Warui ga Watashi wa Yuri ja nai - Vol. 8 Ch. 40 - Mukai Saya (1)
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Time to write an essay about Toudou as a character to explain how we got here.
So Toudou has a few main traits that are constantly reinforced throughout the series. One, she is extremely selfish with her need for attention. Two, she is kind and forgiving to those around her and that are kind back. Three, she is very stubborn, only accepting how she sees fit for right and wrong and other peoples character.
Her kindness is shown just throughout the series without much need for examples, as she will go out of her way for her friends. Such as trying to convince Banryuu (Yakuza) to come to school as a favor to Yomotosuke (Prez) or all the work put in for the band. While her forgiveness has some slight complications. Kamisada (Yankee) and Rin (Kouhai) she forgave due to actually getting to know them and figuring them out as people. Saya was much the same in this chapter, as she realizes she was only doing bad things out of necessity than malice. The revenge against her teacher, while somewhat over the top, was clear she didn't actually mean to cause harm. She just wanted to make him slip and laugh at him.
The stubbornness is based on how set in her ways she is. With her belief that she's not into yuri (TITLE DROP), unwilling to accept anyone else's views on someone that go against how she views them with Yanagi (Delinquent), not accepting that ghosts can be real, etc. She'll usually only relent on things if she is set to gain a benefit from it.
Which leads into the selfishness. A large portion of this can be explained in story due to trauma from being neglected by her parents over Arare (Little Sister). The entire premise with getting her teacher to drink a love potion is formed from this selfish need for attention. She expresses that she doesn't actually care about the teacher and more just wanted him to dote and favor her. She was more after the social status that preferential treatment would bring than an actual relationship. I feel this one doesn't need much more explanation than that, as nearly all escalations in the series or convincing that is used on Toudou in the series is through her getting more attention.
Her constant belief that no one could be into her (dismissing Rin or Kamisada's teasing as malice, not thinking Yanagi actually likes her with any of her affection, and not understanding that Kurohime wants to be with her) might also be a small inferiority complex. Her never wanting to try at sports due to believing she's only a disappointment and thinking she's an inadequete partner that no one would want. Though this point is more an inferring from small implications.
Also no idea why she's being so affectionate with Toki (president crew tall one with hair bun). Thinking back, others have rarely ever gone out of there way to help Toudou, so she could be generally affectionate when thankful. Though the date is more just her being oblivious, I recall her doing the same with Rin after Cops & Robbers and not thinking anything of it than just grabbing a bite to eat.
Mainly writing all this to just say. Toudou has not changed much as a person. She's still oblivious to hers and everyone else's feelings, still acts in self interest, and still helps her friends. Not to mention, as sad as it might be, her relationship with Rin is somewhat built on a lie of rushed feelings due to Arare's schemings. I can only hope they don't crash and burn, as Rin and her are adorable. No idea where we'll go from here but I fully welcome Toki and Saya to the harem. Maybe even Oikawa, though, I think they're going for more of a partners in crime dynamic with her.
So Toudou has a few main traits that are constantly reinforced throughout the series. One, she is extremely selfish with her need for attention. Two, she is kind and forgiving to those around her and that are kind back. Three, she is very stubborn, only accepting how she sees fit for right and wrong and other peoples character.
Her kindness is shown just throughout the series without much need for examples, as she will go out of her way for her friends. Such as trying to convince Banryuu (Yakuza) to come to school as a favor to Yomotosuke (Prez) or all the work put in for the band. While her forgiveness has some slight complications. Kamisada (Yankee) and Rin (Kouhai) she forgave due to actually getting to know them and figuring them out as people. Saya was much the same in this chapter, as she realizes she was only doing bad things out of necessity than malice. The revenge against her teacher, while somewhat over the top, was clear she didn't actually mean to cause harm. She just wanted to make him slip and laugh at him.
The stubbornness is based on how set in her ways she is. With her belief that she's not into yuri (TITLE DROP), unwilling to accept anyone else's views on someone that go against how she views them with Yanagi (Delinquent), not accepting that ghosts can be real, etc. She'll usually only relent on things if she is set to gain a benefit from it.
