Yurige no Heroine ni Tensei Shita Ore, Nazeka Are ga Haeta Mama desu - Ch. 2

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Notsomeone: "I don't know why I expected more from a bigot anyway.
" but when I am making points and the other side calling me retard, it is kinda hard to keep taking stuff seriously"
me: BUT YOU KEEP MAKING RETARDED POINTS, SO STOP BEING A RETARD, RETARD
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dooble, pink_rabbit, notsomeone, you guys are BEYOND fucking retarded. It's kinda unreal you are not even addressing the argument at hand.
Also Lol dOmOlz: NO HERR OFFICIER. I'M NOT HIDING ZE JEWISH JOKES UNDER ZE FLOOR BOARDZ
Dooble:
ignores entire argument, strawmans it and proceeds to end it with:
"You probably think I'm like angry saying this, but I'm not."
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Dooble, I can smell your Karen haircut wafting through the computer screen. It's sad.



" "Gender politics" is just us existing. Bruh, just if you didn't want to see a trans person, don't read manga tagged as "crossdressing" and find something else to read "
" Wow....a complete mischaracterization of what was being said. I cannot believe it. I'm totally surprised." I said with complete sarcasm. Isn't there anyone that isn't a fucking retard?
 
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You could try actually engaging with and responding to what I said, but that would require you to first understand what I said, which seems to be entirely beyond your ability.

You're welcome to prove me wrong if you'd like, if you understood what I said it shouldn't be hard to re-state it in your own words, but you seem like the type to resort to petty insults and shaming because you lack the maturity to handle disagreement.
I engaged with and responded to your comment, and your answer to our disagreement was to call me brazenly ignorant and an animal without countering any of my points. So yeah, I insulted you, because that's what you're worth.
 
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I engaged with and responded to your comment, and your answer to our disagreement was to call me brazenly ignorant and an animal without countering any of my points. So yeah, I insulted you, because that's what you're worth.
I'm already well aware you believe that's what happened. Here's a thought experiment: Do you think I used the phrase "completely fail to understand what other people are saying" because you substantially engaged with what I actually said, or do you think it's more likely I used that phrasing because you badly misunderstood what I was saying?

If you understood the substance of what I was saying, it would be trivial to rephrase it. Instead, you did what I predicted you would do if you were incapable of understanding: You resorted to petty insults and shaming.
 
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I'm already well aware you believe that's what happened. Here's a thought experiment: Do you think I used the phrase "completely fail to understand what other people are saying" because you substantially engaged with what I actually said, or do you think it's more likely I used that phrasing because you badly misunderstood what I was saying?

If you understood the substance of what I was saying, it would be trivial to rephrase it. Instead, you did what I predicted you would do if you were incapable of understanding: You resorted to petty insults and shaming.
You resorted to petty insults and shaming first. Are you sure I am the one misunderstanding something here? I'll humor you one last time:
Your point was that gender dysphoria is a mental illness, that supporting it is wrong, and that the medical-industrial complex helps maintain the gender-affirmative narrative because it's lucrative.
That's a shallow overview of the situation; it's grossly based on right-wing anti-queer rhetoric, and it ignores trans people's free will to do with their bodies as they please. It also excludes trans people's opinions on the matter of their own mental health, and it ignores that the rich elite that controls the medical-industrial complex is the same rich elite that pushes around the anti-queer rhetoric.
 
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My oh my,what a massive bashing of genders.

What I will say in this whole mess is that it's 2025,and the crazies who hid under the rainbow flag are now being ousted from their cover due to the badwill they've caused,decades of good will burnt to a crisp in a few short years,with the only real possible recourse availble being the distinct separation between LGB and QT(plus the rest of the premium gay),since the majority of the most vocal crazies hid under the trans side.

Meanwhile,despite how bad it actually is to be in Japan,they've managed to make good stories about any n' all topics,maintaining a strong amount of goodwill,even when the nation hasn't budged as much as the West did.

And this comic right here is golden levels of funny,since it is just a dude who liked a lesbian game became a girlier looking dude in said game,having to navigate these pure maidens who want a good look at his magnum dong,and has nothing to do with him trying to become actually become a girl,just his wishful thinking failing in the worst way possible.

But only six chapters(18 due to how they were chopped)?...damn.
 
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You could try actually engaging with and responding to what I said, but that would require you to first understand what I said, which seems to be entirely beyond your ability.

