Tenseisaki ga Shoujo Manga no Shirobuta Reijou datta reBoooot! - Vol. 2 Ch. 7

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Her family is actually just the worst. The only good person in her family apart from her is her grandfather, even her cousin is fuckin weird and I don't like him very much.
 
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i honestly dont buy soap not being a thing in the medieval world, especially in royalty.
 
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Mirald, my god, even if the person is shorter than you don't, don't hunch over and smile like that. With your eyebags added to the mix, you just end up looking like a blonde L (from Deathnote) and that is probably the least seductive detective I know (besides the literal child-form of Detective Conan).

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Bastard Uncle, Brother is a bit heartless, but at least he's not stabbing Britney in the back..... he is just waving a knife in front of her face which is not great but better than the rest of the family besides Grandpa


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The poor horse, I hope it's a larger and stronger horse cause otherwise I see back problems and injuries in its future.

i honestly dont buy soap not being a thing in the medieval world, especially in royalty.
You are absolutely right.

(Feel free to fact check me, I didn't pay attention to the Lecturer at the Workshop cause different language)

Before the "modern" soap there were a lot of predecessors and alternative cleaning methods , it mostly depending on local, available materials, and what the soap would be used for (Skin vs Laundry). I think people just tend to think that there wasn't really soap cause of all the plague and dying early stuff when that was more of an effect of culture and what that society views as cleanliness (Water Rinse vs Soap vs Changing clothes), but the main "Soap" (Animal Fat and Plant Ash mixed together sometimes with herbs) has been around for a very long time before being modernised to be more chemical based than Fat and Ash based.

Soap /Cleaning Alternatives in History (Not all of them are listed)
-Mixture of Animal Fat, Water, and Herbs
-Mixture of Animal Fat & Olive Oil
-Water & Vinegar
-Wood Ash (which when soaked in water, the solution became Lye)
-Soap Berries
-Stale Urine
-Rice Bran / Rice Water
-Pumice (sand-form)
-Sand
 
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a win is a win

btw the thing with families doing shit like this is very much real
people would do ANYTHING for profit
 
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page 9

Mirald, my god, even if the person is shorter than you don't, don't hunch over and smile like that. With your eyebags added to the mix, you just end up looking like a blonde L (from Deathnote) and that is probably the least seductive detective I know (besides the literal child-form of Detective Conan).

page 15

Bastard Uncle, Brother is a bit heartless, but at least he's not stabbing Britney in the back..... he is just waving a knife in front of her face which is not great but better than the rest of the family besides Grandpa


page 17

The poor horse, I hope it's a larger and stronger horse cause otherwise I see back problems and injuries in its future.


You are absolutely right.

(Feel free to fact check me, I didn't pay attention to the Lecturer at the Workshop cause different language)

Before the "modern" soap there were a lot of predecessors and alternative cleaning methods , it mostly depending on local, available materials, and what the soap would be used for (Skin vs Laundry). I think people just tend to think that there wasn't really soap cause of all the plague and dying early stuff when that was more of an effect of culture and what that society views as cleanliness (Water Rinse vs Soap vs Changing clothes), but the main "Soap" (Animal Fat and Plant Ash mixed together sometimes with herbs) has been around for a very long time before being modernised to be more chemical based than Fat and Ash based.

Soap /Cleaning Alternatives in History (Not all of them are listed)
-Mixture of Animal Fat, Water, and Herbs
-Mixture of Animal Fat & Olive Oil
-Water & Vinegar
-Wood Ash (which when soaked in water, the solution became Lye)
-Soap Berries
-Stale Urine
-Rice Bran / Rice Water
-Pumice (sand-form)
-Sand
While many of these are true, the vast majority of accounts both written and taken from persons would indicate that bathing products in general were a luxury that only the rich could afford; this is undermined, however, with accounts and records of the rich doing almost anything that they could to circumvent the need to wash at all.

Perfumes, powdered makeup, clothing specifically made to clean up any messes they might make and be thrown away or "washed" with those soap predecessors... It gets really disgusting and messy the further back you look. And we're talking European history for the most part.
 
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Mirald, my god, even if the person is shorter than you don't, don't hunch over and smile like that. With your eyebags added to the mix, you just end up looking like a blonde L (from Deathnote) and that is probably the least seductive detective I know (besides the literal child-form of Detective Conan).

page 15

Bastard Uncle, Brother is a bit heartless, but at least he's not stabbing Britney in the back..... he is just waving a knife in front of her face which is not great but better than the rest of the family besides Grandpa


page 17

The poor horse, I hope it's a larger and stronger horse cause otherwise I see back problems and injuries in its future.


You are absolutely right.

(Feel free to fact check me, I didn't pay attention to the Lecturer at the Workshop cause different language)

Before the "modern" soap there were a lot of predecessors and alternative cleaning methods , it mostly depending on local, available materials, and what the soap would be used for (Skin vs Laundry). I think people just tend to think that there wasn't really soap cause of all the plague and dying early stuff when that was more of an effect of culture and what that society views as cleanliness (Water Rinse vs Soap vs Changing clothes), but the main "Soap" (Animal Fat and Plant Ash mixed together sometimes with herbs) has been around for a very long time before being modernised to be more chemical based than Fat and Ash based.

Soap /Cleaning Alternatives in History (Not all of them are listed)
-Mixture of Animal Fat, Water, and Herbs
-Mixture of Animal Fat & Olive Oil
-Water & Vinegar
-Wood Ash (which when soaked in water, the solution became Lye)
-Soap Berries
-Stale Urine
-Rice Bran / Rice Water
-Pumice (sand-form)
-Sand
The whole trope is a product of the fact that soap is a relatively recent arrival in Japan, specifically, leading to the popular misimpression that it is a modern product. Japanese didn't begin using it until during the Meiji era. Soap probably wasn't entirely unknown, but it was an unusual and foreign thing. Before modernization, Japanese used a couple of the alternatives you note (Scrubbing with rice bran or sand, followed by a good rinse and soak.) So, writers make the mistake of assuming that other cultures also didn't have soap until modernization.

In the world at large, soap in one form or another predates history. It was already part of daily life in Sumeria, home of the first written language, and it was used by the Egyptians as well. But part of what helps support the Japanese mis-impression that it is a modern innovation is that Romans and Greeks did not use it on themselves (they did have detergents for other uses, like housecleaning and laundry.) For their own bodies, they preferred scrubbing in oil followed by scraping with a curved wooden stick, a common ancient Mediterranean custom.

In fact, the Romans seem to have seen soap as a barbaric thing, since the various Germanic peoples used it and the Celtic peoples may have, as well. Part of the reason we inherited from the Romans the false idea that the German and Celtic tribes were dirty and unkempt is that, to the Romans, the 'barbarians' didn't use 'proper hygiene' (oil and scraping). It had nothing to do with how they actually appeared or how clean they actually were.

In fact, the irony is that this false idea was extended in the Medieval period to the Norse (Vikings), despite the fact that they seem to have been the most diligent bathers in Europe at the time, bathing at least once a week as opposed to the more typical European's once a month or less.
 

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