Bakunyuu-tachi ni Tsuihou Saretaga Modore to Iwaretemo, mou oso... Modorimashiyuu! - Vol. 1 Ch. 5

[Nermie01]

Tbf, it's not that he appeared weaker, he was. Because he was buffing the other 3 instead of himself.

Now, about Nina and Lena...that's just the usual "for the sake of plot" imo: you're worried for his well-being, so you send him to the unknonw on his own because your party leader said so? What if he joins a random party and dies during a quest? Did leaving him on his own save him?
Those 2 choose fame over him saying it was for his best, when if they really cared for him, they would have stayed with him, either banishing raid or leaving the party. More so when, iirc, Raid was the last member to join.

About Fana....well, she got scammed. That's crystal clear. She was presented a rank A going for S party, but found a rank C party.
But the moment she realizes Shin is actually the strongest, she starts plotting to legit use him.
Sure, adventuring is a risky job, but a trusty teammate goes longer than riding tailcoats. Even more when she (as of now) didn't bring anything to the party (as for Raid words).
And from chapter 1, we already know what her plan is

So, even if that's what the story is about and adding that Raid is scum with most of the faults, these 3 girls aren't just victims.

That's a massive assumption about Nina and Lena. There is literally no mention that they want fame, and only ever that they were trying to look out for him. They didn't want him directly in harm's way, and again, Raid was making sure that Shin got injured on the regular AND was pressuring Lena with threats to their well-being.

As far as a Fana goes, "using" is such a gotcha term here. Fana herself is an A rank adventurer and a candidate for S rank. Raid assuming that she's useless doesn't mean that she doesn't have the skill to back up her rank, just that she can't boost up 3 dead weight members on her own. She is merely trying to find someone of comparable skill level to party with for S rank, which she now knows that Shin fits the bill. She's pragmatic, looking for ability and skill first. Trust is something that would come later. I mean, would you want to party up with someone that you had to babysit the entire time? I doubt it.

No, these girls are blameless. In fact, I would even lay SOME (very small percent) of the blame on Shin himself for not explaining and experimenting with his skills more. He literally only used them to boost his companions, which made them overconfident in their own powers (and possibly stop training on their own).

 

[FantasyMaster]

That's a massive assumption about Nina and Lena. There is literally no mention that they want fame, and only ever that they were trying to look out for him. They didn't want him directly in harm's way, and again, Raid was making sure that Shin got injured on the regular AND was pressuring Lena with threats to their well-being.

As far as a Fana goes, "using" is such a gotcha term here. Fana herself is an A rank adventurer and a candidate for S rank. Raid assuming that she's useless doesn't mean that she doesn't have the skill to back up her rank, just that she can't boost up 3 dead weight members on her own. She is merely trying to find someone of comparable skill level to party with for S rank, which she now knows that Shin fits the bill. She's pragmatic, looking for ability and skill first. Trust is something that would come later. I mean, would you want to party up with someone that you had to babysit the entire time? I doubt it.

No, these girls are blameless. In fact, I would even lay SOME (very small percent) of the blame on Shin himself for not explaining and experimenting with his skills more. He literally only used them to boost his companions, which made them overconfident in their own powers (and possibly stop training on their own).

It is an assumption, but it not like it can't be legit. Again, they chose to stay with Raid. If they really cared for Shin (and they do, it's clear), they should have left Raid and go with Shin, even if it meant starting from scratch again. At that point,what could a lone Raid, without buff, do? Send his D-C rank goons against an A-rank trio? Or follow them during quests to mess with them...when he runs away from goblins?

And about Fana, again, it's my assumption, yes...but an S-rank prospect Sage that is looking for a party to reach S-rank...
No party, no offensive spells...
If she was a good healer or buffer, her old party would have kept her with them. Ok, this was a stretched assumption, but going for S-rank and not having a party is a tiny bit sus.
Sure she can be pragmatic, and I also wouldn't choose to be a babysitter in an adventuring scenario...but personally I also wouldn't suck the dick of the S-ranker to get carried.

In conclusion, you're free to say they are blameless, as I'm free to imagine and say that things could have gone differently.

 

[BlackAeronaut]

I do very much appreciate how the new girl stepped up and kick the actual trash to the curb. However, seeing as this part came and went so quickly? I wouldn't be surprised to see this ass hole coming back to ruin their day in revenge. Typical narcissistic behavior - whenever a narcissist has their pride wounded, they make it their mission in life to get revenge on you.

