Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi o Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 44 - An Ordinary Day with Someone at Rock Bottom

[peortega1]

Which is why Hikari's not really buying it as a sincere heartfelt apology that would move her to go and talk to him.

The girl who PUNCHED Yuu and used the violence against him doesn´t have any right to this high ground how is she was a queen or a princess
Hikari is the last person here with right to wanting being the unreachable girl
Other proof you are a jerk with zero media literacy

 

[UdenEmpati]

I mean you mentioned it. The one time he was proactive for once in his life it ended in this mess. Now people expect him to make the first move lmao

At this point I question if he should even try with Hikari.

If he's going to shut down and flee at the first sign of conflict, that doesn't bode well for any relationship with someone with a force of will like hers.
And how happy would Hikari be, with someone that passive and unwilling to invest himself in strengthening things between them?

Maybe they've both ultimately dodged a bullet with all of this going down the way it has.

 

[Dvalkerz]

I know he is an asshole, but if him date them both, I wont mad

 

[KiARume]

She's hadling it well I think?

 

[peortega1]

If he's going to shut down and flee at the first sign of conflict

HE DIDN´T FLEE NOR SHUT DOWN. He wrote her an invitation to talk and she ghosted and avoided him. You are basically requesting for a stalker, for a Christian Grey, in this point.

someone with a force of will like hers.

Hikari and "force of will" in the same phrase are a contradiction even biological. She is even more passive and coward than Yuu himself. But she is a girl, in her case is "good".

And how happy would Hikari be, with someone that passive and unwilling to invest himself in strengthening things between them?

He is disposed to invest himself in strengthening things, just in his passive way, as we can saw him with both Aya and Haru. He is a follower, not a leader.
Other mysandric poster who hates girls who takes the lead and submissive boys who doesn´t take the lead
Role reversal, role reversal, role reversal, role reversal...

 

[peortega1]

HARU SHOWED MORE FORCE OF WILL IN TWO CHAPTERS THAN HIKARI IN THE ENTIRE SERIES

 

[wozbond]

This time, Yuu can be the one to step and prove that he can grow as a person (and a character) by taking action for once.

Taking action for once? The guy just CONFESSED, which is more than Hikari ever managed. If Hikari doesn't want a relationship with him, she should just say so instead of whining about Yuu daring to have a prior relationship that didn't involve her.

 

[HellJester]

Also, looks like Chapter 12.4 just came out. It's also 7 pages. Does anyone know if this came out at the same time as Chapter 44 which might explain why 44 was so short?

 

[HellJester]

The girl who PUNCHED Yuu and used the violence against him doesn´t have any right to this high ground how is she was a queen or a princess
Hikari is the last person here with right to wanting being the unreachable girl
Other proof you are a jerk with zero media literacy

You know it's ok to disagree with people without insulting them and calling them names, right? We can disagree about interpretations without having to resort to stuff like this.

Let's try and show each other a little grace.

 

[peortega1]

You know it's ok to disagree with people without insulting them and calling them names, right? We can disagree about interpretations without having to resort to stuff like this.

Let's try and show each other a little grace.

She called me "jerk" in the previous thread, I am only returning her treat for me
Anyway, my point is still there. Hikari lost the right from the moment she punched Yuu. He at least sent an invitation to talk and she ghosted him and avoided him. She had to, at least, sent a message to him asking for explanations
And this is definitely the position of Maruto the author, and I am back with him. This is the reason why I accuse her -and maybe you- to have media literacy problems

 

[story645]

If Hikari doesn't want a relationship with him, she should just say so instead of whining about Yuu daring to have a prior relationship that didn't involve her.

That's not what she said though, she said she was upset at his lying. She never said she didn't want a relationship with him, even told him she loved him.

You know it's ok to disagree with people without insulting them and calling them names, right?

Yeah I kinda messed up in the 43 threads
by kinda calling port a jerk after he started up again w/ the insults. It was inappropriate to phrase it that way, I was just frustrated that port had slipped back into the insults after a string of posts where he had shown restraint.

 

[HellJester]

Both peortega1 and story645 participate a lot in these threads and I appreciate both of y'alls insights as you tend to think about things I don't or think about things differently.

How about y'all just consider the jerk matter as even and we move on? We've already had some people leave and no longer participate because of rude behavior and I'd rather not see anyone else go. Let's try to keep things welcoming.

 

[peortega1]

If you want to talk to him, go talk to him.

Or at least send a message inviting him to talk, instead being actively avoiding him

Though, I wonder what excuse they're gonna use to make Yuu not sound like a blatant liar for saying he's loved her since long ago and never gave up on her while also sleeping with and being in a relationship with Yami.

Seki said it in chapter 43: "you are a master of accidental two-timing, Yuu-senpai". Also Yuu himself says in chapter 38 he really tried to forget Hikari and he FAILED. In other words, Yami ghosting/break-up launched him to return to the arms of Hikari.
Basically Yuu ended loving both Hikari and Yami. Harem ending making more and more a real game option.

