Isekai Craft Gurashi ~Jiyuu Kimama na Seisan Shoku no Honobono Slow Life~ - Ch. 36

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That's fair. Though it's not like Market B would be able to immediately capitalize on Market A or restructure to specialize either. It would be more of a gradual shift as more and more people start taking the train. But yeah, there would be fallout from the sudden change for sure, and some people will be left holding the bag.
That wasn't the case historically. Rail exploded in popularity and began expanding geometrically pretty much immediately after it's first implementations, especially when it came to transporting goods.

As far as I know, that guy at the end was the craftsmen guildmaster and not a noble though, so he should be somewhere between political considerations and venture capitalism. His own personal ventures might be in trouble, I suppose. As far as pride and tradition goes, craftsmen that refuse to adapt also have the option of rising to the challenge.

All that said, it's also a huge "if" that Angellum can't compete with the capital. Weiss and Beldini are both figures that would draw in big-time talent.
What do you mean "rise to the challenge"? Are you suggesting they should develop their own mass transport independently? Unless there's a Tom Savery somewhere there, I find that hard to believe, given how much trouble these guys have with their (admittedly poor) approach.
 
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It could cripple the economy temporarily if all the carriage drivers, horse breeders, and carriage manufacturers / maintenance crews go out of business. It will take time for people to both adapt to and learn how to handle the new transportation repairs and maintenance.

Plus you cannot just have people with no magic ability opperate it like you can with carriages. It effectively shuts out a decent chunk of the population from being able to easily change from being "carriage drivers" to "train driver".

Add to it that prices for shipping would drop dramatically, and escort services would no longer be necessary either, and there would be a significant immediate economic impact.

But all of that is just immediate impact. Knowing the long term impact could either have it make the economy boom, or end up crippling it too hard before it can have a chance to take off again.
It only connects two cities, they could still go back and fourth to other places. And like I said, that's some sectoral damage, trade as a whole would increase. Immediately.
 
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You know, something I like about this series compared to others that have gods-given classes is that the classes seem to be descriptive, rather than prescriptive. That is to say, instead of being arbitrarily assigned and often being a curse, the classes given are ones that genuinely suit the person and their personality. Our prince here, for example, is pressured to be a swordsman, but he genuinely is interested in and enjoys crafting. Likewise, all of the craftsmen we've seen have all loved their work, and all of the mages have been shown to be extremely interested in magic. The angst isn't about being assigned the wrong class, it's just the social stigma attached to certain classes in society.
 
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Thanks for the chapter!

I mean there is no way karen and any will be able to get to miyabi except maybe the prince in the short term. They need to do stuff that would require severe economic help to do a lot of the early grinding safely, since they would need guardians for a lot of the early game since there are no safe zones in the wilderness.
 
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for some reason i got reminded of Cars where Radiator Springs just barely surviving since the construction of the toll road. Maybe production guild lead is from there.

cat test should have calculated Mel in the first place smh.
 
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why can't he just hook what ever is spinning the fans to make the air up to a belt and wheel or if it is magic air why not send it into a makeshift turbine and then have that spin the wheels is this guys an idiot i mean he's picked the most wasteful form of propulsion lol
 
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Please accept my condolences over the loss of your grandmother 😭

And thank you as always for the update.
 
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It's almost like he should have worked on making a Steam Engine instead.

That logic about the speedier trade 'destroying the economy', makes no sense, maybe it'd be bad for carriage drivers and their escorts, but it should increase trade and revenue. It would make more sense for an antagonist to say 'this will bust my monopoly'.

Thanks for the chapter!
Someone who relies on dangerous routes to increase cost of goods, especially to portray them as rare and hard to obtaina nd thus a status symbol for nobles, would see it as a factor of economy.

@haurvatat23 welcome back and glad you enjoyed your vacation, though sorry to hear about your grandma.
 
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That wasn't the case historically. Rail exploded in popularity and began expanding geometrically pretty much immediately after it's first implementations, especially when it came to transporting goods.
I'm not that versed in history, and certainly not in terms of innovation's effect on society, so I stand corrected there. A sharp industrial shift it is.

What do you mean "rise to the challenge"? Are you suggesting they should develop their own mass transport independently? Unless there's a Tom Savery somewhere there, I find that hard to believe, given how much trouble these guys have with their (admittedly poor) approach.
No, not the train bit. I mean the various producers within the economy improving themselves to keep up with any competition in the capital. Rising up to the challenge of a sudden increase in competition out of pride for their own work, as it were.
 
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It's almost like he should have worked on making a Steam Engine instead.

