Ai no Senbiki ~Mamakatsu Shitara Mama ga Dekita Hanashi~

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It sucks. it's not good erotica, but it's not a good angsty manga either. It just sits awkwardly in the middle.
 
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Why? Many boys dream about having sexual experience with older women (though not long term). Even now i cannot judge it as the same type of crime. It's a biased judgement but almost every boy had a dream about being with an older women during their teenage years. Also the concept of chastity is quite different for boys and girls. A boy experiencing and learning from older women will make him a better lover and thus future with the other girls will be better, it doesn't work the other way around in most cases it has negative effects.

Guys can deal with a log (a girl who doesn't do shit in bed) and will be quite happy to teach her on the other hand girls feel gross when they need to teach their partners how to make love with them. That's one of the reasons why first love doesn't come to fruition, after they decide to teach the guy their feelings dissipate.
Same thing as to why it's not good to show your partner the process of your training (where you show your failures and look lame). (Once upon a time it was quite popular to send your son to see a prostitute, to learn the ropes)

It's harsh to realise this but most of us are nothing more than animals that function on instinct. A women who sees her partners failure eventually loses interest in him (not all of course). A women who admires and sees her partner as a success will try to latch on to him if she sees you as a failure or a try hard she might find you eventually romantically and sexually not pleasing. She might be grateful that you shown your bad side(weakness) but she will lose respect towards you, women and men show and create respect differently. Heard this, seen this and read it too much (experienced it too).

If your woman wants to see your weakness you have to show in a very calculated way i.e. weakness in strength or something like that. Hard to describe it, i remember one phrase clearly though : When i've seen him fail miserably for the first time it felt as if something was destroyed, i've supported him and embraced him but feelings of wanting to be with him as man disappeared. He became something like a brother a friend but definitely not a lover.
This phrase haunts me to this day and sadly i've seen this phrase happen around me quite often, when you learn of this you see the pattern.
My brother this kid was still in middle school and as you can see he didnt think about having sex with her and even if its still a crime. Just because other boy dream of this to happen doesnt mean its not a crime. And all the other stuff u said didnt really have anything to do with this manga so why bother trying to explain ur grooming kink?
 
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My brother this kid was still in middle school and as you can see he didnt think about having sex with her and even if its still a crime. Just because other boy dream of this to happen doesnt mean its not a crime. And all the other stuff u said didnt really have anything to do with this manga so why bother trying to explain ur grooming kink?
Why bother? Because i had sex when i was much younger than MC with someone who is older than me by 6-7 years. Grooming? Not sure, safe choice to experiment? 100% I didn't pose any danger to her and wasn't uninterested.
When i literally didn't understand what sex means. I did start to learn about it from that moment.
By age 10-12 boys already know about sex and have first real fantasies about their "hot" teachers or some hot mature women.
My "accident" jump started that behavior by 6 years and molded my interests, i always prefered women in older age brackets and felt school age girls as incomplete and lacking in shape and form.
But it didn't damage me nor did it make me cry in the corner, it did make me more perverted than my peers because i learned much earlier than them.
By age 14 most "cool" kids had sex already and by 16 some more mature looking guys were actively flirting with women aged 25-30.

No one is saying it isn't criminal but i'm trying to provide more objective reality, it isn't "equal". A lot of boys would be happy to experience it, i was not because my age was indeed too young but by age 12-14? I would jump on a chance.
Is it legal? It is not a concern for that boy, it's an opportunity it's legal and social ramifications for adult.
This manga builds on that fantasy. Even if you grow up you sometimes think how awesome it would be to shag Ms.Peterson. Not freaking sure you are a boy if thoughts like that didn't creep in in your mind.
This manga is a wet dream fantasy for many of us who are already older but remember that wet fantasy we had for our teacher.
We distinguish reality from fantasy, i also do not in any sort or way trying to say laws should be lighter.
There are power and age dynamics in play in reality + A young boy involved in with an adult might create damaging connection, especially if she becomes his cherry popper. It sure damn did a thing on me, that person "cherry popper" is always left in my mind as the "first".
This manga is aimed at men and boys and a girl or a woman likely won't read it and be influenced to be intimate with her student or younger neighborhood child. Women on average prefer men older than them, if they already have those inclinations my POV perspective do shit.
 
