S-Kyuu Boukensha ga Ayumu Michi: Tsuihou Sareta Shounen wa Shin no Nouryoku 'Buki Master' de Sekai Saikyou ni Itaru - Vol. 2 Ch. 7

[Raeandra]

The old gang really adamant about making him hate them, huh? It's like every interaction was either vague enough that it could be taken wrongly by someone they wronged, or outright provocative.

 

[TenThousandWaspsInACoat]

Just in case of confusion, im talking about another manga call "I Left My A-Rank Party to Help My Former Students Reach the Dungeon Depths!"
I did not read the WN for that if there is one so I am only talking about the manga

Spoiler

but basically the MC was kick out of the party for being "weak" (same old stuff), and one of the member Jamie was the only good one out of the bunch. and later on in the story the OG party was destroy, Jamie was the only one left and have to face charges for what the party has done. So she was invited by the MC's girl to join the celebration party, and during that celebration party, Jamie give a genuine apology to MC admit all the wrong thing the old party have done to MC.

I skip over a lot of stuff but that about it, just want to look for a genuine apology from Sasha and team minus Robin and admin they were wrong.

You're not gonna get that.

Spoiler

• Everyone keeps acting as if Sasha did nothing wrong, and even when the story brings it up it's brushed off.
• The Guildmaster is firmly on her side, defending her, minimizing he bad actions, and acting as if Haise is wrong for not forgiving her.
• None of her party, who actively sabotaged him, treated him badly, caused him to never get any training etc are ever punished for it.
• It becomes obvious he gut actively sabotaged from day one, when they begin taking in D ranks and other weak people and give them actual training. Where he got kicked out for being D rank and was kept from ever developing.
• This happened because two people in her party want to get into Sasha's pants.
• They not only face no consequences, they keep getting to act like this towards the MC, keep all their boons and other stuff.
• Sasha never rejects them, in fact she keeps them around. And allows them to keep acting this way.

 

[TenThousandWaspsInACoat]

The old gang really adamant about making him hate them, huh? It's like every interaction was either vague enough that it could be taken wrongly by someone they wronged, or outright provocative.

It's the latter, actually.

Spoiler

The party isn't nice, at all. Reynolds just wants to bend Sasha over, as does the Priestess. They actively created the issues, sabotaged Hyce from the get go, and caused many of the problems. They never face any consequences, even after Sasha learns about this. She keeps them around, and they keep being "her harem" so to speak. In fact the MC gets humiliated, put down, and forced back into a position where they can keep abusing him.

 

[NotTako001]

You're not gonna get that.

Spoiler

• Everyone keeps acting as if Sasha did nothing wrong, and even when the story brings it up it's brushed off.
• The Guildmaster is firmly on her side, defending her, minimizing he bad actions, and acting as if Haise is wrong for not forgiving her.
• None of her party, who actively sabotaged him, treated him badly, caused him to never get any training etc are ever punished for it.
• It becomes obvious he gut actively sabotaged from day one, when they begin taking in D ranks and other weak people and give them actual training. Where he got kicked out for being D rank and was kept from ever developing.
• This happened because two people in her party want to get into Sasha's pants.
• They not only face no consequences, they keep getting to act like this towards the MC, keep all their boons and other stuff.
• Sasha never rejects them, in fact she keeps them around. And allows them to keep acting this way.

yea basically what i get from all the spoilers, just hope that the manga adaptation will do it better, Sasha does not deserve the this good treatment

 

[Rafalga]

yea basically what i get from all the spoilers, just hope that the manga adaptation will do it better, Sasha does not deserve the this good treatment

Believe me, even the Japanese readers agree with you. They shit on her in EVERY SINGLE CHAPTER published if she has yet another glazing from everyone around her for absolutely no reason. It's fascinating to witness. Never seen such a collective hate for a female lead since maybe Chizuru who's author, funnily enough, also in love with their character.

 

[Niviik]

It was only 2 months. Where did you get an entire year?


Sasha knows that at this point

• He does not have access to his blessing which puts him at a disadvantage against monsters.
• He has no party so he will go there alone.
• He was shown to be impulsive in their last mission and was implied to be in the past.
• The location is quite far away.

Also, why didn't she confirm it herself with the Guild master before actually giving the information away to Haise?

