Onna Kajishi wa Ohitoyoshi Guild ni Hirowaremashita ~Shintenchi de Ganbaru Kajishi Seikatsu~ - Vol. 1 Ch. 3

[MangaDex]

 

[Wolvenworks]

She looks better with the ponytail. Also huzzah for blacksmith girls. Y’all are awesome.

 

[Reina4444]

personally would like her to have more muscles, but i guess being worn out at the start doesnt do well for fitness.
maybe adding a blacksmith apron to her outfit at some point could be nice too.
otherwise she might get some burnholes...
concept-wise: yes, more women with rough hands and crafting skills please.

 

[ARealCoolGuy]

I'm kind of annoyed with her mopey attitude. Don't get me wrong, it'd be normal for the average person, but she was someone who went through hardships young, and built herself up to be at the very top of her field! I get it if she felt insecure about being a woman (given what the hero said), or if she was frustrated by losing everything she had built up, but she should be made of sterner stuff that what's been shown of her so far - given her life up to this point.

Instead, we seem to have a very girly maiden, who just happens to be a blacksmith, and who seems to take everything to heart and falls into depression easy. How did she get as far as she did, given the type of sullen person she is?

Perhaps I just want a tough as steel Tom-girl Blacksmith though!

 

[mmvsbb]

Title card is for the wrong manga.

 

[pandatime]

Something funny about Lilliana joining Dooga in the been dissapointed in Glaive letting rare metal waste away like a decorstion lmao. Depression be damned at heart shes blacksmith so Glaive wasting it just makes her

 

[Wyrm]

I get it if she felt insecure about being a woman (given what the hero said), or if she was frustrated by losing everything she had built up, but she should be made of sterner stuff that what's been shown of her so far - given her life up to this point.

To be fair, this problem has nothing to do with her being a girl.
There are many MCs in manga that are both hyper-competent and saddled with a crippling inferiority complex.
So many it's getting tiresome.

"I'm just an average [insert random job here]."
"I can't possibly measure up to real professionals."
"I'm so useless nobody will welcome me anywhere."

Reading about these characters growing more confident and making a name for themselves is fine once in a while, but instead it's so common it ruins the concept.

 

[sanglyon]

p32: She's a guest, not a guess.

 

[ARealCoolGuy]

There are many MCs in manga that are both hyper-competent and saddled with a crippling inferiority complex.
So many it's getting tiresome.

"I'm just an average [insert random job here]."
"I can't possibly measure up to real professionals."
"I'm so useless nobody will welcome me anywhere."

Oh sure, but it just seems particularly odd for this MC. She's already made her way to the top, by her own skill, and struggled through her harsh circumstances. So why is she doubting her smithing abilities now? And given those prior experiences, she should be able to handle a setback or two with grace.
So to me, it really does seem like she's being very melodramatic over being called a 'dirty woman who smells of iron' by the hero.
She should be tough as iron.

Though you're totally right about the overdone overly humble MC. I swear, japan has a strong aversion to actually seeing characters become skilled and grow - they're either gifted from the onset, or given all their abilities from some dues ex machina, no growth or hard work required.

I've heard it's because of Japan's work culture, and that people don't want to see others actually working hard, and one something light, but I'm not sure, because most of these characters are 'working', they're just not growing.

 

[PsyLynx]

Guess they get to test the blade's sharpness on a Dragon. How many cuts will it take? One? Five? Place your bets!

 

[Wyrm]

Oh sure, but it just seems particularly odd for this MC. She's already made her way to the top, by her own skill, and struggled through her harsh circumstances. So why is she doubting her smithing abilities now? And given those prior experiences, she should be able to handle a setback or two with grace.

The part you're missing is that, to her knowledge, she didn't "make it to the top".

The common background for these characters is generally similar: although they are successful in their field of work, they lack a proper reference to other professionals of the same field so they can't evaluate their own work objectively.

Pretty often, and it seems this is the case here, this is due to isolation. Intentionally or not, they developed their skills with little to no contact with society in general and their peers in particular. Either they were just talented enough to learn on their own, or they had teacher(s) who didn't praise them enough, so they don't realize that their results are beyond the ability of the average worker. In her case here, this isolation is likely due to her "fallen noble" status and her reliance on the "hero".
Add a layer of gaslighting from an ignorant employer (the so-called "hero" here) and you get someone who worked and improved for a long time without growing self-confidence like experts usually do.

After all, they know that effort alone doesn't always bring results and they believe that their efforts barely made them average, if that much. She knows that she did good enough work that the jerk let her maintain his precious holy sword, but she believed, like he himself did, that this was normal smithing. That she was easily replaceable.

As for "handling a setback with grace", this only comes when one has the confidence to make a comeback. As just stated, she never developed this trait, so the setback is a hard blow to her. Sure, she did impressive physical work (though her build doesn't really show it), but her mind didn't develop as much in comparison.

 

[kunyka]

STOP HATE DRAGONS RIGHT DAMN NOW.

 

[Loliconi]

Oh sure, but it just seems particularly odd for this MC. She's already made her way to the top, by her own skill, and struggled through her harsh circumstances. So why is she doubting her smithing abilities now? And given those prior experiences, she should be able to handle a setback or two with grace.
So to me, it really does seem like she's being very melodramatic over being called a 'dirty woman who smells of iron' by the hero.
She should be tough as iron.

Though you're totally right about the overdone overly humble MC. I swear, japan has a strong aversion to actually seeing characters become skilled and grow - they're either gifted from the onset, or given all their abilities from some dues ex machina, no growth or hard work required.