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Why bother? Because i had sex when i was much younger than MC with someone who is older than me by 6-7 years. Grooming? Not sure, safe choice to experiment? 100% I didn't pose any danger to her and wasn't uninterested.
When i literally didn't understand what sex means. I did start to learn about it from that moment.
By age 10-12 boys already know about sex and have first real fantasies about their "hot" teachers or some hot mature women.
My "accident" jump started that behavior by 6 years and molded my interests, i always prefered women in older age brackets and felt school age girls as incomplete and lacking in shape and form.
But it didn't damage me nor did it make me cry in the corner, it did make me more perverted than my peers because i learned much earlier than them.
By age 14 most "cool" kids had sex already and by 16 some more mature looking guys were actively flirting with women aged 25-30.

No one is saying it isn't criminal but i'm trying to provide more objective reality, it isn't "equal". A lot of boys would be happy to experience it, i was not because my age was indeed too young but by age 12-14? I would jump on a chance.
Is it legal? It is not a concern for that boy, it's an opportunity it's legal and social ramifications for adult.
This manga builds on that fantasy. Even if you grow up you sometimes think how awesome it would be to shag Ms.Peterson. Not freaking sure you are a boy if thoughts like that didn't creep in in your mind.
This manga is a wet dream fantasy for many of us who are already older but remember that wet fantasy we had for our teacher.
We distinguish reality from fantasy, i also do not in any sort or way trying to say laws should be lighter.
There are power and age dynamics in play in reality + A young boy involved in with an adult might create damaging connection, especially if she becomes his cherry popper. It sure damn did a thing on me, that person "cherry popper" is always left in my mind as the "first".
This manga is aimed at men and boys and a girl or a woman likely won't read it and be influenced to be intimate with her student or younger neighborhood child. Women on average prefer men older than them, if they already have those inclinations my POV perspective do shit.
But what does anything u said have to do with the manga? In the manga we clearly see that he "dated" her so he could have a mom and not to fuck. I mean he even cried when its was about to happen so would u still say it was his fantasy to fuck an older woman? Man idk. And just imagine the genders being switched, would u still defend it like your life depends on it
 
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But what does anything u said have to do with the manga? In the manga we clearly see that he "dated" her so he could have a mom and not to fuck. I mean he even cried when its was about to happen so would u still say it was his fantasy to fuck an older woman? Man idk. And just imagine the genders being switched, would u still defend it like your life depends on it
That was the whole point of my message. I didn't read this manga beside the first chapter (i think) waiting for more chapters to read a whole chunk.
My messaging was mostly to give clarity that most boys during or pre-puberty wake up to sexual interest. If his story though is mostly about lacking female love but not being completely against female charms.
In more realistic setting i doubt a boy would refuse advances and likely even use this as a point of pride and a bragging point.
In mangas we must have at least one party to be against it or else publisher or public will lynch this work.
There are a few works like that and all have different directions the most tame one being: While author teases with some romantic tension they become something like friends and some pages showing future where they are like friends or relatives. Some works who aren't afraid of SJW lynching and/or potential bashing show that after +10 years for example they are finally dating though rarer occasion than the 1st one. And the most crazy one is the one showing what happens in reality in similar situations but usually they are dropped by the publisher after reading their manuscript.
My personal situation might have created a certain fetish towards women who are older than me BUT i'm already at the over 30 year mark and my interests mostly stayed stagnant but i believe that "experience" did damage me but in a way that i didn't look at girls my age with that much lust like i did for women who were older than me.
I also decided to write my initial post and reply to yours to give clarity that we cannot use that logic "If we reverse the genders" It's simply not the same. We are different, our bodies, thinking and hormones are different. A girl saying that a teacher is being romantic or intimate with her might become a point where boys will be grossed out and other girls will bully her or ghost her be it due to jealousy or disgust. In boys situation this could give respect or admiration and of course jealousy (basically a jealous boy or girl who is interested in him would report this)

That's why i think feminism is toxic, mentality like if genders were reversed is a good thinking exercise in gender neutral settings but some things are gender different. Salary, admission to university, promotion and etc being looked from gender neutral lense i.e. if the gender were reversed is valid and sound logic. Sexuality is not, it requires a more scalpel like looking at the situation.
Even courts give MUCH lighter sentences to female pedo offenders than to males, gives you a clear understanding that they know and understand the difference.
Also FYI, at least 30-40 years ago it wasn't uncommon for father to employ "escorts" for their sons (aged between 14 and 17) to prepare them and to be better at that with their real first girlfriends, due to known phenomena of boys being very stressed during their first time with inability to get up or shooting quick which might ruin their first relationship from the start.

We are not the same and won't be ever unless geneticists will make us androgenes with both sexual organs and abilities to reproduce.


