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Don't follow your paleontology dreams tbh
Renge to Naruto! - Ch. 33 - I'm Sorry!
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yeah that for sure.... a huge ton pressure on her and backfired on the kid.... its just how it is and especially Japan that drains the soul of all workers.
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You're right of course, all these issues are systematic. Poor mental health is still not a good excuse to treat your family like crap though.
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KILL YOUR MOM
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That... seems like an overreaction.
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Really sorry to hear that. Good luck.
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Fuckin hell man
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How so? Genuinely curious.
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My parents are like this so this chapter was painful to read
For anyone in the same situation as me or the character Naruto, my suggestion is to find good friends or people that you can trust and work towards finding a job and moving out.
Personally I'm going back into school and going into a dorm. I'm cutting all ties and saying good riddance🖕.
For anyone in the same situation as me or the character Naruto, my suggestion is to find good friends or people that you can trust and work towards finding a job and moving out.
Personally I'm going back into school and going into a dorm. I'm cutting all ties and saying good riddance🖕.
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Where's our light in the dark when our boy needs her? Fuck his mom, bro.
Oh God, i knew a few people in the situation of Naruto, but also that feeling of not being good enough, been lost, and alone, i KNOW that feeling, that hurts man, that make me want to give him a hug, well done Author, you moved my feelings.
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Absolutely, I still made it clear in my post that she is a shit parent.
But I don't know anything about her story about how she got pregnant, or what happened to the dad, or if she had any parents of her own. She seems to be raising him entirely alone with zero support system. And is probably massively overworked and depressed and has no one to talk to or help out.
Also, when she's talking down to him, she includes herself every single time. She always says things like "people like us". She obviously hates herself, and sees herself as a failure of a parent, and is just desperately trying to make sure that her son focused on living a stable life so that if he has children they aren't raised in a manner like she was forced to raise him in. Again, she's a terrible parent, and doing everything wrong, but we don't know where her heart is, or her history.
TBH this whole chapter feels like some kind of AITAH style trauma dump by the author, and as is often the case in those types of things, you only get a single limited perspective and then people tend to overreach and overreact to an extreme because they struggle with seeing any perspective except their own or that of the person talking to them directly in that moment.
I was just trying to bring some balance to the conversation and hopefully get some people to understand that sometimes the person you're shitting on and saying is terrible, has things going on in their life that if you had gone through as well you wouldn't have been any better of a person coming out the end than they were. That doesn't make them less terrible, and it doesn't mean the MC has any less right to protect himself from the situation. But it hopefully should tamper some of the bigger overreactions and give people at least a little perspective and sympathy.
I feel like the author's just sort of freestyling here. This volume feels like a solo, there's been a lot of intense characterization done in many different ways that almost feel like they're going 'check out what else I can do.' The librarian being an insane sex monster and giving her a reason to be that way is in the same volume as Renge's moving chapter about how she was stifled by her household and only really came into her own when she left it(with the incredible pile of never sent postcards page) which is in the same volume as this deeply intense portrait of our emotionally abused protagonist.
I don't really know how much noodling the story needs, but there's strong resonance between Renge's story and Naruto's story that make them feel like great fits for each other, so I do think this exploration of Naruto is more related to the core story that the author is trying to tell than the other things we've seen so far.
It's another interesting turn. This manga doesn't have to be much other than a cute gyaru and a self-insertable protagonist, but here we see that he's a particular type of beaten down person who craves the warmth and support that Renge exudes. Watching him still being hurt by his mother's words is a really great touch. He could've been downcast and beaten in that exchange the whole time, but instead he genuinely tries to tell his mom what he's thinking about doing and gets hurt when she dismisses it. He gets hurt when she just casts aside his decision to go to college and makes it feel selfish and wasteful. He's a gentle soul who really doesn't want to cause any trouble for anyone; his heart hasn't been hardened by his mother's constant derision and dismissals. Instead, it bleeds, he's internalized what he's been told and it makes him feel like he'll never succeed.
I don't really know how much noodling the story needs, but there's strong resonance between Renge's story and Naruto's story that make them feel like great fits for each other, so I do think this exploration of Naruto is more related to the core story that the author is trying to tell than the other things we've seen so far.
It's another interesting turn. This manga doesn't have to be much other than a cute gyaru and a self-insertable protagonist, but here we see that he's a particular type of beaten down person who craves the warmth and support that Renge exudes. Watching him still being hurt by his mother's words is a really great touch. He could've been downcast and beaten in that exchange the whole time, but instead he genuinely tries to tell his mom what he's thinking about doing and gets hurt when she dismisses it. He gets hurt when she just casts aside his decision to go to college and makes it feel selfish and wasteful. He's a gentle soul who really doesn't want to cause any trouble for anyone; his heart hasn't been hardened by his mother's constant derision and dismissals. Instead, it bleeds, he's internalized what he's been told and it makes him feel like he'll never succeed.
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We probably will never know, but there could be a million reasons as to why she was afraid to encourage him. Maybe she views him as an extension of herself, or the father, and hates and thinks very little of one or both of them. Perhaps she's in such a bad place because she too, or the father, once dreamed big and now is a failure, and just wants him to live a stable life. So she's trying to convince him to pursue stability over everything else, so he doesn't continue to pass on the generational trauma of trying to raise a child while broke if he has kids. Based on including herself when discouraging him, there is obviously a strong sense of a system being rigged against her and hopelessness.
And sometimes people in that situation feel like false hope is just poison.
You're reaching with this. She does it once, saying that English classes are for families with money and brains. She also then straight up says that he's no good at it, so he shouldn't bother.
Also, the class he wanted to go to was free. The flyer says it's free trial class. She shot it down without even looking.
Your instincts here aren't wrong. You see someone in a vulnerable position and give them the benefit of the doubt. A single mom who's on her son's ass to get a stable job isn't the type of character that tends to be a villain. But she's very much one in this story.
We don't know her whole story, sure. But we do know that she's been controlling and manipulative towards her son his whole life. She berates him, discourages him, constantly dismisses his efforts and his achievements, calls things he tries to do that aren't the things she told him to do selfish and stupid... she's awful.
Remember, we don't know her whole story. Sure, maybe there's things in there that give her a more sympathetic story. But there can just as likely be things in there that make her less.
While it's not a bad instinct to want to pull back, she's so shitty to her son that I'm willing to bet that she's just a fuckin' shitty person all round. They do exist out there. There's a whole fucking lot of them, and they can be poor and miserable and vulnerable and still be absolute shit people who abuse those around them and have made their lives hell due to their own shitty nature.
It's okay to think that people who are shit are shit people.
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Even more so, in Japan, unwed mothers don’t get anywhere near the same social benefits that widowed or divorced single mothers get. Prejudice against them is built into the system.