What do you mean? This was Sasha's greatest blunder. Wanting to half-heartedly help Haise by giving out incomplete information made everything worse.

Or are you saying that she has zero accountability on this and it was Haise's fault for getting almost killed by a SS-Rank Dragon?

Like I said before, he has done that every day since she kicked him out of the team.

She perfectly knows that he can't fight against monsters. The fact that it was a dragon or team of goblins changes nothing, Haise would have been in a mortal danger. If she thought that he was in danger, she wouldn't have sent him there. Or do you think that she actually wanted to get him hurt on purpose?

He was there the very next day all by himself, so it wasn't that far. Plus Haise is also aware of what he can or can't do. He also judged that the trip was safe to go by himself.

I'm not saying it's Haise's fault, obviously not. For the thrid time, I'm saying it's the Guild's fault as they actually knew that there was a dragon there but didn't think it was an info worth giving to every adventurer.

 

[Niviik]

She kicked him from the party for being bad at fighting and then didn't do any basic research before sending him out to a location to see if it was safe? You don't see any contradictions here?

She kicked him out of the party because she was afraid that he would get killed if he stayed. She did that in the most stupid way, but she has always wanted him to be safe. If she thought that he could get hurt, she wouldn't have sent him there.

The problem is that the Guild knew that the zone was dangerous but didn't bother to make the info public.

 

[UdenEmpati]

She kicked him out of the party because she was afraid that he would get killed if he stayed. She did that in the most stupid way, but she has always wanted him to be safe. If she thought that he could get hurt, she wouldn't have sent him there.

The problem is that the Guild knew that the zone was dangerous but didn't bother to make the info public.

I think you make a good point about the Guild being dumb, yes. I do think Sasha being A-rank at the time should have maybe been in-the-know about stuff like an actual dragon showing up in an ordinarily safe region, but if the Guild is telling nobody, then she wouldn't know, either.
She's still a terrible person for all that she's done since that point to Haise, including letting her party continue to abuse and belittle / mock him to the present time (as far as the novelization goes), but that single point wasn't directly her fault.

Haise seeing it that way, makes sense as well, though. And his reasoning for writing her off and wanting nothing to do with her is founded because of everything that happened before and since that point (because whether or not she "was worried about him", she still just kicked him out for being weak instead of trying to find a way to keep her childhood friend in the party in a different capacity).

 

[Kampfarsch]

Do you really need hindsight to expect an A-Rank adventurer to act responsibly according to her rank?
Either it's bad writing to force a conflict or she is stupid in general.

If that homie was like Haise, it would be indeed irresponsible even if the stakes were lower. Regardless, confirming that the area was 100% safe would be the best thing to do either as a fellow homie or collector.

She was his friend that knew he wasn't cut out to be an adventurer due to not having access to his blessing. Haise got expelled with 4 out of 5 in favor for this very reason and yet she still gave out information that she should have confirmed herself that caused him to return half-dead.

"nuhuh eberything is her fault haise did nothing wrong >: ((("
I see you dont actually have a point, good talk man

 

[CommanderYammarkX6]

"nuhuh eberything is her fault haise did nothing wrong >: ((("
I see you dont actually have a point, good talk man

and you can't even defend your argument. Pathetic.

 

[Kampfarsch]

and you can't even defend your argument. Pathetic.

Defend against what? You didnt make any point.
You just sobbed about how its all her fault and she should have been better for the 5th time even though you have been repeatedly told why thats a braindead take.
Jumping the gun and throwing him out was her blunder, getting attacked by the dragon was none other than his own.

 

[onionskins]

I hate the typical story like this. I know the story is dogshit, but I still keep reading it because it’s the kind of story that makes your blood boil.

 

[Joirish1495]

read at novelupdates.com where it was linked for a while. couldn't personally read it to 100 chapters because it got so bad. in the 20s the story explicitly goes that sasha will not take responsibility and in the 80s haise gets publicly humiliated (gathering to honor her contributions, yet he never received any acknowledgement like the ex party does) and coerced to work for her.
https://www.novelupdates.com/series...-and-eventually-becomes-the-worlds-strongest/

Yeup! No matter what the mc in this one is meant to be tortured through out it, then theres this fucking weird girl boss bullshit when Sasha is just taking credit through the whole story. Get ready for the phrase "you're just jealous" or "you're just angry because they started doing better without you"

 

[Joirish1495]

Defend against what? You didnt make any point.
You just sobbed about how its all her fault and she should have been better for the 5th time even though you have been repeatedly told why thats a braindead take.
Jumping the gun and throwing him out was her blunder, getting attacked by the dragon was none other than his own.