EDIT: I understand if you feel angry about this, we are sold about the idea of equality while equality is just a fake product, some people try to fight this, especially young or bitter to correct this lie and make it a reality. But i think the most healthy way is to just accept it, there is difference. What you can do is just keep a more objective view on this and hold the borders to not let the scales tip to one side too much. I don't know you or anything about you but i was angry at many "realities" about our world, how many talking heads and officials state one thing while reality is different and cannot be changed or can be masked but never truly shifted. When i was younger i tried to fight it in my own way and with my own actions but now looking back? Useless endeavor which created more enemies for me without any benefit to me or society.
 
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That was the whole point of my message. I didn't read this manga beside the first chapter (i think) waiting for more chapters to read a whole chunk.
My messaging was mostly to give clarity that most boys during or pre-puberty wake up to sexual interest. If his story though is mostly about lacking female love but not being completely against female charms.
In more realistic setting i doubt a boy would refuse advances and likely even use this as a point of pride and a bragging point.
In mangas we must have at least one party to be against it or else publisher or public will lynch this work.
There are a few works like that and all have different directions the most tame one being: While author teases with some romantic tension they become something like friends and some pages showing future where they are like friends or relatives. Some works who aren't afraid of SJW lynching and/or potential bashing show that after +10 years for example they are finally dating though rarer occasion than the 1st one. And the most crazy one is the one showing what happens in reality in similar situations but usually they are dropped by the publisher after reading their manuscript.
My personal situation might have created a certain fetish towards women who are older than me BUT i'm already at the over 30 year mark and my interests mostly stayed stagnant but i believe that "experience" did damage me but in a way that i didn't look at girls my age with that much lust like i did for women who were older than me.
I also decided to write my initial post and reply to yours to give clarity that we cannot use that logic "If we reverse the genders" It's simply not the same. We are different, our bodies, thinking and hormones are different. A girl saying that a teacher is being romantic or intimate with her might become a point where boys will be grossed out and other girls will bully her or ghost her be it due to jealousy or disgust. In boys situation this could give respect or admiration and of course jealousy (basically a jealous boy or girl who is interested in him would report this)

That's why i think feminism is toxic, mentality like if genders were reversed is a good thinking exercise in gender neutral settings but some things are gender different. Salary, admission to university, promotion and etc being looked from gender neutral lense i.e. if the gender were reversed is valid and sound logic. Sexuality is not, it requires a more scalpel like looking at the situation.
Even courts give MUCH lighter sentences to female pedo offenders than to males, gives you a clear understanding that they know and understand the difference.
Also FYI, at least 30-40 years ago it wasn't uncommon for father to employ "escorts" for their sons (aged between 14 and 17) to prepare them and to be better at that with their real first girlfriends, due to known phenomena of boys being very stressed during their first time with inability to get up or shooting quick which might ruin their first relationship from the start.

We are not the same and won't be ever unless geneticists will make us androgenes with both sexual organs and abilities to reproduce.


EDIT: I understand if you feel angry about this, we are sold about the idea of equality while equality is just a fake product, some people try to fight this, especially young or bitter to correct this lie and make it a reality. But i think the most healthy way is to just accept it, there is difference. What you can do is just keep a more objective view on this and hold the borders to not let the scales tip to one side too much. I don't know you or anything about you but i was angry at many "realities" about our world, how many talking heads and officials state one thing while reality is different and cannot be changed or can be masked but never truly shifted. When i was younger i tried to fight it in my own way and with my own actions but now looking back? Useless endeavor which created more enemies for me without any benefit to me or society.
I aint reading all that
 
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I aint reading all that
That just tells me that you can spout something but not engage when it's uncomfortable. It's part of intellectual discourse, to expect a lot of information.
But i'm thankful for your honesty which is better than most. Kudos to you.
 
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That just tells me that you can spout something but not engage when it's uncomfortable. It's part of intellectual discourse, to expect a lot of information.
But i'm thankful for your honesty which is better than most. Kudos to you.
No it being uncomfortable isnt the reason. My adhd tiktok brain is just to fucked up to real such a long text. But thank u for your kind words and sometimes we just have to agree to disagree. I wish u the best my brothef
 
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No it being uncomfortable isnt the reason. My adhd tiktok brain is just to fucked up to real such a long text. But thank u for your kind words and sometimes we just have to agree to disagree. I wish u the best my brothef
Best wishes to you to, sorry for the assumption. And i do take blame for writing too much, i just can't stop writing when i start. The urge to clarify the whole perspective is too much (+ avoidance of misunderstanding, a phobia of sorts).
 
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Best wishes to you to, sorry for the assumption. And i do take blame for writing too much, i just can't stop writing when i start. The urge to clarify the whole perspective is too much (+ avoidance of misunderstanding, a phobia of sorts).
I feel you. When I talk I cant be stopped espacially if I think I'm wright so no worries
 

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