As for the girls... Yeah, they were definitely being led on by Raid. I don't really hold them at blame at all. But, at the same time, I do agree with the MC's current take - he doesn't really need them anymore. In fact, it could be easily be construed as them wanting to ride on his coat tails.

Granted, there is no real replacement for having warm bodies on the line-up, and especially so if they have any degree of competence whatsoever. Sure, MC can solo S-level quests, but what about impossible feats that are only spoken of in legends? That's what you need a party for, even if the other party members abilities are dwarfed by their leader's abilities.

That said, I feel they're going about it all wrong. Sure, big mommy milkers are compelling. But if I were the MC, I'd be like, "Is that so? Tempting, but no. How about you three go fix that bad rep you got for failing all those quests, first, and then we'll talk. After all, I'd feel bad if any of you got hurt taking on more than you can handle. </s>"

 

[owlsnowy]

Tbf, it's not that he appeared weaker, he was. Because he was buffing the other 3 instead of himself.

Now, about Nina and Lena...that's just the usual "for the sake of plot" imo: you're worried for his well-being, so you send him to the unknonw on his own because your party leader said so? What if he joins a random party and dies during a quest? Did leaving him on his own save him?
Those 2 choose fame over him saying it was for his best, when if they really cared for him, they would have stayed with him, either banishing raid or leaving the party. More so when, iirc, Raid was the last member to join.

About Fana....well, she got scammed. That's crystal clear. She was presented a rank A going for S party, but found a rank C party.
But the moment she realizes Shin is actually the strongest, she starts plotting to legit use him.
Sure, adventuring is a risky job, but a trusty teammate goes longer than riding tailcoats. Even more when she (as of now) didn't bring anything to the party (as for Raid words).
And from chapter 1, we already know what her plan is

So, even if that's what the story is about and adding that Raid is scum with most of the faults, these 3 girls aren't just victims.

if I read the chapter correctly the mage girl was not just aware of the fact Raid was actively putting him in danger but was further threatened by him that if she tried to stop it or take Shin away and run away then they would hunt them down no matter where they went so her staying i don't think was for the fame and was more under threat.

 

[FantasyMaster]

if I read the chapter correctly the mage girl was not just aware of the fact Raid was actively putting him in danger but was further threatened by him that if she tried to stop it or take Shin away and run away then they would hunt them down no matter where they went so her staying i don't think was for the fame and was more under threat.

Yes, that's true.
In fact, I'm not shifting all the blame on the girls. Being scared is a normal reaction and the author chose to go that way.
But what I'm saying is that a lot of things could also have gone wrong with that. As I said, what if after leaving the party, the "weak" Shin died for some other cause? That could have happened, no?
And even if they didn't realize that they were strong only because of Shin's buffs, leaving Raid alone and going with Shin would give them the number advantage, since Raid's friends are just bar goons. And still, Shin would have taken back the buffs on Raid, reducing him to a weak C-rank.

And I'm not trying to force my point, I'm just trying to point at the story weak points in wanting to state that the girls are just victims.
Besides, it's not even the focus point of the story, because it's all about bakunyuu lol.

 

[owlsnowy]

Yes, that's true.
In fact, I'm not shifting all the blame on the girls. Being scared is a normal reaction and the author chose to go that way.
But what I'm saying is that a lot of things could also have gone wrong with that. As I said, what if after leaving the party, the "weak" Shin died for some other cause? That could have happened, no?
And even if they didn't realize that they were strong only because of Shin's buffs, leaving Raid alone and going with Shin would give them the number advantage, since Raid's friends are just bar goons. And still, Shin would have taken back the buffs on Raid, reducing him to a weak C-rank.

And I'm not trying to force my point, I'm just trying to point at the story weak points in wanting to state that the girls are just victims.
Besides, it's not even the focus point of the story, because it's all about bakunyuu lol.

While I can agree the thief girl has a weak stance my point is that the mage girl was threatened specifically of she went with him that they would be hunted down by Raid and/or people hired by Raid and not necessarily Raid's drunk friends and also that would happen if there was even a wiff of her not being down with the banishment as such discussing things further could lead to that outcome. Also it's not like the mage girl was even aware of who would be sent after them as she seemed unaware of his drinking friends until the sage tells them about them.

 

[jimcook]

Thanks for the translation

 

[reinokid]

Surprised Shin actually told then to go kick rocks, good on him for finally realizing his worth.

Not that it matters much, though, since we all know he's about to get smothered in bakunyuu 6 ways from Sunday. And really, ain't that what we're all here for?