I've heard it's because of Japan's work culture, and that people don't want to see others actually working hard, and one something light, but I'm not sure, because most of these characters are 'working', they're just not growing.

this + your prior comment. I actually liked this series quite a lot until ~ch9/10 came around. You are 100% correct in every regard and most of it also becomes evident around that aforementioned mark.

I clearly won't spoil anything but just as was established already and perfectly put by you, she is a weak naive clueless about the world damsel that only is strong and reliable when actually in a blacksmith's workshop.
Then also add that she is the most annoying bog standard MC ever when her character supposedly went through and develop a ton before the start- insanely oblivious and inept (to an unfair degree) at romance even after everything with the hero.
Spineless and prone to giving up after her super harsh "she fought so hard and against all odds to get there!" backstory.
Pretty much a cute doll to look at and get manhandled with no actual own will that she acts upon when smithing isn't involved in any capacity (this starts being a major problem from ch10 and until the most recent one).

Again, this series as a whole is enjoyable but so much good stuff just wasn't built upon any further or just completely dropped.

 

[ARealCoolGuy]

The part you're missing is that, to her knowledge, she didn't "make it to the top".

I'll disagree with you here, because SHE WORKED IN THE CASTLE FOR THE ROYAL FAMILY, I don't think they could reasonably write her in a way to misunderstand that as being a highly regarded position. Add to this that she was in charge of the holy sword, likely the kingdom's prized possession - used by the hero of the kingdom...
Well, I just can't accept that she couldn't possibly have any idea of her abilities and her position because of them.
Keep in mind she wasn't some sheltered flower - she earned that position through her work.

they lack a proper reference to other professionals of the same field so they can't evaluate their own work objectively.

This is somewhat possible, but we were shown her working under the tutelage of other blacksmiths, so surely she must have some idea of others' abilities and her standing against them?

I don't disagree that your interpretation of what's going on with the MC may be correct, but if it is true, it's kinda dumb - as well as cliche, as you pointed out earlier.
They've written a character who SHOULD be confident, who SHOULD be proud, who SHOULD get back on her feet by herself, instead we have a weepy maiden who needs her knight in shining armour to save her... who just happens to be a world class blacksmith at a young age, despite being a ignored orphan, through sheer grit and hard work... lol.

 

[Wyrm]

I don't disagree that your interpretation of what's going on with the MC may be correct, but if it is true, it's kinda dumb - as well as cliche, as you pointed out earlier.
They've written a character who SHOULD be confident, who SHOULD be proud, who SHOULD get back on her feet by herself, instead we have a weepy maiden who needs her knight in shining armour to save her... who just happens to be a world class blacksmith at a young age, despite being a ignored orphan, through sheer grit and hard work... lol.

Ah, I do agree.
By all means, she should be confident in her work at least. The author went to insane lengths to prevent that, but she should be a more confident character. This is simply not the story they wanted to write, so they kinda forced her self-deprecation, making it a less interesting one than what I think it could have been.

 

[Agoengss]

Time to kiri-sute gomen on that dragon.

 

[grrman]

Neat. Thanks for picking this up! I completely had forgotten about it

 

[lesseffective]

personally would like her to have more muscles, but i guess being worn out at the start doesnt do well for fitness.
maybe adding a blacksmith apron to her outfit at some point could be nice too.
otherwise she might get some burnholes...
concept-wise: yes, more women with rough hands and crafting skills please.

Muscles....

Guess they get to test the blade's sharpness on a Dragon. How many cuts will it take? One? Five? Place your bets!

Let's ask Mr. Owl...

 

[luna367]

FeMC went into the zone... what was linear eye glow..

 

[Darris]

I'll disagree with you here, because SHE WORKED IN THE CASTLE FOR THE ROYAL FAMILY, I don't think they could reasonably write her in a way to misunderstand that as being a highly regarded position. Add to this that she was in charge of the holy sword, likely the kingdom's prized possession - used by the hero of the kingdom...
Well, I just can't accept that she couldn't possibly have any idea of her abilities and her position because of them.
Keep in mind she wasn't some sheltered flower - she earned that position through her work.


This is somewhat possible, but we were shown her working under the tutelage of other blacksmiths, so surely she must have some idea of others' abilities and her standing against them?

I don't disagree that your interpretation of what's going on with the MC may be correct, but if it is true, it's kinda dumb - as well as cliche, as you pointed out earlier.
They've written a character who SHOULD be confident, who SHOULD be proud, who SHOULD get back on her feet by herself, instead we have a weepy maiden who needs her knight in shining armour to save her... who just happens to be a world class blacksmith at a young age, despite being a ignored orphan, through sheer grit and hard work... lol.

Not only that, but as a former noble she should know that working in the royal castle is NO SMALL FEAT! Like this character is a walking contradiction.

Swears off romance, but heart throbs at every turn for our pretty boy.

Worked her ass off as a blacksmith but doesn't know what to do or work as while wandering around.

Constantly afraid of smelling like a blacksmith and soot, but finds the forge and smells there more comfortable than a bed.(OK, we get it, hero traumatized you, but the fuck you care? Didn't you swear off romance?)

Blacksmith offers her a place to work, our boy cucks our MC and literally makes a decisions for her and she just goes along with it? (No, you don't want to work here. Your trauma is too bad. I know better than you). MC even admitted he liked her look while working. Why the FUCK would he block this chance for her instead of letting her speak for herself?

Also, what kind of bullshit was that blacksmith saying. "You can tell talent through a handshake."- bro, if that were true then we'd never have failed leaders or prodigies working at the grunt-level.

Also-also, where did her hand go in the panel just prior to her handing the reforged sword over?

Also-also-also last chapter she said the blade was in good condition, why did she reforge it again?

Whew, it's been a while since a manga has had me so twisted.