Tsuihou Sareta Renkinjutsushi-san, Saikyou no Dungeon wo Tsukurimasen ka? - Vol. 3 Ch. 28

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[yun1que]

Hi team. No need to be sorry! Just take your time. Anw, thx for the TL and mass upload

 

[MoneyLoss]

Thank you for the major update and translation! Was worth the wait

 

[Elhao]

Should've been obvious to Rick and them when they didn't receive any DP after Victor's "death".

 

[ShinduPK4]

Thanks for the TL!
Insta-kill? Seriously? That's just bullshit.

 

[UncleKaos]

Thanks for the TL!
Insta-kill? Seriously? That's just bullshit.

Yes.. and no recoil effect from that neither? bs indeed.

 

[Elhao]

It sure sucks for Rick and Allen, but I can't imagine "I'm sorry, our hero can only fight at his best at night once every 28 days" (without any further information I'll just assume lunar cycles there to be as long as on earth) to look very useful to anyone seeking to employ him.

 

[rphilly]

Rick sure is kinda stupid huh. In this batch of chapters he was not only thoroughly outclassed as an alchemist but even with basic strategy. He spent how much time with an arrogant brute like Allen that relies totally on brute force and went yeah they'll infiltrate the castle. No they won't Allen's a moron of course he'll go through the entrance.

Tony's power is certainly broken but it doesn't really matter from the perspective of would he be a good hero. Allen is only as strong as Tony's base strength when his hero skill activates. Allen being the hero at all, even disregarding his personality, doesn't make sense when Tony seems a similar age and is way stronger than him at almost all times.

 

[Hefnef]

Rick sure is kinda stupid huh. In this batch of chapters he was not only thoroughly outclassed as an alchemist but even with basic strategy. He spent how much time with an arrogant brute like Allen that relies totally on brute force and went yeah they'll infiltrate the castle. No they won't Allen's a moron of course he'll go through the entrance.

Tony's power is certainly broken but it doesn't really matter from the perspective of would he be a good hero. Allen is only as strong as Tony's base strength when his hero skill activates. Allen being the hero at all, even disregarding his personality, doesn't make sense when Tony seems a similar age and is way stronger than him at almost all times.

To be fair, he only knew in advance that “a skilled party” would be arriving, and odds are that the skilled party would use that strategy, if they were going so far as to use the assassin to map out the dungeon beforehand. It wasn’t until the moment that they actually entered the dungeon that Rick became aware that Allen was gonna be participating in the raid, rather than “an unknown skilled party”

Also, in regards to how Allen is the hero instead of Tony, even though Tony is stronger, it’s exactly because of that - Tony is literally in the middle of acquiring Allen’s position as hero, and they are directly in the middle of performing the act you mentioned. Is Tony stronger? Yes. Is Tony overall better? Yes. The emphasis is that he isn’t a hero [yet], because he’s basically just claiming all of Allen’s fame for himself. That’s my understanding, at least


Also, as an aside that’s unrelated to the reply
Holy shit, Allen is actually capable of putting his displeasure of working with someone to the side for 0.02 microseconds in order to do his job????

 

[Hefnef]

It sure sucks for Rick and Allen, but I can't imagine "I'm sorry, our hero can only fight at his best at night once every 28 days" (without any further information I'll just assume lunar cycles there to be as long as on earth) to look very useful to anyone seeking to employ him.

It’s less so “he’s fighting at his best every 28 days”, and moreso “he’s even stronger than he already is, via a trump card occurring every 28 days”, the difference being the implication of what he’s capable of achieving outside of that 28th day

 

[rphilly]

To be fair, he only knew in advance that “a skilled party” would be arriving, and odds are that the skilled party would use that strategy, if they were going so far as to use the assassin to map out the dungeon beforehand. It wasn’t until the moment that they actually entered the dungeon that Rick became aware that Allen was gonna be participating in the raid, rather than “an unknown skilled party”

Also, in regards to how Allen is the hero instead of Tony, even though Tony is stronger, it’s exactly because of that - Tony is literally in the middle of acquiring Allen’s position as hero, and they are directly in the middle of performing the act you mentioned. Is Tony stronger? Yes. Is Tony overall better? Yes. The emphasis is that he isn’t a hero [yet], because he’s basically just claiming all of Allen’s fame for himself. That’s my understanding, at least


Also, as an aside that’s unrelated to the reply
Holy shit, Allen is actually capable of putting his displeasure of working with someone to the side for 0.02 microseconds in order to do his job????

Well at some point Allen would've had to be chosen as the hero right? Whenever that was Tony was probably still stronger than Allen at that point. Normally these stories just make the bad hero a hero solely based on them possessing a specific skill, or chosen by god, but I don't remember if it's the case here.

If Tony is younger than Allen by more than a few years, it might make sense that Allen is the hero because he was just born earlier. If Tony is older or the same age, then it would make sense only under some circumstances. Stuff like Tony was strong but not well known, Tony's strength only appeared recently so Allen was just a better candidate until now, Allen got his position due to corrupt nobles trying to enrich their positions, or stuff like that.

Mainly though I was just replying to the idea that people would think less of Tony because his instant death skill being restricted to less than half a day of usage once a month.

 

[kaminomikan]

a whole volume, and this didn't get a conclusion?

 

[HDMI1]

Thanks for the TL!
Insta-kill? Seriously? That's just bullshit.

Yes.. and no recoil effect from that neither? bs indeed.

Considering that the skill can only be activated once a month for just a 6 hour time window it's a fair trade off.

