Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 41 - Everything, Falling Apart

[Rarez]

I don't know what else to tell you,

Simple.

Simple.

If I started a problem and forced you to be included into it.

How much are you in fault for not fixing the problem I've created?

Should you be in charged of fixing the problem I've created?

Just answer this.

Because You pretty skipped this by saying

The the thing is you are assuming Yuu ignoring Hikari is not a problem when it is.

Btw. The follow-up question is who is expected to fix this?

The person who created the problem or the person who is forced to be included?

 

[middle-the-nerd]

Yeah, I know. It's hard to convey everything and remember what we said weeks ago. Yeah, I understand him being tipping his toes around Hikari given his love story and not wanting to be hurt, being oblivious to signals and that. I understand it may look like I hate him but is not the case, I defended him when people expected top notch gentleman behaviour from him when he is a dumb teen. That's why I'm more stuck with what I think is his real issue that caused problems with everyone instead of the ones that only hurted him.

Yeah honestly alot of his fuck ups roughly boil down to 2 reasons imo

1. Dumbass teen (like basically every teen)
2. Extreme lack of self confidence

He's simultaneously deserving of criticism while also deserving of sympathy (especially after this chapter wtf Yami)

 

[Kalbiaczek]

I wonder if People will still insist that Yami did nothing, given that they were willing to blame Yuu for her fuck ups.

Yami is just a whore with a loneliness complex sometimes people don't talk to another for their whole life's and don't do such things she's just a horny little bitch

 

[Rarez]

Yep acting like it's black and white is just...not accurate

Normally. I would have agreed.

But this time, we have clear actor and action that caused all this.

And any blame towards the neutral actors is saying their bad for not being able to perfectly respond in a way that nullify the harmful actor and actions.

 

[middle-the-nerd]

Alright fuck it time to make my prediction what part 4 is gonna be at least partially

We're in for another flashback from Yuu's POV to show his past with Hikari more (and hopefully show what those heartbreaks that were mentioned are)

Yeah yeah i know people here hate flashbacks, and don't want more, but I honestly think we need to see more shit from Yuu's POV to flesh his character out some and showing his past with Hikari would be a great way to do it

 

[Insev]

Holy shit as a Yuu hater I just typed up a little essay and basically gaslit myself into liking Yami as a character and hating Yuu even more?

TLDR; If you want to play with fire (Yami) then getting burnt is on you and Yuu is the reason both Yami and Hikari are even crashing out in the first place

Spoiler: Fuck Yuu Yap

This might be the hottest take here but in my opinion Yuu is objectively the worst person here. is Yami a complete and total bitch? absolutely, but both of them KNEW that going in when they met her and they're the ones who forced their way into relationships with her even after the shit she pulled on them. You don't get to put your hand over a fire and cry because it burns you. I also want to argue that her perspective is crashing out because it turns out the only guy she's ever liked is childhood friends with the person who's basically her only friend and not only do they like each other, but she basically got in between them and got pushed aside anyway. It makes perfect sense that a damaged character like her would self destruct and lash out.

On the other hand, Yuu has no fucking balls and never actually takes into consideration anyone's feelings but his own because he only cares about himself and what he wants. It's crazy to me how many people give Yuu a pass for sleeping with Yami while he was crushing on Hikari just because he's a teenager like he can't have any self control or self respect. Not to mention the fact that he did make 0 effort to reach out or check on Yami at any point after she cut him off? literally 0 effort? You can't even say he was respecting her wishes because as soon as he saw her again he jumped right back into it. There's also all of the lying by omission on top of the straight up lying out of convenience. Yuu is absolutely not innocent nor is he the one who got the short end of the stick out of the three of them. He's the only one here who had the agency to do the right thing multiple times and fail at every given opportunity.

Hikari is definitely the best person here which is ironically what her flaw is. No one told her to extend a hand out to Yami and she really should have taken the hint after the compensated dating fiasco but she didn't; and arguably her friendship with Yami wouldn't have ever even had an issue without the existence of Yuu but here we are. Even now she's trying to do the right thing and help out the relationship between Yami and Yuu at the cost of her own happiness (even if she'd 100% be better off cutting them both out of her life and moving on).