You're welcome to prove me wrong if you'd like, if you understood what I said it shouldn't be hard to re-state it in your own words, but you seem like the type to resort to petty insults and shaming because you lack the maturity to handle disagreement.
dude joked about suicide and then said being trans was "psychosis" and actually expects any engagement with it besides "you're a fucking dumbass" go back to rowling's twitter page and sip some kool aid like the rest of them man this is pathetic
 
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Something that may be incomprehensible to those believing me a transphobe, is that I'm not actually anti-trans. Or more specifically, I'm not against the idea of someone wanting to switch genders.

The problem is the current lack of technology to make a perfect switch. One can go through all kinds of treatments and surgeries to imitate the opposite sex, but at the end of the day the DNA is the same. The processes inside the body didn't change to what is natural for the opposite sex, they were simply altered, and most of the time with imperfect results.

The worst part is that if someone who transitioned ends up changing their mind after the fact and wants to go back to who they were before, the consequences of transitioning are almost irreversible.

One of the worst of the possible consequences is being unable to have a biological child of your own. I understand not everyone wants kids, but those who do and end up unable to have them are absolutely devastated.

So my problem with the current push to make it easy for everyone, including children, to transition is the fact that the process is simply not there yet.

The rhetoric online and in media is one of acceptance, pushing people only thinking casually about transitioning into actually going through with it.

Practically never are the negative consequences brought up by those pushing for people to transition. Everything's perfect on the other side of the rainbow.

It wouldn't be an issue if one could perfectly swap bodies like in a game's character creator, but we live in reality, where such is not possible. Yet.

So, I bully people who are considering transitioning using facts and logic, in the hopes that they're dissuaded from casually doing something that may ruin their lives forever.

And for those who already transitioned... You've made your bed, I sincerely hope you like lying in it.
 
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Something that may be incomprehensible to those believing me a transphobe, is that I'm not actually anti-trans. Or more specifically, I'm not against the idea of someone wanting to switch genders.

The problem is the current lack of technology to make a perfect switch. One can go through all kinds of treatments and surgeries to imitate the opposite sex, but at the end of the day the DNA is the same. The processes inside the body didn't change to what is natural for the opposite sex, they were simply altered, and most of the time with imperfect results.

The worst part is that if someone who transitioned ends up changing their mind after the fact and wants to go back to who they were before, the consequences of transitioning are almost irreversible.

One of the worst of the possible consequences is being unable to have a biological child of your own. I understand not everyone wants kids, but those who do and end up unable to have them are absolutely devastated.

So my problem with the current push to make it easy for everyone, including children, to transition is the fact that the process is simply not there yet.

The rhetoric online and in media is one of acceptance, pushing people only thinking casually about transitioning into actually going through with it.

Practically never are the negative consequences brought up by those pushing for people to transition. Everything's perfect on the other side of the rainbow.

It wouldn't be an issue if one could perfectly swap bodies like in a game's character creator, but we live in reality, where such is not possible. Yet.

So, I bully people who are considering transitioning using facts and logic, in the hopes that they're dissuaded from casually doing something that may ruin their lives forever.

And for those who already transitioned... You've made your bed, I sincerely hope you like lying in it.
"Because antidepressants won't completely cure everyone's depression symptoms, because literal magic that makes your brain totally neurotypical hasn't been invented yet, and in some relatively rare cases it can actually make symptoms worse, I like to go around harassing people considering starting medicine. It's for their own good though, promise"

I'm on hormone replacement therapy. I got it through a notoriously permissive provider, one that, to quote some politicians "gives it out like candy". I met with a nurse practitioner, not an endocrinologist, since people love to throw nurses under the bus. It still started with a consultation that went over what is and isn't possible, the variance in results, the fact it isn't the miracle cure I might wish it was and the importance of setting realistic expectations, the possibility of side effects, and what changes are or aren't reversible and to what extents. I then made an informed decision on what I preferred because humans do, in fact, have the right to make their own decisions about their bodies.

It really is not that hard to understand this, but you don't want to engage with the facts of what trans healthcare looks like in good faith, you just state the facts are some shit you made up because it was rhetorically convenient for you, or you believe some other people who did that because you are fundamentally incurious and judge things merely by how well they comport with your own uninformed opinion.