 

[Pyras]

Thanks for the mass release.

 

[StormSen]

There's a couple of points here:

• Rick's Synthesis gift is very strong, but it's in the same ballpark as some of the other gifts that we've seen.
• The power gifts here are not guaranteed wins, but rather also rely on tactics, teamwork, etc.
• Dorma's alchemy skill is very good. She's about the same level as Rick. But his strength is Alchemy Synthesis, while her strength seems to be alchemy + magic.
• Tony, aside from his gift, is a very good leader, respecting his team and developing coordinated strategies with them. This is the opposite of Allen who is the worst leader imaginable.
• At the last Hero contest, we can assume that Tony's buff was not active. And/or that Allen's power was active. Note that Allen's power (when activated) is proportional to the threat that he's under.
• Allen's skill likely requires Rick's golden potion to activate. (We now know that Rick's "Golden Potion" is completely different from the standard Golden Potion, even though the appearance and functioning seem much the same.)
• Pending: Mary declined from the party just before this dungeon raid. Her fate is pending.
• Pending: Old man Albert. Very sus guy. We know that he works with the King, that he got Rick into Allen's party, and that he seems to be manipulating this situation. But we have no idea what his long term goals are.

Just prior to this arc, I saw complaints about how long it takes. Those complaints now seem off-base. This is the first time that we're getting real fights rather than one side or the other getting one-shot. And we're seeing an intelligent fight between tactics and counter-tactics. And there are multiple players/motives, which makes it harder to predict. So this is the first interesting arc.

 

[StormSen]

I got lost several chapters back, so here's a party recap. (Strike means no longer in party)

Allen Cole Hero Party

• Victor Goldsmith (Tank)
• Rick (Alchemist MC) Kicked by Allen due to Allen's arrogance.
• Matilda Olson (Mage) Died to due to Cockatrice venom, due to Allen's rash actions.
• Fitz Raison (Martial Artist) Retired. Lost lower leg due to Allen's rash actions.
• Albert Raito (Attacker) Presumed Dead. Fitz's replacement. Lost and abandoned in dungeon, thanks to Allen.
• Mary Plato (Healer) Left party denouncing Allen as a total non-Hero.
• Dorma (Alchemist) Rick's replacement. (Short black hair with glasses.)

Tony Party

• Christopher Perez (Mage)
• Eirin Seeger (Healer) (Looks similar to Dorma, but eyepatch, no glasses.)
• Liez Clement (Assassin A) Dead from Rick's trap + Tony's coup de grace.

Edit: Reminder: Allen's party listed here is just from the start of the manga. In ch 24 we're told that Allen, Rick and Victor were original members, but that many(?) other members have come and gone.

 

[ScryedParadox]

I got lost several chapters back, so here's a party recap. (Strike means no longer in party)

Allen Cole Hero Party

• Victor Goldsmith (Tank)
• Rick (Alchemist MC) Kicked by Allen due to Allen's arrogance.
• Matilda Olson (Mage) Died to due to Cockatrice venom, due to Allen's rash actions.
• Fitz Raison (Martial Artist) Retired. Lost lower leg due to Allen's rash actions.
• Albert Raito (Attacker) Presumed Dead. Fitz's replacement. Lost and abandoned in dungeon, thanks to Allen.
• Mary Plato (Healer) Left party denouncing Allen as a total non-Hero.
• Dorma (Alchemist) Rick's replacement. (Short black hair with glasses.)

Tony Party

• Christopher Perez (Mage)
• Eirin Seeger (Healer) (Looks similar to Dorma, but eyepatch, no glasses.)
• Liez Clement (Assassin A) Dead from Rick's trap + Tony's coup de grace.

That's appreciated. Because I honestly forgot who Victor was.

And why is it that I had to care about him being alive. Or if he had even been potentially dead or just not present or whatever. The blob that is the hero team is just turning into a blob to me.

 

[Alzu]

Allen Cole Hero Party

• Victor Goldsmith (Tank)
• Rick (Alchemist MC) Kicked by Allen due to Allen's arrogance.
• Matilda Olson (Mage) Died to due to Cockatrice venom, due to Allen's rash actions.
• Fitz Raison (Martial Artist) Retired. Lost lower leg due to Allen's rash actions.
• Albert Raito (Attacker) Presumed Dead. Fitz's replacement. Lost and abandoned in dungeon, thanks to Allen.
• Mary Plato (Healer) Left party denouncing Allen as a total non-Hero.
• Dorma (Alchemist) Rick's replacement. (Short black hair with glasses.)

Holy fuck, you would think Victor and Dorma would run for the hills after the complete and utter decimation of their group.

 

[StormSen]

Holy fuck, you would think Victor and Dorma would run for the hills after the complete and utter decimation of their group.

This was somewhat explained in Ch 24, where Victor warned Dorma that the party goes through members like a man chronic diarhea goes through underwear. Essentially, the people joining were not the best, but rather good enough + desperate/driven enough to take the risk of being discarded.

E.g. Dorma is hoping to fund her research or get it done in adjunct with her work for the party. She get stymied in that by Allen's "only do what I say" attitude, but then is recruited by Tony's group, who fund her research in exchange for her participation in the "Kill Allen" scheme.

The only original members were Allen, Rick and Victor. So now we're wondering what Victor's reason for sticking around so long. (Might be some personal loyalty, or might be pure selfishness - i.e. the benefits that he gets from being in the party - and being good enough and savvy enough to not get discarded.)