Kiraware Majo to Karada ga Irekawatta Keredo, Watashi wa Kyou mo Genki ni Kurashiteimasu! - Vol. 5 Ch. 23

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the maids didnt choose where to keep her, the maids didnt choose what to feed her, the maids didnt choose what education shed get

yes they hate twins, but if your not going to keep the spare in acceptable condition theres no point having a spare, the legislators who decided they needed a spare also signed off on her being kept in a dungeon with the bare minimum food and education, thats ruins the entire point
Again - the original person asked "why did they treat her this badly". They went on to explain why it was dumb to do so, given Claudette's potential of being necessary should something happen to the "main princess" Marietta. You've stated the exact same thing the initial person did.

I merely responded to the initial question of "why did everyone treat Claudette this way", which, in-universe, was explained by their ingrained fear-based prejudice of "royal twins", due to the historical precedent established of warring candidates for the throne causing mass strife and death.

Of course the maids, and their noble/royal employers, were in the wrong, and even the one maid chastised the other for branding Claudette's face because of the issues involving her appearance, should her "spare" status suddenly become important.

But the abusive maid was acting that way because of the contextual circumstances revolving around what twins represented when born to royalty, and her frustrations at being made to care for someone who was seen as subhuman by her and everyone around them. It was a personal grievance made manifest through violence, but the chapter explains why she did all of this to Claudette.

Maybe the original person was asking rhetorically. But I still answered the question within the context of it being the in-universe justification on the part of the crown.
In no way am I saying they were justified, or even logical in doing so, and ultimately it simply serves to paint the Snewe kingdom as deeply troubled and sets up the coming conflict when Marietta eventually returns home, confronts Claudette and learns who she truly is and about the circumstances of her birth and upbringing, and then (presumably) her former kingdom itself.
 
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I don't think that kind of distinction mines any deep meaning from superstition and cruelty.

Doylist (reality/metatextual): Sadists and cultures beat on scapegoats instead of address core injustice, which makes them easy bad-guys to cheer against. We miss our own societal cruelty blind spots. Systemic abuse is an adornment to the sisters getting abused. Starvation made Claudette a worse pawn, but it fits the theme.
Watsonian (in-universe): A bunch of sadists scapegoating a little girl because thinking hard and power comfy. No one intervened because Claudette was a dirty secret who was expected to be murdered, and if Marietta died it's not like her identity had to be reused.

You were right about the fear-based prejudice but the central issue is logic (ethics and politics this time). People, especially the maids, felt benefits from abusing a child. Which made Claudette impossible to swap with her sister (which was probably unnecessary anyhow). There's not enough layers for it to matter that "we live in a society"; no maid sob-story, no historical deep dives, just systemic excuses for personal excess.

Not to say it doesn't work. The chapter made me crave more vengeance and revolution than I expect from the story. Claudette made some severe mistakes, she's probably going to lose her mentor too for max angst, and she's in a good position to be an antihero villainess. Down with the Empire. And the Snewe Kingdom. She should get her summoned dragon forging guillotines posthaste... assuming the guardian beast is loyal to her and she's not stewing for years on end again.
That's pretty much what I was getting at.
Maybe my initial mistake was assuming the original person who posed the question I'd answered, wasn't asking rhetorically. But I just gave my read on why, in-universe, Claudette was treated the way she was.
And we even see the second maid admonish the first when Claudette is branded with the iron. So it's clear that, despite her abuse and mistreatment, it was still presumed that Claudette was to not be excessively harmed - at least until it was revealed that we were at the point where Marietta was being introduced to her eventual betrothed, meaning Claudette had outlived her potential "usefulness".
So that would indicate that Claudette was seen as an eyesore that brought down the "standing" of those who were (in their view) forced to care for her, and that resentment became actual violence and abuse borne of those sentiments. But those resentments have their roots in the precedent of the 'bad omen' that is twins within the royal bloodline, which - "systemic excuses" or not - is what we're shown as their justification.
And that's the whole of my initial explanation. I do not condone what they did to Claudette, and I certainly don't think it makes logical sense to leave her malnourished and constantly injured/disfigured and (likely) ignorant to the things a princess should actually know. I merely responded to "why would they behave like this in-setting", and left everything else that didn't pertain to that, aside.

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To your last bit - I wonder if Claudette is going to be working, if not at odds with Marietta, then simply independently of her, and will rebuff Marietta's initial efforts at connection and reconciliation between them. Marietta is rather passive and gentle, and so while I suspect she will be very upset over what's happened to her twin sister, I also imagine that she would not want to resort to immediately burning the Snewe kingdom to the ground - her upbringing wasn't perfect, but she was happy and had loving parents in her memories, and would likely suffer some dissonance that those people could have treated their other daughter as they did.
So that poses a likely clash between them - Marietta wants to help Claudette heal, but Claudette's interested in revenge. I kinda think that the actual antagonists will be kingdoms and systems like the nobility, not necessarily individuals like the their royal parents.
But I am intrigued in how Marietta will navigate trying to fix things as she sees them broken, while Claudette (likely) tries to tear everything down, and chaos continues to unfold once the Swap is revealed and the Snewe kingdom, and their alliance borne of the marriage of their princess, begins to unravel underneath it all.
 
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Hope they both end up getting a happy end, maybe Marietta can take custody of Claudette or something (since Marietta's happy end will probably involve her getting her nobility back to be with Dee) so they can actually be together.
 
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huh. I was figuring the cast-off was literally thrown away to die and got scooped up by a mentor.

So she broke out after they decided to kill her.

Huh, losing her magic must be freaking her the fuck out, since it's what kept her safe for years.

Wonder if Dee's kingdom killed her mentor, and that's why she had no qualms at all about fucking the kingdom up while prepping her body swap ritual.
 
