Akuyaku Kizoku to shite Hitsuyou na Sore - Vol. 3 Ch. 15 - The Mirai Household

[BentusiII]

hero might have an underlying influence pushing him ...
or he just sees red waaay too easily. I feel the former might be the case and this is clear forshadowing.

 

[WiseOldKing]

damn refused huh

 

[kahoshi]

Now that's how you do a villain. Manipulation at its finest.

 

[FantasyMaster]

That's not what I meant, the hero got her in that situation. His stupid act got her abused. Now it's just him that got punished, in his eyes. At least he should know to learn from it

Yeah, but what of it?
What I mean is that, sending Alicia back home all battered like that could have the opposite effect. It's a 50/50. (kinda...maybe even 33/33/33)
Where talking hypotheses here, but for all the chances of the hero feeling guilty for Alicia getting beaten up by her father because his lack of "control", we might have the same amount of chances of him going berserk again against the father or even thinking it's Absolute's fault. (last one is an exageration, but hero really dislikes mc, so not impossible)
Besides (and in NO WAY to justify him...he's too full of himself and got what he deserved), we know that 99% the Saintess used her power on him...and he knows that he wasn't in his right mind for some reason he doesn't understand....so I don't even know if he'd feel guilty about it.
Plus, as I said before, at least he healed her pain and "fixed" her face...something that might have taken weeks...
Imagine going to school with her face in that condition, poor girl

 

[PachotheElf]

I would be surprised if it is even possible to "train mental brainwashing magic resistance"

It'd probably be just building up strong willpower and clear goals.

 

[Supperdude9]

Fucking dropped. How I hate this shit of talentless authors who say, "I'm writing a story about a villain, so all the characters who should have been good are actually bad. I'm so smart."

I wonder if the Saint is the one making them bad. Sort of reversing the story.

 

[MrTurtleMan]

Honestly I'm glad the girl is becoming the head of the family, the father was clearly incompetent and that's even before we consider how he's abusive and parentified his daughter to look after her own fiancé. That being said I'm rooting for the princess (unless she turns out to be awful when we actually meet her).

 

[jrocker]

I hope she joins his faction and his harem since she seems like a fun addition especially as she grows into an independent person

 

[MrTurtleMan]

I would be surprised if it is even possible to "train mental brainwashing magic resistance", but even assuming it is, would that not be the responsibility of the ones in charge of his training? Like, that is surely one of the very first things you teach to a political target in a world that has such magic used so rampantly it even appears in noble schools? Before any martial training whatsoever?
And if we assume the saintess is just that good that he had training but she overcame it, then it is again not his fault because a hero who only ever spends upping their brainwashing resistance is utterly useless. And once they reached an acceptable metric, then they should dedicate their training to more martial fields, and instead be protected from the exceptions in other ways.

Didn't you pay attention? When he was 1st introduced it was shown he was skipping training and classes, he said he doesn't need to learn that stuff as she can guide him, then he proceeded to ignore her when she said to leave the Ark family alone.

 

[OSAITUS]

now we have the bratty non prince and the bratty hero and probably next we will have the bratty saint, no sorry... she is more cunning, so probably she will pull the strings of the two

 

[14Darius28]

It wasn't the hero who beat her up, it was her shitty father.....which makes it even worse, because I'm pretty sure nobody would say a thing in how a "noble" raises their child/ren (meaning, even if Absolute were to go to the king and show Alicia's wounds, the best reply he'd get would be "mind yo mf'ing business"). At least, by healing her, he took the physical pain

Not so much. He literally forced the crown prince out of his position. Ironically for the same maid. He very much could discipline a Nobel.

 

[14Darius28]

Or, hear me out, it is his fault for slacking on his training. Dud has been called a hero and it's gone to his head. The chump just believed he could swing his sword and all was good. He ignored anything that required actual thought and this is the result.

As a result of his willful naivety and ignorance, his mental and magical resistances are weak, and lack of training has made him an easy target for those that would use him as a cats paw.

So yes while he was used by the Saintess as a pawn, it is a weakness completely of his own making. True there is no guarantee he could have resisted her simple manipulations, but his utter disregard for anything other then swinging his sword made her ploy all the more easy.

Honestly I'd say it's both of their faults hero and saintess. Like yeah he should have mental resistance. Yeah he should have listened to the Mirai household. Who would expect the saintess to mentally attack the hero? Why is the saintess not getting her recompense.