Sasha was adjascently responsible for the dragon due to her being ignorant of the area. Sasha outright rand away to do a mission after he was hospitalized from the dragon, wasnt there for his recovery, and wasnt there for his adjustment to missing an eye. She also never apologized until it was I think a year later. Genuinely the entire relationship burned down because of her ignorance and inaction.

 

[Kampfarsch]

Sasha was adjascently responsible for the dragon due to her being ignorant of the area. Sasha outright rand away to do a mission after he was hospitalized from the dragon, wasnt there for his recovery, and wasnt there for his adjustment to missing an eye. She also never apologized until it was I think a year later. Genuinely the entire relationship burned down because of her ignorance and inaction.

You people sound more butthurt than him

 

[Niviik]

I think you make a good point about the Guild being dumb, yes. I do think Sasha being A-rank at the time should have maybe been in-the-know about stuff like an actual dragon showing up in an ordinarily safe region, but if the Guild is telling nobody, then she wouldn't know, either.
She's still a terrible person for all that she's done since that point to Haise, including letting her party continue to abuse and belittle / mock him to the present time (as far as the novelization goes), but that single point wasn't directly her fault.

Haise seeing it that way, makes sense as well, though. And his reasoning for writing her off and wanting nothing to do with her is founded because of everything that happened before and since that point (because whether or not she "was worried about him", she still just kicked him out for being weak instead of trying to find a way to keep her childhood friend in the party in a different capacity).

I just think that it is clear that Sasha, while she has been a complete jerk in the "how" she kicked him out of the party, did this to make sure he won't die during one of their missions. She wouldn't have told him to go there if she thought that it would have been dangerous for him. And she knows that at his level he can't even handle a few goblins, and Haise knows this as well and he also thought he could go there, gather the herbs and get some more money than what he usually does. So everybody thought that this region was safe.

On the other hand, the Guild exists to gather relevant informations and spread it to all the people concerned asap. How come the Guild knew that a safe region is now inhabitated by a dragon and did not give a notice on the information board and put posts on the roads leading to this region saying "Dragon 1km away. Turn around if you're not a A-rank party or above." Every body should be in the know of such informations, not just high rank parties, precisely because they are not strong enough to fight a dragon.

I'm not defending Sasha and her party for the rest. But this point is on the Guild.

 

[Joirish1495]

You people sound more butthurt than him

Ah thats because in the story he forgives her almost immediately even though later on she steals legitimately all of his recognition and watches as he's made fun of. Someone has to angry about her bullshit and the author seems hell bent on no one actually will.

 

[Raeandra]

It's the latter, actually.

Spoiler

The party isn't nice, at all. Reynolds just wants to bend Sasha over, as does the Priestess. They actively created the issues, sabotaged Hyce from the get go, and caused many of the problems. They never face any consequences, even after Sasha learns about this. She keeps them around, and they keep being "her harem" so to speak. In fact the MC gets humiliated, put down, and forced back into a position where they can keep abusing him.

Spoiler

So bitch would rather have harem of shitty people than zero harem, got it.

 

[Dzrian]

Funny thing is, this story (the webnovel) has JP reader's comments below it for each chapter and they shit on this direction as well. Which is something they RARELY do (openly anyway). Literally nobody likes her and everyone thinks their reconciliation feels forced (it is)

I really hope that one day, one of these people would just end up making their own story. Inspired by this, but willing to do better than this author ever did. Or atleast have the author realize his stupidity. At least make the manga do it better.(I doubt)

 

[Alzu]

Believe me, even the Japanese readers agree with you. They shit on her in EVERY SINGLE CHAPTER published if she has yet another glazing from everyone around her for absolutely no reason. It's fascinating to witness. Never seen such a collective hate for a female lead since maybe Chizuru who's author, funnily enough, also in love with their character.

How does the author not cave in to the backlash? Goddamn, the more I read the spoilers, the more I'm less incline to read the story. I'm hoping the manga changes it up for the better, but I'm having my doubts.