Why has my draft been rejected?

[_Nonoko-chan_]

I believe I am doing something wrong, however, I fail to undesrtand what exactly.

The draft is for the title "NINE STONES" from the author "Samuel Spano". It's an Italian comic so I thought that might be the problem, but I've seen other Italian comics on the website.

Before submitting the draft, the "Your draft must have at least one cover matching its original language." warning popped up, but I have read it's just a bug. I submitted it anyway but it was rejected.

(I cannot contact support via Discord for a number of reasons, so I came here instead.)

I checked everything was as it should be (since I don't want to get banned for submitting an invalid draft twice) but I still couldn't find the error, so I'll quote the guidelines below.

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Do not create entries for:

• Western comics (e.g. Marvel), I interprete the comic is not a "western" since it's similar to others published with the original language being Italian, Spanish, etc., but I may be wrong.
• Comics you made yourself without first getting permission from a staff member (on Discord), I am not the author.
• Duplicates of an already existing title (Search for it first), I looked it up but I couldn't find it.

General:

• At least 1 cover must be in the language of origin of the title. This is the bug I mentioned earlier. Both are marked as Italian, though the original cover is in English (the title is in english and there's nothing else other than the author's name).
• If your role allows you to pick the main cover, use that of the latest volume, unless it either doesn't fit the overall art style or theme of the title or has major spoilers. I only added one cover, the latest from the third and last book, though I can add all of the covers if necessary (three main ones, the alternate versions and the "issue number x" ones).
• You may only create a duplicate entry for the official and fan colored version of a series. Not a duplicate entry.
• Attempting to create troll/spam entries will result in permissions being revoked. Zero intention to create a troll entrie.

Cover file(s) requirements and limits:

• A cover can be at most (10000 x 10000) pixels.
• Portrait orientation covers are preferred whenever possible.
• Max file size per image is 20 MB.
• Supported image formats are JPEG, PNG, and GIF.

Everything in order here.

Furthermore:

• Added a retail site (Amazon, though it only allows to add ".com" and most of the comics are on ".it" from Italy) band the Official English site (tapas).
• There's only one title (that I know of) so no alternate titles.
• The English synopsis is copied from the tapas official publication, and the Italian and Spanish ones have been translated by me. (https://tapas.io/series/NINE-STONES/info)

I can't think of anything else I might have missed out but I'd be glad if someone could point it out to me so I could correct it right away.
Thank you very much in advance.

 

[HelperHand]

Well, not sure, and the mods are not around at the moment but be aware that, western comics drawn in a manga styles need explicit mod approval to be added into the site, like the works from Senukin or Ramia-Yana (from previous request the authors ask themselves)

 

[_Nonoko-chan_]

Well, not sure, and the mods are not around at the moment but be aware that, western comics drawn in a manga styles need explicit mod approval to be added into the site, like the works from Senukin or Ramia-Yana (from previous request the authors ask themselves)

Oh, I see. That's reasonble, thanks! Should I then ask somewhere else specifically or is this post enough as an approval request?

 

[HelperHand]

@_Nonoko-chan_ in general the mods are more active on Discord, so you will receive an answer fast there, I don't remember who it was but there is one specific mod that grants the approval or rejects this type of request, so check around the channels there

 

[_Nonoko-chan_]

@_Nonoko-chan_ in general the mods are more active on Discord, so you will receive an answer fast there, I don't remember who it was but there is one specific mod that grants the approval or rejects this type of request, so check around the channels there

Okay, I'll do that and see how it goes, thanks!

 

[Angry_Panda]

Just to double check - you're uploading a scanlation and not an official translation, right?

 

[_Nonoko-chan_]

Just to double check - you're uploading a scanlation and not an official translation, right?

Yes, that's right. I am planning to upload it in English and in Spanish. The original is in Italian and translated to English by the author, but the ending is not online, neither in English nor in Italian, and the physical comics are only in Italian (I bought them).

 

[Angry_Panda]

A bit unclear on what you're trying to post - my apologies.

The original is [...] translated to English by the author

This would not be allowed on site. However, if you did your own translation and typeset it into cleaned scans of the Italian original, you should be okay.

The other possibility is that the comic may have been deemed 'not manga-ish enough' by a mod - looking at the images that come up in a quick search, I'd say it's on the edge subjectively. Kind of hard to draw a clear line on something like this.

 

[_Nonoko-chan_]

A bit unclear on what you're trying to post - my apologies.

No, no, I am the one to apologize, I always struggle to explain myself. I meant the comic is translated to Englsh, however, the ending is not. It is only available if you purchase the comics or subscribe to the artist's patreon, but even so, the ending is in Italian, not in English. So I'm the one who translated it, cleaned the scans (I scanned it too as well as I could) and typeseted it, as you said.

