Kimi wa Yotsuba no Clover - Ch. 39 - Like light

[RoxasJ]

Never trust a pretty face in a series like this.

 

[zelsphere]

How dare those shitty brats make Yotsuha cry 😡

 

[Akudia94]

" oh she is suffer and abuse, forgive her" my ass. that didn't excuses to bully someone. This kind of caretaker were useless because she basically let someone become scapegoat and just tell her to be good and take full blunt of suffering.

that's why the bully is so rampant, teacher protect the one bullying, not the one that suffering from it just to safe face. no wonder lots japanese MC were such doormat. it always when the victim retaliate,.they took action and punish the victim instead.

 

[drakenation]

How bad is the bullying problem in Japan really? I swear every other manga makes the average JP high school look like lord of the flies

Bullying in Japan is probably as big a problem as the Deadly Japanese Cold.

It's just an easy way to create a specific situation. And it works, too: if you check the comments in pretty much any manga with bullying, you'll find many people hating on the bully and/or taking pity on the bullied person. Which is exactly what authors expect people to feel. No reason to fix what's not broken.

Interestingly enough, there's usually no middle ground: if it's a drama, the school has a bullying problem. If it's a rom-com, then everybody is really nice, and the MC just never had the courage to talk to people. I've yet to find a manga where the general feeling is indifference and apathy, which IMO would be the more realistic approach.

 

[yun1que]

Thx god SEA people doesn't tolerate these kind of bullying because they will fight back (don't know if the same apply to expensive / high caste private school because I go to public).

I once got bullied too for literally no reason other than existing and man it felt so good beating the shit out of the guy who do that to me after 1-2 weeks trying to be patient and hope the bully got bored of me to no avail.. and well it's fun until his friends gang up and beat me back which is expected but oh well.. For the next 2-3 years iirc until I graduate from primary school I was left alone I guess, and thx god I still did that even tho principal called for PTA and I got my ass beat back too in the house

 

[EtoAlua]

Nah, she ain't your mother. I see no side braid.

 

[Droub]

The mom is a piece of shit.
How do we know?
Uichi just suddenly stopped getting letters from yatsuha.
If anyone was stopping her, it would be her new mom.
She is going to be one of the worst characters in the series, calling it now.

 

[NotKiwiBird]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
WHAT DID SHE DO TO BE HURT LIKE THAT

this might genuinely be one of the saddest panels I have ever seen

 

[3turtlesinacoat]

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
WHAT DID SHE DO TO BE HURT LIKE THAT

this might genuinely be one of the saddest panels I have ever seen

Yeah this panel in particular really messed me up.
i wish nothing but the best for her and that she gets to actually live a pleasant life after all this is over

 

[samvision]

How bad is the bullying problem in Japan really? I swear every other manga makes the average JP high school look like lord of the flies

It's even worse in Korea.

 

[Bananimal]

" oh she is suffer and abuse, forgive her" my ass. that didn't excuses to bully someone. This kind of caretaker were useless because she basically let someone become scapegoat and just tell her to be good and take full blunt of suffering.

that's why the bully is so rampant, teacher protect the one bullying, not the one that suffering from it just to safe face. no wonder lots japanese MC were such doormat. it always when the victim retaliate,.they took action and punish the victim instead.

Plus it's teaching the bully that the abusive behavior they grew up with is acceptable, dooming her to repeat her family's violence.

But punishing bad behavior is too hard, I guess 🫠

 

[Akudia94]

Thx god SEA people doesn't tolerate these kind of bullying because they will fight back (don't know if the same apply to expensive / high caste private school because I go to public).

I once got bullied too for literally no reason other than existing and man it felt so good beating the shit out of the guy who do that to me after 1-2 weeks trying to be patient and hope the bully got bored of me to no avail.. and well it's fun until his friends gang up and beat me back which is expected but oh well.. For the next 2-3 years iirc until I graduate from primary school I was left alone I guess, and thx god I still did that even tho principal called for PTA and I got my ass beat back too in the house

the bullies feel good because the feel no consequences and the victim don't fight back. they are coward.

i once got bullied too, it just that one day my anger peak and i snapped and blank out, i choked him out of breath. if not for other students came to break and separate us, i might be a killer that day. i don't know how i get that fearless or maybe it just adrenaline and anger that just break me loose.

well, for the rest of my primary school years, no one dare to mess with me out of fear that i might snap choke someone to death. Fear is effective tool to put down the coward like bullies. sometimes you just beat out the shit of them without caring the consequences. if you let them bully, you suffer, if you fight back, you got blame but at least you beat the shit out of them. that a plus. fuck PTA and Principal being mad at you, what they gonna do anyway? sue you? you sue back to them for letting the bullies happen and make it viral, so it ruin the school image. if i gonna down, i pull them down with me too.