I think this chapter was pretty good and summed up the gist of the plot and characters pretty well. Yami is damaged and self destructive so she pushes people away, Yuu deserves everything that happens to him for being so indecisive and cowardly, and Hikari was too passive and willing to give people the benefit of the doubt, so now she has to deal with both of their flaws.

Hikari also had the perfect point as to why I'm a Yuu hater out of all of them: in her mind Yuu would never have done any of that if he didn't have feelings for Yami. In other words while crushing on Hikari he decided to go for the girl he had a shot with and caught feelings, then came crawling back when it didn't work out because he didn't really care that much in the first place compared to Hikari, except he also downplayed it hard and shrugged off his relationship with Yami now that he knew he had a chance with his original crush. He basically caused the entire crashout for all parties.

Holy shit dude, we got a runner-up of the yapping summer fest here. you weren't joking.
immaculate dissertation i dare say, you make really good points and i agree, very hot take, i got sunburned.

Let me just point out though that a lot of your essay is built upon lack of info.
But we will never get those info because maruto is a bitch and never fleshes out his male protagonists which in turn makes your analisys very plausible.

take this with a grain of salt though, after all i love yami because i act like her (without the self-pitying angst, i own my bad actions). i am not the healthiest pea in the pod so this might be just my bias showing.

 

[Kaito57]

I pity Poor Yuu having to deal with two girls who just don’t know what they want… Sigh…

 

[story645]

With Hikari she wanted her to just accept the lie (not believe it, as @Catbowl pointed out) and go along with Yuu's confession, forgiving him for the little incident.

Meh, I think she mostly just wants both of them to see the real her. Which here means that Hikari sees through all the nonsense and pushes on Aya to be open and vulnerable about what she really wants. Otherwise there'd be no point in Aya testing Hikari by kissing Yuu in front of her.

Yeah I can easily see how they can write it with her forgiving Yuu but Yami? No this was too fucking much

I think this arc is kinda Hikari forgiving Aya? She chose to go find Aya and confront her and push Aya to face her feelings and called Aya out on her nonsense and like Hikari is the type to do these sorta things out of love for the person rather than vengeance.

What do you expect of a whore that slept with a guy she barely even knew by the time they did it

She's not a whore for sleeping w/ all of one guy she was very into and she paid dearly for sleeping w/ him by falling head over heels into a relationship where she felt like the convenient rather than wanted choice. Also like any criticism Aya gets for this should also land on Yuu 'cause he also slept w/ someone he just met who he barely knew.

lol Yuu didn't even get like %10 of this understanding that Yami got from Hikari. Dude is just there to be used as an object of affection and shit on.

Eh? Like Hikari told him she loved him and sympathized w/ how hard it was to confess & we haven't yet seen what happened after she said she hates liars. And here she's straight up sticking up for Yuu.

Damn I think I'd hate both of these

To be fair, me too. My otp is Aya/good therapist & I'm grudgingly ok w. Hikari and Yuu after she's had a few boyfriends and is like "ugh, I still like the idiot".

 

[Kalbiaczek]

I

Meh, I think she mostly just wants both of them to see the real her. Which here means that Hikari sees through all the nonsense and pushes on Aya to be open and vulnerable about what she really wants. Otherwise there'd be no point in testing Hikari by kissing Yuu in front of her.


I think this arc is kinda Hikari forgiving Aya? She chose to go find Aya and confront her and push Aya to face her feelings and called Aya out on her nonsense and like Hikari is the type to do these sorta things out of love for the person rather than vengenece.


She's not a whore for sleeping w/ all of one guy she was very into and she paid dearly for sleeping w/ him by falling head over heels into a relationship where she felt like the convenient rather than wanted choice. Also like any criticism Aya gets for this should also land on Yuu 'cause he also slept w/ someone he just met who he barely knew.


Eh? Like Hikari told him she loved him and sympathized w/ how hard it was to confess & we haven't yet seen what happened after she said she hates liars. And here she's straight up sticking up for Yuu.

To be fair, me too. My otp is Aya/good therapist & I'm grudgingly ok w. Hikari and Yuu after she's had a few boyfriends and is like "ugh, I still like the idiot".

I'm not defending Yuu it was his lack of self preservation but it doesn't change the fact that Aya is a fucking slut that would do it with anyone

 

[Nobi]

Yami sure did a great job keeping her composure and not escalating the conflict.