Which leads into the selfishness. A large portion of this can be explained in story due to trauma from being neglected by her parents over Arare (Little Sister). The entire premise with getting her teacher to drink a love potion is formed from this selfish need for attention. She expresses that she doesn't actually care about the teacher and more just wanted him to dote and favor her. She was more after the social status that preferential treatment would bring than an actual relationship. I feel this one doesn't need much more explanation than that, as nearly all escalations in the series or convincing that is used on Toudou in the series is through her getting more attention.
Her constant belief that no one could be into her (dismissing Rin or Kamisada's teasing as malice, not thinking Yanagi actually likes her with any of her affection, and not understanding that Kurohime wants to be with her) might also be a small inferiority complex. Her never wanting to try at sports due to believing she's only a disappointment and thinking she's an inadequete partner that no one would want. Though this point is more an inferring from small implications.
Also no idea why she's being so affectionate with Toki (president crew tall one with hair bun). Thinking back, others have rarely ever gone out of there way to help Toudou, so she could be generally affectionate when thankful. Though the date is more just her being oblivious, I recall her doing the same with Rin after Cops & Robbers and not thinking anything of it than just grabbing a bite to eat.
Mainly writing all this to just say. Toudou has not changed much as a person. She's still oblivious to hers and everyone else's feelings, still acts in self interest, and still helps her friends. Not to mention, as sad as it might be, her relationship with Rin is somewhat built on a lie of rushed feelings due to Arare's schemings. I can only hope they don't crash and burn, as Rin and her are adorable. No idea where we'll go from here but I fully welcome Toki and Saya to the harem. Maybe even Oikawa, though, I think they're going for more of a partners in crime dynamic with her.
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I agree with all of this, except that Toudou's feelings for Rin are based on a lie. After get sister gave her an aphrodisiac, her first thought was Rin, not anyone else. Rin has always given TD attention, even when TD thought it was bullying. Their relationship was mostly built up before the story takes place, and the events so far just allow Toudou to realize how much Rin means to her, even though their relationship started as adversarial. Point being, Toudou will never let go of Rin, even when things inevitably get rough because of her constant unintentional flirting.
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our girl Toudou is out of control, damn rizzer
now she need to rizz a teacher too
now she need to rizz a teacher too
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Sorry the best you can do is joining her harem
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Damn, she really got that rizz in her now, compared to way back in chapter 1!
Thnks for reminding me of this PEAKnew chalenger approches :
dare I say that kuroko from murciélago is even more of a raging lesbian
have you read the latest volumes , namely vol 24 ?
My last read was when they were infiltrating a cult or smth, and her uhh assistant? Civvie sex friend she licks all over? Was held hostage? I dont remember 😔
Wait you mean you're at rose coloured prison ark ? Like the rose cult ? Oh god you're soooo far behind that's like not even a quarter of the whole thing , I guarantee you're missing out on so many good crazy shit , you have to pick it back up, I can feel the finale approaching where I'm at, look here's the link for all the 24 volumes, use ad blockers tho , it's really annoying without it https://mangafire.to/read/murcielagoo.z7zw/en/volume-1
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Meaning I might read it eventually, but I'm too lazy to do it now, so I've bookmarked this post with the intention to maybe read it later.wdym by "
oh ok nice , good choice
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Agreed, I misspoke with it being built on a lie. I more mean the inciting incident for them getting together is the lie. The feelings can be and are there, Toudou's just still working through them since it was a heat of the moment horny brain talk that pushed it further.
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i forgot who this girl is damm, the curse of slow released chapters
This is gonna make me go crazy isn’t it
This is gonna make me go crazy isn’t it
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I'm glad Toudou is capable of hiding her scummy antics with her charm and caring side now. She has learnt a lot of lessons, and the fact that being tactful to people you can use for stuff later on is good was one of them is very cool to see.
Because I'm not letting her little slip of the mental tongue about using them as the muscle for her plans with the drummer go. Toudou Itsumi has changed for the better, but is still the same type of character.
And that's great.
Because I'm not letting her little slip of the mental tongue about using them as the muscle for her plans with the drummer go. Toudou Itsumi has changed for the better, but is still the same type of character.
And that's great.
Although I mostly agree with the analysis, I think you misunderstood a couple of things:
She didn't really so much as forgive Rin, as more like she was under the assumption that Rin was under the influence of the drug at the time, and she thought she had already gotten her revenge. Her realization that Rin was actually trying to motivate her is what gave her the courage to fight during the last stretch of dodgeball competition. If you notice, she never really held Rin responsible, she just held a bit of animosity towards her, but that all went away when they were open with each other about their feelings (no forgiveness necessary).