You make arbitrary impossible standards and point to the fact the process has downsides and risks and go "See, it shouldn't happen at all" instead of you know making like a real human in any real context at all whatsoever, and comparing the options that actually do exist. This is like if someone was debating moving to another country and you said "Well it's not Heaven so you shouldn't go. Also fuck you (I am hurting you in the hopes you stop considering moving because that helps you)". And it really doesn't matter if this is a calculated way to hide your power level as you make your transphobic arguments because you hate us for no real reason, or if you really believe this worldview because you decided to trust a chain of lies that ultimately goes back to people who hate us for no real reason, because if you had a shred, a single shred of the ability and inclination to be better than this, you wouldn't read manga about trans characters and go into the comments to argue with trans people that the characters who explicitly say they wish their bodies were differently sexed and they could live as another gender aren't trans. You probably think I'm like angry saying this, but I'm not. You truly are pathetic and laughable and an utterly transparent dumbass and I can't bring myself to really care about you when there are people who will actually say I should be shot with their whole chest, y'know?

But like you people just keep talking and eventually you just wanna write up the "You aren't nearly as smart as you think you are" thing, y'know? Anyways I'm going to go talk to my two girlfriends now. (And no, they don't smoke weed.) (Is anyone here even going to get that joke?)

In actually worthwhile things, you get that kind of reception like in the post-credits, kurisu, because you are a cool person who puts in a lot of effort to make LGBT stuff visible in this place that's sorta otherwise a cesspool about this shit. People trust you 'cuz you deserve to be trusted! Pschooooo.
 
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Something that may be incomprehensible to those believing me a transphobe, is that I'm not actually anti-trans. Or more specifically, I'm not against the idea of someone wanting to switch genders.
Sorry buddy but that makes you a transphobe. Talking like that is the same way people talk about gays like "I am not homophobic. Gay people are allowed to do anything they want. I am not against it" while not supporting the LGBT

The problem is the current lack of technology to make a perfect switch. One can go through all kinds of treatments and surgeries to imitate the opposite sex, but at the end of the day the DNA is the same. The processes inside the body didn't change to what is natural for the opposite sex, they were simply altered, and most of the time with imperfect results.
Okay then why not donate and help to make the technology better? Most trans people seem happy with their operations and some don't do bottom surgery.

The worst part is that if someone who transitioned ends up changing their mind after the fact and wants to go back to who they were before, the consequences of transitioning are almost irreversible.
Doubt it. Less than 1% regret transition. Even if they regret it or not; it's THEIR life. You literally have the username "human" in your username meaning you should know that humans make mistakes, learn, and grow. Do not tell trans people they will regret when we won't.

One of the worst of the possible consequences is being unable to have a biological child of your own. I understand not everyone wants kids, but those who do and end up unable to have them are absolutely devastated.
I don't want kids but I would love them regardless. Thinking the worst idea to come to your mind is your child becoming trans is basically showing you are a transphobe. You are afraid of your child becoming trans. Exactly what people say today about gay people in how they don't mind people being gay unless its their own.

Besides, once your kid turns 18 is their life. It's THEIR choice. To want to parent other people's children who aren't your own shows you want control. Yes, you are a transphobe.

So my problem with the current push to make it easy for everyone, including children, to transition is the fact that the process is simply not there yet.
No, its about the fear of your future child becoming trans.

The rhetoric online and in media is one of acceptance, pushing people only thinking casually about transitioning into actually going through with it.
No one is casually pushing the idea of becoming trans. Actually transitioning costs a shit ton of money. That's why the LGBT are often in debt. No one can afford anything with health care in many countries. I wish I could easily walk into a doctor's room and get a transition but you gotta have years of gender therapy and that is if you afford it.

Practically never are the negative consequences brought up by those pushing for people to transition. Everything's perfect on the other side of the rainbow.
I can tell you this: I wouldn't want my worst enemy to have a future becoming trans because of how much hardships and discrimination you live in being trans. No one wants to live in that type of discrimination. Those who are trans know there is nothing perfect on either side but at least they can be happy knowing they are living as the person they are.

You can as well face consequences in any gender such as being cis and trans.

It wouldn't be an issue if one could perfectly swap bodies like in a game's character creator, but we live in reality, where such is not possible. Yet.
Okay then do it. Give money to help us trans people so we can easily change our gender.

So, I bully people who are considering transitioning using facts and logic, in the hopes that they're dissuaded from casually doing something that may ruin their lives forever.
You sound proud bullying others? I wouldn't want to know my father in the past bullied others for wanting to live the life they want when it has nothing to do with his own. You are a giant bully, sir. A big bully that doesn't know what compassion is. I don't know how anyone can proudly speak saying they bully others. It's gross and disgusting to bully.

