Suteishi Yuusha, Maou no Shita de Restart - Vol. 3 Ch. 17
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Magic-ing up a suddenly powerful Gary Stu protagonist, is as bad as Mary Stu'ing a spontaneously powerful antagonist.
It's sloppy writing, by amateur authors, that care more about forcing plot than developing how it got there. Change my view.
It's sloppy writing, by amateur authors, that care more about forcing plot than developing how it got there. Change my view.
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I think it’s too early to decide whether this is bad writing or not. There’s clearly something up with a princess. She’s not a normal human being and though she said she’s not being possessed. I’m not entirely sure if that’s true. There is a secret to her that is the mystery behind this entire series.Magic-ing up a suddenly powerful Gary Stu protagonist, is as bad as Mary Stu'ing a spontaneously powerful antagonist.
It's sloppy writing, by amateur authors, that care more about forcing plot than developing how it got there. Change my view.
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It's an isekai harem with top shelf Booba. It's doing exactly what I expect an isekai harem to do. It's not gonna be Tolkien.Magic-ing up a suddenly powerful Gary Stu protagonist, is as bad as Mary Stu'ing a spontaneously powerful antagonist.
It's sloppy writing, by amateur authors, that care more about forcing plot than developing how it got there. Change my view.
So yeah, I don't really care.
She was planning to betray MC from the start, so she hid her power. There is nothing "spontaneous" about it, she just choose to reveal it now that she enacted her plan.Magic-ing up a suddenly powerful Gary Stu protagonist, is as bad as Mary Stu'ing a spontaneously powerful antagonist.
It's sloppy writing, by amateur authors, that care more about forcing plot than developing how it got there. Change my view.
Calling it sloppy writing when its just a building mystery. Your view is shit, buddy.
Stop reading if all you got is stupid complains.
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I mean yeah, there's enough intrigue to justify fight scenes with decent choreography and huge titted women everywhere. We even have bonus clothes exploding open in fights.It's an isekai harem with top shelf Booba. It's doing exactly what I expect an isekai harem to do. It's not gonna be Tolkien.
So yeah, I don't really care.
It's all in the execution, there's been information withheld from the hero from the start. The entire setup leans towards there being far more in play than the setup. Even if it's not that complex and princess is just big evil the politics of making humans and demons get along is more the central conflict. The princess is just emblematic of the extremes of that.
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Personally, I'm putting my money on this being a similar scenario to Fight Club, where she has a fully realized and cognizant alternate personality that can do things without the other half knowing about them. Hell, even the end-goals are similar in a sense. Though she's a biiiiit more omnicidal than Tyler Durden.
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Oh, it's simple, really. The curse she cast is supposed to be unbreakable. She's already proven herself to be an impossible target to take down. Now, she just wants the elf woman to suffer and despair in her last living moments. And she wants those last living moments to drag on, prolonging both the psychological and physical agony for as long as possible.
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Oi, spoilers for that book everyone's read. The "familiar mana signature" and long term of the con actually had me thinking of a different "is Edward Norton's character crazy" film in Primal Fear, where it's not that 'there was never a possessing power,' but that 'there was never an Anna.'
I assume it's meaningful that she's going out of her way to mention that she's not killing either of her former companions, and I'm sure it'll have some plot justification at some point, but for right now it just feels like all the time she spent practicing her "look how mysterious I'm being" song-and-dance kept her too busy to invent the fantasy laser and table-what-you-strap-James-Bond-to.
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That’s what I’m figuring too but it doesn’t explain why that side of her was so easily able to master this super advanced technique.
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Think of it like Kumoko's (of So I'm a Spider fame) parallel mind skill. There's multiple versions of the same person working on learning the skill and shortening the overall time.
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Let me guess, Princess is being controlled or hypnotised or brainwashed or cooperating with some God or Evil God or is an apostle of said God or Evil God who sees the world balance gets all over the place because Demons want to coexist with other races. Maybe also Princess found (or accidentally involuntarily bestowed) some artifact that makes her overpowered.
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Thanks for the upload.
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Thanks for the chapter, RCH.
At least Anna and Shanaria know how to throw a proper punch. I still can't get over the mangaka believing that throwing a punch--with any significant force--with one's thumb tucked inside the fingers is a good idea.
At least Anna and Shanaria know how to throw a proper punch. I still can't get over the mangaka believing that throwing a punch--with any significant force--with one's thumb tucked inside the fingers is a good idea.
I firmly believe that a villain (note the distinction from a mere antagonist) is to be hated. I've said that previously, and I will say that always. I will, however, make an exception for Anna, because her design is clearly a product of an ulterior motive.
Of all the beautiful (i.e., long hair, large breasts with shapely bodies) women introduced in this story so far, only three of them have soft eyes--tareme: one of them is dead (murdered), one of them has shorter hair than all the others, and one of them is currently the brutally vicious main antagonist of the story. As for the remainder, they all have hard tsurime: even the female lead, whose mother is one of the aforementioned three, inherited her father's sharp eyes instead of her mother's gentle eyes--despite her own kind and personable disposition reflecting that of her mother.
Anna--or rather, her appearance--is clearly meant to be a hate sink. This sort of thing isn't new: it's been going on for well over a decade now, and so you can see the patterns indicating the MO; there are manga in which female villains with appearances that oppose Anna's do much worse than she does, but are treated far more favorably by the writing. The best a girl who looks like Anna can get is a position on the side as a supporting character, with the worst being (brutal) death; not far from this is positioning by the author as a sadistically murderous villain willing to burn the flesh off the people who trust her, possessed or not.
It's the kind of programming that's easy to miss because readers tend to think little of the medium (manga, especially one like this isekai) that serves as its vehicle.
Of all the beautiful (i.e., long hair, large breasts with shapely bodies) women introduced in this story so far, only three of them have soft eyes--tareme: one of them is dead (murdered), one of them has shorter hair than all the others, and one of them is currently the brutally vicious main antagonist of the story. As for the remainder, they all have hard tsurime: even the female lead, whose mother is one of the aforementioned three, inherited her father's sharp eyes instead of her mother's gentle eyes--despite her own kind and personable disposition reflecting that of her mother.
Anna--or rather, her appearance--is clearly meant to be a hate sink. This sort of thing isn't new: it's been going on for well over a decade now, and so you can see the patterns indicating the MO; there are manga in which female villains with appearances that oppose Anna's do much worse than she does, but are treated far more favorably by the writing. The best a girl who looks like Anna can get is a position on the side as a supporting character, with the worst being (brutal) death; not far from this is positioning by the author as a sadistically murderous villain willing to burn the flesh off the people who trust her, possessed or not.
It's the kind of programming that's easy to miss because readers tend to think little of the medium (manga, especially one like this isekai) that serves as its vehicle.
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