[...] the comic may have been deemed 'not manga-ish enough' by a mod - [...] Kind of hard to draw a clear line on something like this.

I agree, in the end this is up to the mods to decide, I would understand if they rejected it though.

 

[Manko-sensei]

For some reason that warning keep showing up even with the right cover uploaded and leads to the first submission to be rejected, besides contacting them you can submit a new draft and hope this time gets approved.

 

[_Nonoko-chan_]

[...] besides contacting them you can submit a new draft and hope this time gets approved.

Thanks, I'll do that. I haven't done it yet because I thought sending too many drafts for the same title may be a reason for getting banned/punished.

 

[Manko-sensei]

Thanks, I'll do that. I haven't done it yet because I thought sending too many drafts for the same title may be a reason for getting banned/punished.

Everything within a reasonable amount, a SECOND one falls within that range as it is not unusual the first one gets rejected. Now, it must be properly done.

 

[_Nonoko-chan_]

Everything within a reasonable amount, a SECOND one falls within that range as it is not unusual the first one gets rejected. Now, it must be properly done.

That's good to know. Then I'll redo the draft and submit it. I think everything's in order with the previous one, so I'll pretty much copy-paste it, unless there's something you think I should change.

 

[Manko-sensei]

That's good to know. Then I'll redo the draft and submit it. I think everything's in order with the previous one, so I'll pretty much copy-paste it, unless there's something you think I should change.

The only thing I could think about is adding the original Italian page as "Raw" (even if it doesn't have a reader, basically the publisher's one or the author's), but other than that it's just waiting for the mods to read this thread.

 

[_Nonoko-chan_]

The only thing I could think about is adding the original Italian page as "Raw" (even if it doesn't have a reader, basically the publisher's one or the author's), but other than that it's just waiting for the mods to read this thread.

I have searched thoroughly but I haven't been able to find such thing as "Raw" other than the artist's Patreon (the comic's posted both in English and in Italian) and on purchase websites like Amazon.

Here are the links I found that fit the best:
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/samuelspano/posts

Italian Amazon: https://www.amazon.it/-/en/dp/B0BN5GQFRM?binding=paperback&ref=dbs_dp_sirpi

Cosmo Editorial (Italian too): https://www.editorialecosmo.it/product/product-20636/

 

[Manko-sensei]

Cosmo Editorial (Italian too): https://www.editorialecosmo.it/product/product-20636/

This is the one I'd use for the Raw link, even if it doesn't have a comic preview (or sample pages) it has the publisher that officially distributes it in Italian, title + description, metadata such as ISBN and you can keep track of the rest of the series. This is also the most helpful link to check the autenticity of the work and any scanlations that may be uploaded under its name. Of course, you can use the covers here for the original cover of each volume, but I assume you're already doing that.

 

[_Nonoko-chan_]

Of course, you can use the covers here for the original cover of each volume, but I assume you're already doing that.

That's right, though I was planning on only uploading the ending of the comic (around 30 pages, four episodes) and some explicit parts along the comic that aren't available on the tapas version (the most complete one), only on the physical comics and Patreon.
So I wouldn't really need a lot of covers (unless it's mandatory to include them).

I'm also a little confused on how to proceed with the covers since the comic has 8 issues, but they were later compiled into 3 volumes. (The explicit parts I mentioned are present only in the volumes but not in the issues, or vice versa, I can't remember. It's a bit of a pain.)

There are also cover variants for each issue/volume, but I guess I can choose any of the covers from a particular issue/volume, for that issue/volume, if that makes sense.


Sorry for so many questions, I'm relatively new to all these things so I'd like to inform myself as much as possible to know how to proceed from now on.

(By the way, I'll add the link as you suggested, thank you!)

 

[Manko-sensei]

You can add as many covers you want as long they're official (even after the entry is created, so no rush in that sense). I'd put the ones from the compilated volumes in case there's some kind of conflict with the labelling, the rest can be added to the translated chapters as you see fit. What matters now is getting the draft approved, so don't worry that much about the covers.

 

[_Nonoko-chan_]

You can add as many covers you want as long they're official (even after the entry is created, so no rush in that sense). I'd put the ones from the compilated volumes in case there's some kind of conflict with the labelling, the rest can be added to the translated chapters as you see fit. What matters now is getting the draft approved, so don't worry that much about the covers.

Thanks, I'll do that. For now I've submitted the draft so all that's left now is to wait.

 

[kouyo]

From what I can see, this comic appears to be more western inspired, purely based on the paneling and how the speech bubbles are stylized in each page.

As for the "mod approval", these usually come from the authors themselves, so it'll probably get turned down as, apparently, you're not the author. And because of the clear stylistic difference I mentioned at the beginning.

If you still want to try, DM any moderator via Discord (for convenience and faster communication) with a detailed explanation of why you want to add this title to the site.