And for those who already transitioned... You've made your bed, I sincerely hope you like lying in it.

I can promise you that many of us are happy to be in a bed that makes us happy. A bed that is made and suited for the gender we want to be. We deserve happiness as those who are cis and no-good bullies like you.
 
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Something that may be incomprehensible to those believing me a transphobe, is that I'm not actually anti-trans. Or more specifically, I'm not against the idea of someone wanting to switch genders.

The problem is the current lack of technology to make a perfect switch. One can go through all kinds of treatments and surgeries to imitate the opposite sex, but at the end of the day the DNA is the same. The processes inside the body didn't change to what is natural for the opposite sex, they were simply altered, and most of the time with imperfect results.

The worst part is that if someone who transitioned ends up changing their mind after the fact and wants to go back to who they were before, the consequences of transitioning are almost irreversible.

One of the worst of the possible consequences is being unable to have a biological child of your own. I understand not everyone wants kids, but those who do and end up unable to have them are absolutely devastated.

So my problem with the current push to make it easy for everyone, including children, to transition is the fact that the process is simply not there yet.

The rhetoric online and in media is one of acceptance, pushing people only thinking casually about transitioning into actually going through with it.

Practically never are the negative consequences brought up by those pushing for people to transition. Everything's perfect on the other side of the rainbow.

It wouldn't be an issue if one could perfectly swap bodies like in a game's character creator, but we live in reality, where such is not possible. Yet.

So, I bully people who are considering transitioning using facts and logic, in the hopes that they're dissuaded from casually doing something that may ruin their lives forever.

And for those who already transitioned... You've made your bed, I sincerely hope you like lying in it.
Sorry, but first of all, why would trans people care what your idea of a "perfect trans" is? Look, people with gender dysphoria were born and will continue to be born. You see a lot of them nowadays because the phenomenon gained a name, and a community where these people could be heard was built, that's all. So, even if they can't change their fucking DNA (we probably never will be) why shouldn't they strive to be as close to what they believe themselves to be as possible?
If they made their mind it's not like you're going to be the one affected, it's them.

And there's no push for anyone to transition, there isn't a narrative trying to convince people to change genders, the push the trans (and the whole LGBTQ) community is doing is to be accepted into society.

And it is at the minimum preposterous that you consider an expert yourself on transitioning when you're not even trans. Don't
You think they read about this stuff? Don't you think trans people study themselves the ups and downs of a life-changing, incredibly expensive surgery?
And even if we pretend that everything you said was somehow right, would the right course of action be bullying this people? Wouldn't it be trying to talk to them?

From my point of view, you seem like a guy who has no familiarity with real trans people. You saw them on the internet, and you created your own opinion of them through right-wing discourse and echo-chambers. You all treat trans people as if they were a mindless, crazed, fanatic mob. You lot can be better than that.
 
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The problem is the current lack of technology to make a perfect switch.

One of the worst of the possible consequences is being unable to have a biological child of your own. I understand not everyone wants kids, but those who do and end up unable to have them are absolutely devastated.

Practically never are the negative consequences brought up by those pushing for people to transition. Everything's perfect on the other side of the rainbow.

And for those who already transitioned... You've made your bed, I sincerely hope you like lying in it.
so since a perfect switch isn't possible, we shouldn't bother with any amount of switch? guess kids that don't get 100% in their schoolwork should be dropping out too...

well I mean, lots of cis people deal with infertility too. and on my side it's honestly no different. I care less about my children being biological, but I wish I could carry them myself. whether I transitioned or not, I lost the lottery on that one to begin with so I, at the very least, am not losing anything

I don't know where you're looking, but yea i wouldnt expect negatives to exist on the surface. but the negatives show up everywhere. laser hair removal isn't covered under healthcare in my region, and that shit's expensive. the waitlists for vocal training are abysmal. my parents are shit about it more often than not, and on that note everyone talks about how families disown a lot of us, what do you mean no one talks about the negatives?

I do like laying in this bed. it's the best bed I've ever had~
 
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I hope these "aww hell naw why you so suicidal [slur] you mentally ill mfer" aren't repressed queer folk cuz holy fuck it isn't just a miserable way of living but a real fucking hurdle of the "incel to lgbtqiaa+" journey many have.

Oh, and also please stop engaging these fuckers on their "Uhm, yas, but ze jews are filth my stats say yas". That's how the notion of classifying certain groups of people as subhuman got soo popular recently. Just ignore them.
 
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