEA THAT THE OFFICIAL TRANSLATIONS SUPPORT THE MANGAKA.
For one thing, when a publisher outside of Japan buys the license to translate, distribute, and sell a titles in their region, it's paid up-front, long before they have a chance to sell anything. Also, the license is for a given amount of time, not a given number of copies to sell.
What this means is that the publisher is not getting royalties per copy sold - that is very, very rare to see. And, as such, the number of copies of a manga sold in the USA has nothing to do with the metrics they track back in Japan.
In other words, you can buy enough copies of Bleach to fill several libraries, and those sales would not be recorded in Japan. Instead, all that money you just spent will all go to Viz Media, and nowhere else.
And, you guessed it, the mangaka does not get a single penny of your hard-earned dollar, and it does nothing to dissuade the Japanese publisher from shitcanning the title when the sales in Japan tank.
TL;DR?
Don't sweat a damn thing. Not the publishers, and not rival scans groups. Keep up the tradition of not-for-profit scans and you should be just fine. And keep encouraging people to buy the original language release of a title, because that will support a mangaka in both finances and metrics.
The translation is pretty good. Thanks for following through with yours despite the Contributor account making another random upload at the same time.Coincidences sure are scary ....anyways ne,t chapter tomorrow, don't worry...it's not another 15 chapters
I rarely read a wall of text. But this was a nice wall to read@sorashiki DO NOT let Flame Comics deter you.
They have an awful track record of hoarding chapters on their website, and only uploading once someone else is about to. They're little better than trolls, and, in accordance with MD's rules, they cannot dictate who is allowed to scanslate a title. It is supposed to be MD's way of assuring better quality scanslation, but the tactics of groups like GalaxyDegen and Flame Comics work against that by discouraging other scanslators. And they do that by spamming chapters they've had on their websites for months - sometimes even years! - once they notice someone has or is about to upload chapters.
I will also once again make my statement about profiteering off of unlicensed scanslations.
Basically? DON'T.
To elaborate, ensuring your operation is in no way profiting is a sort of legal fig leaf to cover your ass with. Yes, publishers don't like piracy. But what they like even less is other people making money off of a title for which they have paid the original publisher the licensing fees to sell and distribute said title in their territory.
If you are not making money off of scanslation and a publisher somehow takes note of your activity, then at most you will get a Cease and Desist letter, which is a politely worded (if a bit firm in its language) letter asking you to stop distributing a title they have the rights to. You're not in any real trouble at that point.
More often than not, though, they won't bother much with it because that means paying people to write those C&D letters, and that can add up after a while.
However, outfits like Flame Comics hoard their releases on their website with the intent of making money off the ad revenue generated there. It's idiotic for several reasons.
One. It eventually does attract the unwanted attention of an official publisher. Refer to what I said about what publishers like even less than simple piracy.
Two. Most advertisers such as Google Ad Sense will immediately pull their ads from your site the moment they find out you're hosting pirated content there. And the advertisers that don't care? They're the ones with the most obnoxious ads. The same goes for donation/payment systems such as Patreon, Ko-fi, Paypal, and many more. They will not only ban your account, but also reverse as many payments as possible, leaving you in a very financially compromising situation.
Three. Why oh WHY in gods green acre would you even bother with a website when you have Mangadex doing all the hard work for you? Group pages, commentary threads, and hosting - all right here in one website, and they only ask for donations so they can keep doing what they're doing. The group pages they provide even supports linking to social media and Discord. With all of this, the only possible thing you would need a website for is if you maintain a blog for your group. And even then you can hack one together on WordPress in fifteen minutes. YOU DON'T NEED A WEBSITE.
Lastly, I'll comment about scanslating a title that already has an official translation.
Basically, unless the official translation is from a lawsuit-happy publisher like SquarEnix or NIS America? Don't sweat it. Most publishers outside of Japan aren't going to want to spend the money on legal fees just to stomp out a scans group or two. Unless, of course, they're trying to rake in money through ad revenue or "donations". But in those cases they're a lot more likely to just report the group to the advertisers and payment systems, and then poof! goes the funding.
Further more, I wish people would STOP PERPETUATING THE IDEA THAT THE OFFICIAL TRANSLATIONS SUPPORT THE MANGAKA.
For one thing, when a publisher outside of Japan buys the license to translate, distribute, and sell a titles in their region, it's paid up-front, long before they have a chance to sell anything. Also, the license is for a given amount of time, not a given number of copies to sell.
What this means is that the publisher is not getting royalties per copy sold - that is very, very rare to see. And, as such, the number of copies of a manga sold in the USA has nothing to do with the metrics they track back in Japan.
In other words, you can buy enough copies of Bleach to fill several libraries, and those sales would not be recorded in Japan. Instead, all that money you just spent will all go to Viz Media, and nowhere else.
And, you guessed it, the mangaka does not get a single penny of your hard-earned dollar, and it does nothing to dissuade the Japanese publisher from shitcanning the title when the sales in Japan tank.
TL;DR?
Don't sweat a damn thing. Not the publishers, and not rival scans groups. Keep up the tradition of not-for-profit scans and you should be just fine. And keep encouraging people to buy the original language release of a title, because that will support a mangaka in both finances and metrics.
so thats why it felt familiar. I actually checked their site to see what was going on a few months ago. Haven't been back since then for the same reasons I ignore other groups' pages. Ads and poor navigation.Last chapter from flame on their site was this chapter released a month ago then 3 months ago, i get that this was not their priority series but that's rather in consistent
I'm not so sure about that. Because, as I mentioned, licensing fees are paid up-front. And until the deal is signed, the translating publisher won't do a thing - it'd be a waste of time and money because if the deal tanks and they already started paying someone to translate the title... yeah.Just wanted to comment about the supporting the author part, it's in part true, but if you don't buy an artist work in USA, then his future work will be less likely to be bought by an USA company and then indirectly reducing the money the author could make. ( most thing aren't all back or all white ).
You are indeed not helping the author directly, but if you aren't buying you are absolutely not helping.