 

[frubam]

the irises on the new character brother and mother look.... demonic ☣️

 

[Akudia94]

Plus it's teaching the bully that the abusive behavior they grew up with is acceptable, dooming her to repeat her family's violence.

But punishing bad behavior is too hard, I guess 🫠

Nah, the teacher didn't want to face scrutiny and make their problem bigger. They didn't want to make it their problem. GTO issues this problem, parent and teachers rather save their image and face rather tackling the issues.

 

[Sakuyadorf]

so that girl bully is jealous that yotsuha was getting bullied? what a silly mindset
older brother!?

 

[TheEnd478]

" oh she is suffer and abuse, forgive her" my ass. that didn't excuses to bully someone. This kind of caretaker were useless because she basically let someone become scapegoat and just tell her to be good and take full blunt of suffering.

that's why the bully is so rampant, teacher protect the one bullying, not the one that suffering from it just to safe face. no wonder lots japanese MC were such doormat. it always when the victim retaliate,.they took action and punish the victim instead.

Yep, telling the victim to "be understanding" and just "TAKE" the bullying only makes it worse. The "abuse victim" isn't going to get better, she's going to get worse and worse till heaven help she starts a family of her own, she's never been PUNISHED for her bad behavior so she will end up ABUSING her child in the future.....THE CYCLE CONTINUES (sadly nothing gets done till something serious happens, best that can be done with "her" is she crosses a line someday and REALLY gets punished, the Adults failed her as the failed FMC all because it's likely "discipling" her would be "above her paygrade" so go the "hope the victimizer feels guilty one day and stops.....spoilers that never happens till consequences are incoming sadly take it from someone who was a POS for half-a-month HIGH on "getting away with it" when I was 12 two decades back! Believe me I STILL feel guilt over it! Ironically it was DODGING responsibility that caused the guilt to hit me, Victim snitched and me & the others got in trouble, since I was a good kid before that, I LIED through my teeth, something I'm still not proud of, even my "Victim" believed me, I spend the rest of that year and time in middle school treating them like a FUCKING KING to "atone" but I view it as COWARDICE and nothing more on my part. Use to think bullies got away with everything, only to find out the hard way life is a gamble, sometimes you get away, sometimes you don't. But when I got the LATTER, it scared me into the Former! Sucks to be honest that IT WAS FEAR OF POTENTIAL PUNISHMENT that got me to see the error of my ways more then changing on my own, I fear what might have happened if he never snitched. But to him, I hope the best for him. Hope unlike me he made it big and became Some CEO or something, while my loser ass does whatever I can to make the bread. I feel it's fitting! Some of use get better because of what happened like I described, others like my little brother sadly don't and by adult hood, PEAK and ruin their lives STILL not getting "what we're doing wrong!" He stands as an example to me of what I could have become, funny HE is a little brother bully as well with how he TRIES to bully me!

In Japan it's the whole "don't rock the boat" which comes back to HAUNT everyone in the long run, Victim ESPECIALLY but the enablers, the bystanders and MAJORLY the Victimizer who end up CONFUSED when they "get the punishment they DESERVE, but are CONFUSED on WHY as they never suffered it before if their the LONG type" Plus we have to understand what a "doormat" is as I see that used on ANYTHING THAT ISN'T BEING REBELLIOUS (found even the REBEL can be a "doormat" at times) but every personality type and culture have their major nasty flaws!

 

[TheEnd478]

Destroyed her letters likely just to get a LAUGH out of her misery for like a moment. To those girls it will look like a "Serves you right" but eventually as time goes on, they'll think back to it as their most UGLY moment in their lives. Either shutting it down to not feel bad and FAILING, erase it from their minds till they act similar to it again only this time consequences hit them and they live the rest of their MISERABLE existence STILL wonder "how that can happen, it didn't happen before!"