 

[middle-the-nerd]

kinda Hikari forgiving Aya? She chose to go find Aya and confront her and push Aya to face her feelings and called Aya out on her nonsense and like Hikari is the type to do these sorta things out of love for the person rather than vengeance.

Idk I don't really see this as her "forgiving" Yami a bit too confrontational to me still even if it's not out of "vengeance" either

To be fair, me too. My otp is Aya/good therapist & I'm grudgingly ok w. Hikari and Yuu after she's had a few boyfriends and is like "ugh, I still like the idiot".

Yeah I don't think there'd be a way for the author to spin it that I'd like it lol

 

[middle-the-nerd]

All that I know anymore-

God I don't want a Yuu x Yami ending PLEASE

 

[3turtlesinacoat]

Hmm. This chapter honestly felt a bit lacking to me, maybe because its only half the conversation, what with hikaris reaction missing.
I guess that how one writes cliffhanger though, so ill see you all when this is back, and we actually get a conclusion to this altercation.
Thanks for the chapter!

 

[favine]

... sigh

 

[Friendly-Sentence710]

I see the "Yuu can't read the minds of girls = He's scum" squad is out in full force despite the explicit revelation that not only was he kissed by Yami but she did it explicitly knowing that Hikari was watching.
But obviously all Yuu's fault.

What the hell is wrong with me?
Why did I go through with it,
even after I realized Hikari was right there?

Yeah holy shit that is some inexcusable behavior.

I thought she was just having a case of regret and unresolved feelings that burst out but holy shit.

 

[robopiplup07]

& we haven't yet seen what happened after she said she hates liars.

I feel this is a good argument against the idea that Hikari is getting angry for Yami's sake. Going from "I hate liars" in no uncertain terms to this argument leads me to believe that she's legitimately hurt and pissed off at Yami lying as well. If anything, she should be MORE pissed at Yami for dragging her childhood friend who she knows has issues asserting himself into this whole mess. If it turns out that Hikari is doing all of this from a position of only being mad for the sake of her friends, then I don't think I'll be able to not throw my hands up and cry bad writing.

 

[GennArc]

I think she mostly just wants both of them to see the real her. Which here means that Hikari sees through all the nonsense and pushes on Aya to be open and vulnerable about what she really wants.

I mean, just compare her monologues in both chapters. In ch. 40 she desperately wants him to recognise her lies, while here she desperately wants Hikari to stop her truth assault. Because, at the end of the day, admitting she still loves Yuu equals confronting Hikari to her.

 

[Friendly-Sentence710]

I mean… is it really that creepy to go looking for your girlfriend who just ghosted you without a word? The message is pretty clear, sure, but if it were me—and I was 100% committed to the relationship—I’d at least want to know why. Because of that, and what Yuu said when he confessed to Hikari, it feels to me like he was never fully invested in Yami.

Other than in Yami's delulu mind, Yuu had no way of finding her or getting in contact.

They had no mutual friends, he didn't know where she lived, just her phone number (and presumably her line) so if she cut those off he couldn't go find her unless he went creeping around her school - and even if he had, she wasn't going. (Her skipping school [so they could go fuck] was something he knew about her as well)

Yami was hanging at the station to her school, after avoiding it for a long time (I think she said a couple months), dreaming that Yuu would come find her again. Yuu only stopped at that station the one time because he took the entrance exam (and failed), and so even if he went to the station to try to find her, she would have been MIA.
She wanted him to be so utterly hung up on her he'd hang around where they met the one time for months.

She didn't say anything when she cut him off, gave him no warning. If he would have gone creeping around his school or moping at the station for the couple of months needed to encounter Yami again, he'd be getting shit on for not being able to taking a hint by the same people who claim he didn't do enough to try to find her.

Yami is just completely self-destructive, and its a shame for Yuu and Hikari they got caught in her blast radius.

 

[middle-the-nerd]

If Hikari really tries "stepping aside" so Yami can go after Yuu I'll crash the absolute fuck out

 

[robopiplup07]

But obviously all Yuu's fault.

Nice strawman. We're arguing against the people saying he's a complete innocent bystander, which is actually being said. Yami is the active perpetrator, but Yuu is also guilty of being a shitty friend who really does tend to only think of himself and what he needs to say to get what he wants.