I know he apologized for being a liar, but I want to see if they actually pull through with it in the story, or if it's going to turn into a "You thought this was the truth, but actually.." type of story.

He definitely lied about the "dead phone", so, he is right to apologize it.

 

[GennArc]

This manga-WN difference confirms once again that this is carried hard by the author. Yom's art is already nothing special, and he's been sick (hopefully not), lazy or busy with something else since March. At this point I would rather have WN chapters released on weekly basis without manga chapters at all, though I understand that would kill all discussions.

I don't like what Yuu texted. It seems he's gotten the wrong idea in that he shouldn't have confessed.

He might've meant that he was sorry for confessing before telling her the whole truth, just decided not to be verbose.
But that makes for an interesting hook where Hikari suspects his confession was not truly heartfelt.

 

[peortega1]

Yeah I kinda messed up in the 44 threads by kinda calling port a jerk after he started up again w/ the insults. It was inappropriate to phrase it that way, I was just frustrated that port had slipped back into the insults after a string of posts where he had shown restraint.

Not, you called me jerk first. I am only said you doesn´t have media literacy, that is true.
Also, I could say the same from you, you were improving and making better and restraint posts and appreciating and understanding more Yuu role in the series, just to return to your usual mysandria.
Even if Hikari is upset because she thinks Yuu is still lying, she has to ask explanations to him instead crying in her room. He definitely invited her to talk with those LINE messages and is her who are actively avoiding any possibility to encounter with him. Anyway, he never denied his feelings for her, he just apologized because he knew he chose a very bad moment to confess it.

 

[HellJester]

This manga-WN difference confirms once again that this is carried hard by the author. Yom's art is already nothing special, and he's been sick (hopefully not), lazy or busy with something else since March. At this point I would rather have WN chapters released on weekly basis without manga chapters at all, though I understand that would kill all discussions.

He might've meant that he was sorry for confessing before telling her the whole truth, just decided not to be verbose.
But that makes for an interesting hook where Hikari suspects he might not have meant it.

First of all, how dare you say Yom's art is nothing special .

Secondly, I didn't even consider that Yuu might have meant he was sorry for confessing before telling Hikari the whole truth. Lol maybe port is right that I don't have media literacy ahahaha.

 

[peortega1]

This manga-WN difference confirms once again that this is carried hard by the author.

This. Maruto is who are really working here and Yom is acting more an assistant of Maruto than a co-author. If we got an anime adaptation, definitely they will have to use the light novel and not the manga as base.
Also, I believe Yom dislikes Hikari too. If you notice carefully, Hikari chapters are always the more shorter. Yom definitely is more interested on Yami, Haru, Seki and even Yuu himself.

He might've meant that he was sorry for confessing before telling her the whole truth, just decided not to be verbose.

I mean, is a LINE message. He is inviting her to talk and we know he is open to talk because he did with Haru. She really wants an audio recording of 10 minutes of Yuu telling everything?

 

[UdenEmpati]

Taking action for once? The guy just CONFESSED, which is more than Hikari ever managed. If Hikari doesn't want a relationship with him, she should just say so instead of whining about Yuu daring to have a prior relationship that didn't involve her.

Where did Hikari whine about Yuu having a prior relationship?

Yuu confessing in a moment of panic was like him deciding he'd make a last-minute effort to pass super hard high school entrance exams in a one-sided attempt to get Hikari to notice him.

He did it out of desperation thinking only of his own situation, with no real prep on his part, and both times it blew up in his face. But instead of pushing through and trying something different, he just gives up and runs.

And that's what I mean. He's been in love witu Hikari since at least partway through middle school. But he was forever passive and self-deprecating and relegating himself to the sidelines by labeling himself "unworthy".

If he's going to make half-hearted attempts and then simply bail without pushing through, then his growth potential as a character is very much in danger of stagnating, because he's just repeating the same pattern of behavior.

 

[peortega1]

Secondly, I didn't even consider that Yuu might have meant he was sorry for confessing before telling Hikari the whole truth. Lol maybe port is right that I don't have media literacy ahahaha.

You anyway had some media literacy, not fully but you have something. And yes, part of Maruto plot is precisely always about a submissive boy getting a dommy girl who understands and guides him.
This is the reason why passive heroines never won in Maruto works and why he was so ruthless with Eriri in Saekano.
And as I said, Hikari definitely takes the lead even less than Yuu. But she is a girl, so, is "ok"

 

[UdenEmpati]

I didn't even consider that Yuu might have meant he was sorry for confessing before telling Hikari the whole truth. Lol maybe port is right that I don't have media literacy ahahaha.

I mean, Yuu himself doesn't elucidate.

I think part of the point of how it's presented is to be ambiguous, because it reinforces Yuu's character of "simply disengaging" and accepting without pushing back.

I read it as, he gives a vague "I'm sorry" because the act of simply apologizing is easier than having the full discussion for him, which is why he sends it over text and doesn't attempt to do so in-person.