The girls are worse then the boys, the boys can easily be seen as "just being brats", still bad but they likely only wanted to "Get a reaction" out of FMC out of a sense of "Look I got them to react", still bad but something I can see them looking back at when older and cringing at their young idiot selves, but the girls are just bitches who a NASTY PART OF ME hopes things DIDN'T get better for them after FMC left. Would be funny in the future one of them is HORRIBLY bulled by even WORSE bullies who did EXACTLY what she did to FMC to something precious to her and she has a "chuckle" at how it went full circle, she did that same horrible thing, hopefully the white haired girl, as for the "Abuse victim" wouldn't be surprised if she is stuck in abusive relationships after abusive relationships in the future because she never learned to SEE the problem for what it was, only she has no regrets for what she did to FMC and more MISSES being the one in the SUPERIOR position she had over FMC where SHE WAS the Victimizer (Still remembering Lost Judgement and that one where the MC who was a former bully victim seeked revenge against his former bully by HELPING said bully's daughter who he didn't know was being BULLIED herself while getting revenge on him! Just like in Lost Judgement the bullies being VICTIMIZED by being blackmailed are unrepentant and only SCARED of their past being revealed cause they FAKED being good people and KNOW they'll be reviled if the truth of their past came out as their blackmailed AND STILL get it revealed anyway. Funny how the FATHER Bully ruined his own life and MC got the BEST revenge on the man, he destroyed his relationship with his daughter who as said was being bullied, he never realized and worse in her eyes, was unrepenent of his past and STLL acted as he did back then, making him NO DIFFERENT then her bully, can't say I didn't laugh when he THOUGHT he FINALLY had a way to BRIBE himself back into his daughter's good grace, a man who grabbed his wheelchaired and moved them inbetween trains was a man he HORRIBLLY bullied and ruined coming for revenge. He only starts "saying sorry" when it's too late for him. And so he dies, KNOWING his daughter will NEVER forgive him, and will always see him as a bully who "got what he deserved" which was a former victim seeking revenge, the man assumed he was INVINCIBLE because of connections and so never thought to STOP making enemies, ironically his ENABLING employers threw him under the bus when he got CAUGHT ordering a HIT on MC in his HIGH SENSE that he was invincible, admitting they KNEW he was trash, but cause he got results, they ignored it but NOW hate his guts cause letting him get away with his bad behavior now NEGATIVELY effected them! That last part I liked, cause it shows a Bully has SOME awareness or idea that their enablers are ONLY enabling for the sake of benefit, the SECOND they the bully become a PLAGUE, all of a sudden "everyone ghosts them!")

Also I'm not so great on her mother and brother. The fact she ended up in the system in the first place is SUS. And this is a flashback, I start to wonder if FMC had to "do things" to get the PEACE she wanted in order to try and SAVE MC.

 

[TheEnd478]

so that girl bully is jealous that yotsuha was getting bullied? what a silly mindset
older brother!?

She's jealous because the boys pay attention to Yotsuha and not her! The "bullying" slips her mind as it makes her feel WORTHLESS, so she has to make Yotsuha feel WORTHLESS to feel better about herself, the whole broomstick bit might have been her VISITING her own abuse on Yotsuha, a "Convienant" victim for her (made worse by the fact the caretaker took the "Feel sorry for her she was abuse" approach to the problem....which solved nothing and only made it worse, CONVINCINGG Yotsuha to just "Take the abuse" and maybe the girl might RESPECT her when NO, that exists in whatever fantasy exist in the idiot who spouted it's mind! Even in those STORIES, the bully ONLY respected the Main character AFTER they beat the shit out of them. But that itself is a coin toss as I've had BULLIES who even when I kicked their asses, they came back WORSE and TWICE AS UGLY! Likely out of fear of being "Seen as weak" and attempting to reestablish their "Dominance over on me!" Pathetic indeed as I started to AVOID THEM at that point, then I got my hands on Metal Gear Solid and started COPYING what I did in the game. Not the Punching or Breaking Necks part, the "planning out stealth routes to get from Point A to Point B without getting caught" so I embrassed the fools as I got past them no issues, it was fun, especially as I was a heft FAT kid, still kind of em just really 10 pounds on the BAD SIDE of my Age's weight back then and even still, compared to the WHALES I see around me, I'm just pudgy LOL cause I do sports or long walks next to my gaming and reading. So that kept me in shape, especially as I more WALKED long distances rather then DRIVE to enjoy the walk....except in summer or winter when their VERY extreme, then I have to drive!)

I'm curious on how things will go for her with her Mother and Brother now (I know it likely got WORSE, and am interested to see how that is! Makes me think she HAD to do something to get them "distance" from her)

 

[Graywing]

They always come with smiles. Thanks for the chapter!!!

 

[jesuscristo]

so are they both yotsuha alts or what