Snake in the Office

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A bit generic, too wordy for a 4-koma, but i understand it wants to tell a story
 
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volumes two feels like a completely different comic, and I don't like it.
 
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Artist just decided to stop trying and use AI "art" apparently oh well not like it went beyond being anything but a cute premise read the first few chapters and drop it
I'm the artist, and no, I don't use A.I. art. I very much draw the art myself, I do use 3D background assets here and there to make the pages happen faster though. All that I did between the 4koma and current page layouts is I more than doubled the time I spend per page because I like the story I wrote for my comic and felt it deserves the added effort. If I used A.I. art I am sure I could do more than one page a week.
 
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I'm the artist, and no, I don't use A.I. art. I very much draw the art myself, I do use 3D background assets here and there to make the pages happen faster though. All that I did between the 4koma and current page layouts is I more than doubled the time I spend per page because I like the story I wrote for my comic and felt it deserves the added effort. If I used A.I. art I am sure I could do more than one page a week.
Don’t apologize you are doing amazing work
 
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I'm the artist, and no, I don't use A.I. art. I very much draw the art myself, I do use 3D background assets here and there to make the pages happen faster though. All that I did between the 4koma and current page layouts is I more than doubled the time I spend per page because I like the story I wrote for my comic and felt it deserves the added effort. If I used A.I. art I am sure I could do more than one page a week.
Love your stuff so far
very comfy
do please continue, thank
 
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I'm the artist, and no, I don't use A.I. art. I very much draw the art myself, I do use 3D background assets here and there to make the pages happen faster though. All that I did between the 4koma and current page layouts is I more than doubled the time I spend per page because I like the story I wrote for my comic and felt it deserves the added effort. If I used A.I. art I am sure I could do more than one page a week.
Nah, the auther absolutely uses AI, i can't get mangadex to show saved images, but if you look at the bottom left of chapter 27, the guy with the cap's hand is all messed up, and the dragon lady that appears in chapter 27 also keep switching between having 3, 4, and 5 fingers on her hands

Not to mention that the "Art style" is just generic AI anime style, it's kinda errie to look at, its technically "good", but you can feel something is off, bit of a uncanny valley effect

But a lot of effort have been put into making it look consistant, as i actually had to try a bit to find inconsistencies

Just wish the auther had been honest to begin with :(
 
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Nah, the auther absolutely uses AI, i can't get mangadex to show saved images, but if you look at the bottom left of chapter 27, the guy with the cap's hand is all messed up, and the dragon lady that appears in chapter 27 also keep switching between having 3, 4, and 5 fingers on her hands

Not to mention that the "Art style" is just generic AI anime style, it's kinda errie to look at, its technically "good", but you can feel something is off, bit of a uncanny valley effect

But a lot of effort have been put into making it look consistant, as i actually had to try a bit to find inconsistencies

Just wish the auther had been honest to begin with :(
So your proof that I use A.I. is that i don't always manage to draw all 5 fingers in hand visible or sometimes draw a bit clumsy hand in a panel, in every pose, and that my style is "eerie"? Well, here's my counter proof, ground up process of me doing my webcomic. I don't save speed draw of every file because I draw new page every week and it al mostly all the same. But I definitely do draw my comics myself. I am 15 years in the comic industry professional who draws this comic for fun and practice in the "eerie" anime style, and my reference styles are monster musume, Hellsing, Demon Slayer and Konotsuba, not "generic anime".

Also some minor inconsistencies happen to artists too, sometimes I forget things like hair pins, or pattern on shirt, sometimes i draw my characters bangs wrong or hair too long by accident. sometimes I go back to fix the work, sometimes i just don't have the energy left in the day. And if I used A.I. I would definitely pump out more than one page a week. I spend 2-3 days on my pages, honing details, finessing anatomy, planning panel layout and character expressions, and then along comes a self-assertive ass like you and just disregards all that effort and just throws out a stupid claim like my comics are done with A.I. And while your opinion hardly matters in the end, I am giving you proof and chance to see you are wrong. I've seen enough legit artists being bullied for baseless a.i. accusations enough that I feel like it is just a senseless witch hunt these days.
 
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Nah, the auther absolutely uses AI, i can't get mangadex to show saved images, but if you look at the bottom left of chapter 27, the guy with the cap's hand is all messed up, and the dragon lady that appears in chapter 27 also keep switching between having 3, 4, and 5 fingers on her hands

Not to mention that the "Art style" is just generic AI anime style, it's kinda errie to look at, its technically "good", but you can feel something is off, bit of a uncanny valley effect

But a lot of effort have been put into making it look consistant, as i actually had to try a bit to find inconsistencies

Just wish the auther had been honest to begin with :(
I actually mess around regularly with ai, so i can safely say... you are a blind fool. Look at the april fools chapter, that is ai and the author made that one specifically for fools like you tossing those accusations around.

Ai struggles badly with hands, ears, complex expressions, and especially non-human characters.
 
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So your proof that I use A.I. is that i don't always manage to draw all 5 fingers in hand visible or sometimes draw a bit clumsy hand in a panel, in every pose, and that my style is "eerie"? Well, here's my counter proof, ground up process of me doing my webcomic. I don't save speed draw of every file because I draw new page every week and it al mostly all the same. But I definitely do draw my comics myself. I am 15 years in the comic industry professional who draws this comic for fun and practice in the "eerie" anime style, and my reference styles are monster musume, Hellsing, Demon Slayer and Konotsuba, not "generic anime".