Thanks for the translation!

 

[nanimuwu]

Fana the goat

 

[pousaylova6]

is the girls gonna exploit mc pureness? they're the scumbag here, i don't care if they have big tittied or not

 

[bian231]

this whitewashing is kinda bad... she said it without a sign of regret when they banished him, only the sage cared for him. sound like a red flag for me

 

[monkey123]

In some hentai spin-off Raid will get back at those big boobs girls and will raid them with some fat ugly bastards.

 

[Axccel]

Actually, she was the one that was brought in after him, she had no say in him staying or leaving.

True, but irrelevant. She's one person out of the entire party.

 

[Axccel]

Shin should stay solo-dolo. They kicked him out once and they'll do it again. Take the first rejection, hit the gym, don't return. He got a cutie chasing him already anyways. Don't let the boobs control you!

I half agree. However, they're hot. So, fuck buddies in exchange for his service. Otherwise, why bother? They're not his wives and they already betrayed him and in a severely life-altering way. They simply cannot be trusted any more than an adulteress can.

Or, y'know, man up and accept it as business. They're your friends, but that doesn't mean you're entitled to being in the party. I've been in situations like that growing up (without the manga/romance stuff, of course) and I took it in stride. It's humility.

That said, if I knew or learned that they wanted me to boost their power, I'd be pissed. They'd have to either start putting out or start paying out a lot to keep me around and I'd never trust them.

Actually, scratch the banging, they'd probably make a false accusation with it.

 

[UncleKaos]

Raid's sins:
thinking he "OWNS" the girls in the party.
directing attacks to Shin ON purpose to get ride of him
threating the healer to kill Shin by using monsters.
lying though his teeth.
is being extremely reckless.
is a coward.
trying to pin the blame on the others even it is 1000% his fault.
being a braindead idiot with micro dick energy.

 

[DarkStorm98]

Just looking at page 9, I can kind of rationalize their issues

Lena only uses a small part of her magic because that's all she's used to needing. She got magic enhancements from Shin for so long that she's used to holding back and still getting the mission done. . . And she can't raise her magic much higher on command because she's essentially been working with a limiter on herself to avoid over-doing it

Nina can't hide properly because she's always had speed enhancements from Shin so she didn't have to hide as often, and when she did she could probably just zip behind cover and the enemy would be none the wiser

From this rationale, Lena's probably fine if she can adapt to working without having Shin in the party, but I'm not too sure about Nina

[Page 10]
"You're a Sage but you don't have any ability to attack"

Oh

Oh, Raid is exactly like the party leaders in other stories, lmfao.

[Page 15]
Fana, the real answer is obvious. Leave Raid in the dust to go find Shin, lol.

If you think you need a dedicated melee fighter, find someone else and kick out Raid anyway.

You be the party leader. Obviously not Raid, but it's kind of obvious not to be Shin either. He doesn't have the self esteem to be party leader.

Lena and Nina kind of folded to Raid wanting to kick Shin out, too, even though they didn't really want to, as well.

Fana's the only one here with sense. She should be the leader.

Don't even ask Raid what he wants, just say you're getting Shin back, and if he disagrees, he's out.

[Page 16]
Wow, they are really struggling, lol. Could use a change of clothes.

If they keep failing quests. . . Are they not toning down their exploits at all? Fana herself said they're even operating below the level of a C-Rank party, right? Or at least that Raid specifically is having trouble with C-Rank goblins.

And yet Fana herself was an S-Rank candidate even before joining this party. .

Not sure where Lena and Nina fall, but as a party. . . Maybe they could stand to stop doing A-Rank quests and shift back down to C-Rank quests. . .

Or is Raid too prideful for that?

. . . .

Come to think of it, the girl that tried to recruit Shin earlier was also in a C-Rank party, right? I guess I can understand his issues at present, but he didn't have to turn her down outright. . .

[Page 19]
Of course, Raid wants to play this like it's his idea. . .

Like he's "allowing" Shin back into the party

What a hack

And Shin's face, lol. It's like he sees exactly what it is. White Lightning is failing missions and they came crawling back to him. . . Well, it probably mostly looks like that because of Raid. . I mean, it's also literally what's happening, but Raid specifically makes it look really pathetic.

But at least when they parted ways, Lena gave him words of confidence, Nina was worried about his safety, and Fana seemed to just not be on the same page with cutting him off in the first place.