Now for the Mirai faction. If the hero was anybody else and not this super selfish child. I could see the idea of letting the daughter being his reigns would work. It would be good lesson for her. Unruly people are everywhere. Infact the hero as he is isn't a bad lesson for the daughter. The real problem is that her father didn't step in when the hero didn't listen. He never reinforced her so in all purposes he failed his daughter.

 

[feha]

Didn't you pay attention? When he was 1st introduced it was shown he was skipping training and classes, he said he doesn't need to learn that stuff as she can guide him, then he proceeded to ignore her when she said to leave the Ark family alone.

my implied point was that if he cut all classes, then he would have no martial ability. So he must have taken some classes (on account of having a martial ability). And if brainwashing is this much of a threat, then any preventative classes would [by any responsible noble tasked with training the hero] be required to complete, before even having any martial classes at all.

 

[Grye]

She could've been happy

 

[joeymcclane]

I wonder if the Saint is the one making them bad. Sort of reversing the story.

Some spoilers from the WN:

Spoiler: WN spoilers

The whole premise that even the original Ark was the villain was fabricated. The Hero is a dunderhead and only thinks about himself. The ark family is like the kingdoms shadow doing the dirty work. The Prince and the Hero antogonise ark and eventually take him out to. The Prince basically used the Hero to increase his influence.

Ark's only fault was he didn't rely on anyone.

And another point was the Hero Alto basically wanted the beast girl maid for himself. He had a harem of sort with the Alicia, Blind princess, the Saint and the maid knight. The future after orginal Ark died and the consequences will be probably shown in a separate Manga chapter.

 

[taerkitty]

I hope you enjoy today's chapter 🙇‍♂️

Damn. I mean, like, damn... I wish I could write like that.

 

[Miserys_End]

Honestly I'd say it's both of their faults hero and saintess. Like yeah he should have mental resistance. Yeah he should have listened to the Mirai household. Who would expect the saintess to mentally attack the hero? Why is the saintess not getting her recompense.

Now for the Mirai faction. If the hero was anybody else and not this super selfish child. I could see the idea of letting the daughter being his reigns would work. It would be good lesson for her. Unruly people are everywhere. Infact the hero as he is isn't a bad lesson for the daughter. The real problem is that her father didn't step in when the hero didn't listen. He never reinforced her so in all purposes he failed his daughter.

While the Saintess plays her own part, her manipulation of the hero is only possible because he failed to find value in what his adopted family tried to teach him. That being said, it would also be the Miria Family's failure as well. They basically fostered all responsibility of a self entitled shit of a hero onto a child. One who had no hope of forcefully motivating a headstrong ignorant twit into learning life skills and abilities that would be useful as a noble and hero for the kingdom.

@feha
Nah, even if he skipped all his lessons, he is still responsible for his own actions. Granted there is something to be said about the adults in hjs life, I get the sneaky suspicion that the MC isn't the only isekai-ed character in the story. He acts too self aware and is utterly certain in his belief that MC's family is evil and will be destroyed.

 

[lordb1]

soooomethin tells me this aint the last of the hero, thats for damn sure. I do wonder what the saint is gonna pull next, cuz I imagine she's probably the big bad of at LEAST the academy arc.

My guess the events of the game are going to play out just kinda skewed.

 

[MrTurtleMan]

my implied point was that if he cut all classes, then he would have no martial ability. So he must have taken some classes (on account of having a martial ability). And if brainwashing is this much of a threat, then any preventative classes would [by any responsible noble tasked with training the hero] be required to complete, before even having any martial classes at all.

I understand your point and if it did happen as you're assuming then your point is 100% valid, however my interpretation was he didn't really train, he simply has an innate ability that is insanely and capable of overpowering most people so he skipped as much as possible and didn't pay attention/put effort in when they were able to drag him to his classes and that's why he lost so easily to the maid (Uru? Wool? What are we calling her?).

 

[whitenight2013]

Some spoilers from the WN:

Spoiler: WN spoilers

The whole premise that even the original Ark was the villain was fabricated. The Hero is a dunderhead and only thinks about himself. The ark family is like the kingdoms shadow doing the dirty work. The Prince and the Hero antogonise ark and eventually take him out to. The Prince basically used the Hero to increase his influence.

Ark's only fault was he didn't rely on anyone.

And another point was the Hero Alto basically wanted the beast girl maid for himself. He had a harem of sort with the Alicia, Blind princess, the Saint and the maid knight. The future after orginal Ark died and the consequences will be probably shown in a separate Manga chapter.

Considering that was like chapter 10 in the web novel, I'm a little surprised they haven't shown it already.