As for Rin and TD's relationship being built on a lie. I don't know where you got this from. Sure, a series of misunderstanding led Rin to eventually confess her feelings for TD (who at the time thought Rin was under the influence of the love drug). But the moment she realized Rin was never drugged, and those were her real feelings, TD took them to heart and actually mulled over how to respond to said feelings. The chocolates did not influence her decision, those only made her super horny. If you notice, during the phone conversation, TD comes clean, and is very clear about what she feels. She didn't want to rush things with Rin, because she is afraid she'd lose what they had built up to this point. She asked her if it was okay to take things slow, little by little falling in love with each other. And Rin agreed to it. That is when they officially became lovers. Also, the chocolates only made TD yearn for the person she held dearly in her heart, so it makes sense that she would've been thinking of Rin since she was the only person who had confess to her without the use of the love potion.
I agree with you on those points. She is selfish, wants to be the center of attention, wants to be praised. Simply put, she wants people to WANT TO BE LIKE HER. This of course is a consequence of how she grew up and the home life she's been leading up to this point. Parents that for one reason or another neglected her, and only saw her as a problem child when all she wanted was a bit of the love and attention they were granting her sister. She wants to be envied by everyone around her the way she envies her sister.
I don't believe she EVER wanted to convince Banryuu to come back to school though. All the opposite really. The prez used TD's character as a way to get Banryuu to come back to school, but TD herself was always against it. The game of Cops and Robbers was never about Banryuu going back to school, it was all about TD not becoming a slave to Banryuu.
She didn't really so much as forgive Rin, as more like she was under the assumption that Rin was under the influence of the drug at the time, and she thought she had already gotten her revenge. Her realization that Rin was actually trying to motivate her is what gave her the courage to fight during the last stretch of dodgeball competition. If you notice, she never really held Rin responsible, she just held a bit of animosity towards her, but that all went away when they were open with each other about their feelings (no forgiveness necessary).
Her problem was not the fact Yanagi was being blamed of the petty theft, her problem was that nobody did anything to understand WHY she would do that. Knowing how honest Yanagi is, it didn't make logical sense for her to steal like that, and the fact nobody questioned her, rather, they just judged her after the fact is what pissed her off. She doesn't believe Yanagi is a saint, that is not what she was arguing about. She was angry nobody was there for her and she was just cast off by her group of "friends."
Yes, that is correct.
She is also terrified of getting hurt. Rin traumatized her with her training (all those messed up fingers lol). That's the main reason why she doesn't really go for any sport clubs. Even Rin pointed that out the very first time they met in this story (chapter 7). This also explains her uncanny Iruma-like ability to dodge any kind of danger that comes her way. As for being dense towards the affection of others? It depends on the person and the way they approach her. She had no real issues with accepting Rin's and later Yanagi's affection, even if they were not in a real relationship, she is willing AND interested in doing lewd things with girls she likes.
You got this one wrong. Rin was the one that called it "going to out to dinner." TD called it a date, to which Rin quickly corrected her. In fact, and this was right at the end of the Cops & Robbers game, TD told Rin that even if they lost, she had no issue with going out on dates with her, just as long as she invited her (once again, she feels uncomfortable taking that first step at this point, and is relying on another person to "pick her").
I'd say she has changed, as she is A LOT MORE confident in stepping forward and facing anyone that dares get in the way of her current goal. She is not oblivious, she just knows that the girls all have different levels of "normal," so she acts accordingly to whoever is her current companion.
As for Rin and TD's relationship being built on a lie. I don't know where you got this from. Sure, a series of misunderstanding led Rin to eventually confess her feelings for TD (who at the time thought Rin was under the influence of the love drug). But the moment she realized Rin was never drugged, and those were her real feelings, TD took them to heart and actually mulled over how to respond to said feelings. The chocolates did not influence her decision, those only made her super horny. If you notice, during the phone conversation, TD comes clean, and is very clear about what she feels. She didn't want to rush things with Rin, because she is afraid she'd lose what they had built up to this point. She asked her if it was okay to take things slow, little by little falling in love with each other. And Rin agreed to it. That is when they officially became lovers. Also, the chocolates only made TD yearn for the person she held dearly in her heart, so it makes sense that she would've been thinking of Rin since she was the only person who had confess to her without the use of the love potion.
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