If I was Shin, I'd at least consider helping those three out. Dunno what I'd do about Raid, probably just give him the cold shoulder, and if he acts up I'll challenge him to a duel. If I'm Shin and I'm doing S-Rank quests as a solo Adventurer, I'd basically be begging for a reason to put Raid in his place, lol.

[Page 27]
Honestly at this point, if you can't have Shin, leave Raid anyway, lol

Though him threatening them, or at least Lena, is also a bit worrying if if it's only the three of them. But again, Fana's nearly an S-Rank adventurer on her own. It's mostly only Raid himself that seems to actually fall down to C-Rank as an individual.

They could probably manage on their own even without Shin if Raid thinks he's got a trick up his sleeve.

[Page 29]
Victory. . . Or at least one Victory in a long "war"

And Fana's even just straight up taking charge. Like I said, get rid of Raid, make Fana the party leader. . . .

Though I may have to re-evaluate Shin's potential to be party leader as the story goes on. . . . . Probably would still end up being Fana in the end, though.

 

[DarkStorm98]

Hurt feelings aside. If i had the ability to do S-rank quests solo then i'd do that in a heartbeat. All the rewards and experience would be mine and mine alone. Why have a party at that point i'd say.

Side note, fuck these women. As if they are any better. God it would be amazing if Shin never got back with them, but we all know it wont happen.

I like the companionship, to be honest. Like, if I were Shin I'd probably have accepted to be in a party with that C-Rank girl from earlier, at least

As for Shin's old party, I've said my piece on them, but I feel like the girls have been pretty open about thinking about Shin's interests as they were removing him.

Fana literally wasn't in the discussion until Shin was being kicked, and it seems like she's led the charge on getting him back

Lena was sort of hyping Shin up that he'd be able to take care of himself.

Nina was openly worried about his safety.

It's literally only Raid who was an issue. Three pretty girls that have been nothing but supportive of me and want me back? I'm folding, lol

Especially after they kicked Raid out. Though someone else did point out that even with their good will, they are also still bringing him back to boost the party. Even if they don't talk about that much, if it's like Reason 5 rather than Reason 1, it's still a reason, and the catalyst of them seeking him out. So. . . That is a bit of a downer on the situation, definitely.

 

[DarkStorm98]

Tbf, it's not that he appeared weaker, he was. Because he was buffing the other 3 instead of himself.

Now, about Nina and Lena...that's just the usual "for the sake of plot" imo: you're worried for his well-being, so you send him to the unknonw on his own because your party leader said so? What if he joins a random party and dies during a quest? Did leaving him on his own save him?
Those 2 choose fame over him saying it was for his best, when if they really cared for him, they would have stayed with him, either banishing raid or leaving the party. More so when, iirc, Raid was the last member to join.

About Fana....well, she got scammed. That's crystal clear. She was presented a rank A going for S party, but found a rank C party.
But the moment she realizes Shin is actually the strongest, she starts plotting to legit use him.
Sure, adventuring is a risky job, but a trusty teammate goes longer than riding tailcoats. Even more when she (as of now) didn't bring anything to the party (as for Raid words).
And from chapter 1, we already know what her plan is

So, even if that's what the story is about and adding that Raid is scum with most of the faults, these 3 girls aren't just victims.

No one ever said Fana brings nothing to the party

Raid specifically says she brings no attack power to the party

Which is what is usually the catalyst for these "Banished from the Party" stories go. The Party Leader banishing a Healer who can't or doesn't attack [And they're usually both male, and there's usually at least two female members of the party. The Party Leader wants at least one of them]

 

[DarkStorm98]

Wait so they chose to banish MC even though they knew that Raid was the problem and not him because checks notes they were scared of him sending people after them (tf?) But now that they realize that they're trash without MC they're not scared of banishing Raid anymore to bring MC back? Oh hell nah brother they're just as bad as the Raid guy and MC is better off without them, the sage is the only good and competent one so I hope he forms a party with her and make the other 2 choose between becoming his sex slaves or piss the fuck off (not gonna happen I know lol fuck this manga)

I can kind of rationalize it

Before, they appeared to all be relatively equal, or at least the other three with MC lagging behind

But now Raid is the only one called out as being C-Rank individually. Nothing's been said specifically about Lena and Nina, and now they have Fana who is explicitly A-Rank going on S-Rank

And they're explicit plan is to get Shin back, and now, only after re-uniting with him they discover that he's S-Rank on his own

And afterwards is when they banish Raid.

All things considered, it kind of makes sense to me. Raid could probably still send others after the girls, but if they keep trying to get Shin back they could almost certainly handle anything Raid could manage to send their way