Girl Meets Rock! - Ch. 66

[MangaDex]

 

[Resound]

?????

 

[SuperOniichan]

Is there some unwritten law that every work about the counter-culture community must have an edgy teen or young adult female character with the image of a punk or goth girl tired of "this shit"?

 

[rabidfish]

real shit. There is a cost to "doing what you want". There is also a cost to "keeping up with expectations". Life is pain.

 

[kuma]

Is there some unwritten law that every work about the counter-culture community must have an edgy teen or young adult female character with the image of a punk or goth girl tired of "this shit"?

rock punk counter culture generally attract people like that, even IRL. which originated which? it's egg vs chicken debate. personally i believe they co-evolve to attract each other.

 

[SuperOniichan]

rock punk counter culture generally attract people like that, even IRL. which originated which? it's egg vs chicken debate. personally i believe they co-evolve to attract each other.

You don't need to tell me about rock culture, I've been around it since the late 00s, lmao. And I understand why it can exist in principle. But such characters seem to have long become an obligatory cliche in the depiction of such places.

 

[kuma]

You don't need to tell me about rock culture, I've been around it since the late 00s, lmao. And I understand why it can exist in principle. But such characters seem to have long become an obligatory cliche in the depiction of such places.

i mean, it also realistic. cliche exist for reasons.

 

[SuperOniichan]

i mean, it also realistic. cliche exist for reasons.

Does this by default justify abusing them to the point where you can play a drinking game describing them?

 

[kuma]

Does this by default justify abusing them to the point where you can play a drinking game describing them?

it would be unrealistic otherwise.

 

[SuperOniichan]

it would be unrealistic otherwise.

With this logic, any cliché, especially the most obvious ones, is realism and complaining about them is a denial of reality.

 

[NerimaShinjuku]

For being such a little dickhead, Megane-kun should have lost a few more teeth

 

[fight2live]

yeah i would stop being friend with glasses boy after that

 

[Valle_reading_manga]

I don't see this ending well at all. Didn't Koki say his brother had been missing for a while in an earlier chapter?

 

[kuma]

With this logic, any cliché, especially the most obvious ones, is realism and complaining about them is a denial of reality.

for less fantastical one, yeah. make me remember this one case.

https://www.npr.org/2019/03/10/7020...ters-look-alike-by-mistaking-photo-as-himself

 

[SuperOniichan]

for less fantastical one, yeah. make me remember this one case.

https://www.npr.org/2019/03/10/7020...ters-look-alike-by-mistaking-photo-as-himself

Okay, now apply that argument to offensive and problematic stereotypes that are popular in the media and think about how that looks.

 

[Dennis-aka-Denji]

i mean, it also realistic. cliche exist for reasons.

Clichés in writing exist because it takes effort and talent to overcome them, and most authors can't do that. I can't for the life of me understand why you would praise that.

 

[kuma]

Okay, now apply that argument to offensive and problematic stereotypes that are popular in the media and think about how that looks.

there is nothing offensive youth getting lost in their rebellious phase. it's not even stereotype. literally just single character out of dozens. if all character around those very stereotype, THEN we can talk about such a thing.

Clichés in writing exist because it takes effort and talent to overcome them, and most authors can't do that. I can't for the life of me understand why you would praise that.

never say it's praise. it's just how it is in real life. it's neutral statement. however it is bad if you suddenly remove those very realistic scenario. pretend it's all sunshine and rainbow? is that what you want? really?

 

[SuperOniichan]

there is nothing offensive youth getting lost in their rebellious phase. it's not even stereotype. literally just single character out of dozens. if all character around those very stereotype, THEN we can talk about such a thing.

never say it's praise. it's just how it is in real life. it's neutral statement. however it is bad if you suddenly remove those very realistic scenario. pretend it's all sunshine and rainbow? is that what you want? really?

Don't manipulate my words. You know perfectly well what I meant by offensive stereotypes.

 

[kuma]

Don't manipulate my words. You know perfectly well what I meant by offensive stereotypes.

what offensive? guy getting depressed because can't success and crushed by expectation and had to use anti depressant? this is very common. also not offensive. it's not offensive nor wrong being depressed.

 

[SuperOniichan]

what offensive? guy getting depressed because can't success and crushed by expectation and had to use anti depressant? this is very common. also not offensive. it's not offensive nor wrong being depressed.

Dude, are you even reading what I write? I gave you an example of problematic stereotypes to show why I think your justification of stereotypes is harmful. You accused me of calling the stereotype in question problematic, even though you knew perfectly well why I brought up problematic stereotypes. What are you even talking about?