Also some minor inconsistencies happen to artists too, sometimes I forget things like hair pins, or pattern on shirt, sometimes i draw my characters bangs wrong or hair too long by accident. sometimes I go back to fix the work, sometimes i just don't have the energy left in the day. And if I used A.I. I would definitely pump out more than one page a week. I spend 2-3 days on my pages, honing details, finessing anatomy, planning panel layout and character expressions, and then along comes a self-assertive ass like you and just disregards all that effort and just throws out a stupid claim like my comics are done with A.I. And while your opinion hardly matters in the end, I am giving you proof and chance to see you are wrong. I've seen enough legit artists being bullied for baseless a.i. accusations enough that I feel like it is just a senseless witch hunt these days.
But its so consistently inconsitent???

Well, i can clearly see you drawing it here, but how can you forget how many fingers the dragon lady have, sometimes 3, sometimes 4??

And the scaling, sometimes the snake lady is so small, sometimes her snake half is the girth of 2 people?

Also the faces, like the guys face, when you draw him from the front, his face is cute, pretty and girly, but when you draw him from the side, he suddely turns into a handsome mahua protagonist

Hmmmm, maybe these things are more common than i think, but i just haven't looked for it before?

But i'm not the first person to accuse you of AI, you artstyle REALLY looks like AI, but its not bad, just erriely AI like

Edit: maybe it's the 3D model thing you do, but you really are just a master at hitting signature AI tell signs
 
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I actually mess around regularly with ai, so i can safely say... you are a blind fool. Look at the april fools chapter, that is ai and the author made that one specifically for fools like you tossing those accusations around.

Ai struggles badly with hands, ears, complex expressions, and especially non-human characters.
Yes, and im seeing clear inconsistencies with hands, ears, faces, and that snake body shifting between small and girthy
 
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But its so consistently inconsitent???

Well, i can clearly see you drawing it here, but how can you forget how many fingers the dragon lady have, sometimes 3, sometimes 4??

And the scaling, sometimes the snake lady is so small, sometimes her snake half is the girth of 2 people?

Also the faces, like the guys face, when you draw him from the front, his face is cute, pretty and girly, but when you draw him from the side, he suddely turns into a handsome mahua protagonist

Hmmmm, maybe these things are more common than i think, but i just haven't looked for it before?

But i'm not the first person to accuse you of AI, you artstyle REALLY looks like AI, but its not bad, just erriely AI like

Edit: maybe it's the 3D model thing you do, but you really are just a master at hitting signature AI tell signs

Also the faces, like the guys face, when you draw him from the front, his face is cute,
I am just not too good at drawing manga style dudes, most of my focus was on cute girls. Most of the time I'm still referencing from other manga my dude faces, and trying to adapt to my own protag. this is a free comic for a reason, I'm simply practicing and experimenting.

I picked up manga around 2018 with a focus of getting consistent in the style. And what comes to snake girl being sometimes thick, sometimes narrow, sometimes short, sometimes long, it's simply sloppiness on my part. And I drew the dragon lady once with 5 fingers, and didn't even notice it because I was, and am so used to drawing human hands, with human number of digits. I have no editor to scour over my art for consistencies, it is just my own overworked ass doing it alone and trying to hit a weekly schedule.
I really don't see the "A.I.ness" in my art that you do, but I also don't use A.I. to any extent so my reference base is limited to what ever I see popping in my twitter timeline. My only A.I. app is the copilot included in Microsoft windows and I can't even get that one to draw me cute anime girls with big tits even if I tried. The fucking thing moralizes me for even mentioning tits.
My "generic" art style likely is due to me using Crunchyroll anime as my reference when I can't find good poses on my mangas.

What comes to my snake girls inconsistency over the time is mostly result of me not having made a character sheet until a month ago. Which I drew up just because I felt like my character was not consistent enough. But hey, it seems no amount of proof is enough for you. I draw traditional art and have drawn comics professionally for 15 years, I have no need for A.I. or interest using it. In fact I hate how it is now 90% of my google search results when I use that to look up references. And I hate how instagram went from being useful resource to slop factory, I hate how deviant art included a.i. and used peoples work to train it without permission. I hate A.I. art and you accusing me of it only dismisses my hard work over the decades of drawing comics and honing my craft.

Anyway, I am tired of arguing my case. You are free to believe what you want of me, I have offered my work in progress, my youtube which is in those links has more of my artwork speed paints in them. I occasionally live stream too, if you want to make sure I don't use A.I. subscribe to my youtube and wait for a live stream, I also livestream me drawing traditionally on paper now and then. If none of that is enough for you to be convinced, then you're welcome to live in that belief. You're not the first person to believe nonsense in the face of overwhelming evidence.

For 15 years I have been able to draw my comics without accusations of A.I. until suddenly it has become this trendy thing to do, accuse artists of using A.I. And I understand, it sucks to see some people to try to clout farm with A.I. and without skill of their own. I respect your desire behind the accusations for human touch in art. I even understand the paranoia, even I feel it sometimes, but I personally am just too old, too tired to give a fuck if people do that anymore. I work for my art. I really do. And that's my only concern, to get good.
And what comes to your theory of me using 3D models as my base to nal the hard angles, it is possible it is what does it, I think A.I. is trained on a lot of 3D rendered stuff as well so it can nail the "look" at multiple angles. It may even be using same base models as clip studio and magicpose do. Or at least what ever model / service it is that you think my art looks like. I don't know much about it, my A.I. knowledge comes from youtubers discussing it.
 
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Yes, and im seeing clear inconsistencies with hands, ears, faces, and that snake body shifting between small and girthy
When i say struggles, it turns it into a fleshy mutant abomination with void eyes, effed up mouths, extra limbs and upwards to 10 fingers on one hand, 3 or more ears, and as for snake bodies specifically, it seperates both halves and places a snake head somewhere.

What you are seeing and "noticing" is indie artist human errors.

You sometimes see these human errors in even professional studio work, just moreso for indies due to not having a team of proofers checking details.
 

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