That logic about the speedier trade 'destroying the economy', makes no sense, maybe it'd be bad for carriage drivers and their escorts, but it should increase trade and revenue. It would make more sense for an antagonist to say 'this will bust my monopoly'.

Thanks for the chapter!
A steam engine would be nice... if they aren't building it under ground... (pretty sure thats what they were planning anyways), if thats the case if they don't do the ventalation very carefully people would just choke from no oxygen
 
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No, not the train bit. I mean the various producers within the economy improving themselves to keep up with any competition in the capital. Rising up to the challenge of a sudden increase in competition out of pride for their own work, as it were.
Well, most of the economy won't be negatively impacted (on the contrary, they'll get more business as more distant markets become reachable cheaper). I thought we were talking only about the people in direct competition to an expanding rail-like system. Those are pretty much screwed and should look to getting in on the bandwagon themselves, as you said. The problem is that this is a purely capitalist perspective and a real feudal kingdom does not work like this. IRL even a merchant's guild couldn't just chase profit indescriminately, because they were just commoners who had to take care not to step on too many toes. I'm not just talking about the nobility, the Church was one entity particularly feared in this case. They regarded "excessive profits" as a sin and often inserted themselves as a gatekeeper to many businesses. The trade of gold any other precious metals was one example - it was very lucrative, but only companies "vetted" by them could engage in it. The Church themselves had a habit of gathering vast amounts of those and making religions objects out of them (so that you couldn't accuse them of doing so out of greed). This kind of thing is what I meant that restructuring is not always possible, a feudal society has many similar hurdles.
 
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why can't he just hook what ever is spinning the fans to make the air up to a belt and wheel or if it is magic air why not send it into a makeshift turbine and then have that spin the wheels is this guys an idiot i mean he's picked the most wasteful form of propulsion lol
Yes, but also the easiest to implement and service, with minimal considerations for torque transmission systems (it pretty much just runs on magic applied directly to the fans) etc. If he were to insist on efficiency then he should have started from a steam engine. He's clearly not an engineer though, he couldn't even figure out brakes.
 
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Well, most of the economy won't be negatively impacted (on the contrary, they'll get more business as more distant markets become reachable cheaper). I thought we were talking only about the people in direct competition to an expanding rail-like system. Those are pretty much screwed and should look to getting in on the bandwagon themselves, as you said. The problem is that this is a purely capitalist perspective and a real feudal kingdom does not work like this. IRL even a merchant's guild couldn't just chase profit indescriminately, because they were just commoners who had to take care not to step on too many toes. I'm not just talking about the nobility, the Church was one entity particularly feared in this case. They regarded "excessive profits" as a sin and often inserted themselves as a gatekeeper to many businesses. The trade of gold any other precious metals was one example - it was very lucrative, but only companies "vetted" by them could engage in it. The Church themselves had a habit of gathering vast amounts of those and making religions objects out of them (so that you couldn't accuse them of doing so out of greed). This kind of thing is what I meant that restructuring is not always possible, a feudal society has many similar hurdles.
Oh, yeah, those industries are going to take a huge hit. They might straight up die as a profession if Miyabi either gets hired to expand the trainway or if the crafters powering the vehicle gain the power to dig their own routes.

I was talking about "the economy" at large. Market A and Market B was also referring the theoretical situation where if Angellum or the capital somehow completely lost in terms of productivity in every single industry.
 
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I like how the duke DO arranged marriage for political reason, BUT ALSO care for the third prince well-being. Like, it's not suck a black and white world, you can still do something for gain and also kindness. Most of isekai manga I read always choose either of the extreme. Too kind or too political. Most they can do is inbetween. Never doing both at the same time.
 
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Oh, yeah, those industries are going to take a huge hit. They might straight up die as a profession if Miyabi either gets hired to expand the trainway or if the crafters powering the vehicle gain the power to dig their own routes.

I was talking about "the economy" at large. Market A and Market B was also referring the theoretical situation where if Angellum or the capital somehow completely lost in terms of productivity in every single industry.
Forgot to mention one thing: the whole market A and B extensively interacting would be a thing yet to develop, if that world is at all like ours was. Medieval towns had minimal trade between them, partly due to the challenges of logistics and more importantly to the fact that craftsman's guilds had a monopoly on a given region's markets. Products from another place would not be allowed to be sold (and indeed it turned bloody if anyone persitently tried) and settlements tended to be mostly self sufficient. Grain and other foodstufs were the exception (peasants did not have guilds), as well as luxury products for the nobility (though they were sourced individually). So yeah, the capital and their own town would likely not have competed yet. It might become a thing once this kind of transportaion become common, but you can bet the guilds would fight it to the death.
 

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