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What makes it STUPID was that the Civil War in question wasn't JUST because of the twins, my assumption is both twins DIED and the SURVIVORS chose to PUSH the "Twins were the problem" to cover up THEIR own accountability (OH the EVIL TWINS MIND CONTROL US into fighting and killing, we in NO WAY have ANY personal responsibility in that) and of COURSE the future Generation SOMEWHAT believe this to be TRUE like twats only "having reason" in the face of "benefits to themselves" meaning in truth they DON'T believe the CURSE part, it's just a convienance to EXCUSE their behavior.

Got to admit, I LOVE punching/horribly punishing idiots like that (I hate those who play WILLFUL ignorance/stupidity assuming it's my "you wouldn't punch someone with glasses would you" moment. Only YES, YES IF FUCK WILL PUNCH A FOOL WITH GLASSES ON, MAY THE SHARDS REMOVE YOUR EYES AS YOU SURE AS HELL AREN'T USING THEM ANYWAY FOOL!)
I bet it's the nobles who divided into factions to back one of the twins for their own gains. Then after the disastrous outcome, the survivors shift the blames to the twins to avoid the blames.
 
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I hope the calamity they all feared comes to pass and the whole kingdom falls. Gotta set the bar high so that even a small consolation of destroying the ruling class feels possible.
 
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I just came to the comment section to read some nice comments and yall out here writing essays
It is that deep but its not that deep bro
 
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I just came to the comment section to read some nice comments and yall out here writing essays
It is that deep but its not that deep bro
These sorts of comments remain my favorite parts of the Internet.

I also thought it was wild when I first discovered that other people engaged with stuff differently from me.
 
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The definition of an abomination is getting more retarded in each fantasy story at this point. We started with black hair and now its twins.
 
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Seriously why did they treat the "spare" this badly, it's just stupid. If something had happened to Marietta then they'd suddenly have to try and replace her with a malnourished sickly traumatized waif which isn't fooling anybody.
It's just shoujo style misery porn. There is usually no logic to it. Just suffering for the sake of it.
 
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Is the kingdom going to be destroyed in revenge, teaching them that letting them live was the wrong move?

Won't be the first to do that.
Or maybe if they were treated like living beings and raised with love? Like seriously, have them live apart from each other if it's that big of a deal, no need to kill one of them, sheesh.
 
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it's a dumb-ish answer, but I think the logic is fairly consistent.
In Snewe, twins are a literal abomination that has historically spelled doom for the nation due to the warring siblings slaughtering armies and civilians for the right to the throne.
Anyone with proximity to royalty, after enough time/systemic conditioning of that fear, would see royal twins as vile and repugnant, from the same sort of place all "ignorant prejudice" is born - i.e. dehumanizing the "target" and treating them thusly, because their existence is by (their) definition a sin and spells certain doom for the state.

So the maids doing that to Claudette personally, and the royal family in general, is a direct result of that ingrained fear-based prejudice, and the disgust and mistreatment is the manifestation of that.

Not saying it's correct- I personally hope those two maids were blown to smithereens in the blast, and that the one that branded Claudette was conscious to the end. But that sort of abhorrent behavior is actually kind of believable when you have a historical precedent for "othering" someone and then abusing them because of "what" they represent.
Yes I get that. I just mean the person who got Claudette's life spared as a spare was an idiot for not making sure this very obvious thing didn't happen. If Marietta had died somehow then Snewe kingdom would have wound up destroyed for daring to try and pass a slums brat as a princess in the marriage negotiation because that's what Claudette looks like from her mistreatment.
 
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Yes I get that. I just mean the person who got Claudette's life spared as a spare was an idiot for not making sure this very obvious thing didn't happen. If Marietta had died somehow then Snewe kingdom would have wound up destroyed for daring to try and pass a slums brat as a princess in the marriage negotiation because that's what Claudette looks like from her mistreatment.
oh yeah, it's stupid as fuck on their part.

But then, prejudice and abuse almost always is, especially when born of superstition like the "twins = civil war" thing, and especially when it's two princesses who would marry into other kingdoms, and not princes who would ostensibly inherent Snewe's crown.

The logic in-world is at least consistent, if deranged and ultimately self-defeating. But that's why the kingdom of Snewe and its nobility & institutions are likely to be the real antagonists of Marietta's story (and likely Claudette's story, unless I miss my guess), and Claudette will be, as another user here predicted, more of an antiheroine-type role that serves as a partial foil to Marietta, focused on "revenge/retribution" where Marietta might want more peaceful/non-violent reforms and confrontation with the Crown.

And their abject abuse of Claudette, from the removed rulings of the nobility above to the intimate violence bestowed upon her by those in her immediate vicinity, are meant to be abhorrent in the eyes of us readers to show that the "wicked witch" is not the actual (or at least main) "villain" of the story - via eliciting a strong emotional reaction to her treatment that is clearly nonsensical from a rational perspective.
 
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I bet it's the nobles who divided into factions to back one of the twins for their own gains. Then after the disastrous outcome, the survivors shift the blames to the twins to avoid the blames.
Indeed, that's the OBVIOUS fact, especially if they gained NOTHING out of the affair (nothing to gain, EVERYTHING to lose) and didn't want THAT to be apart of their "legacy" so they HAD to blame someone! Hell was it even the Twin Princes who caused trouble in the first place, and not the REAL troublemakers causing trouble "in their name" then having THE BALLS to pin it all on them! (I'd believe that, people make the mistake that being a FACTION LEADER means you have control, when no some can disobey and then PLAY they were "just following orders" since they're playing on the ASSUMPTION Faction leaders are ALL KNOWING so they PUSH the blame of THEIR actions on the faction leader who knew NOTHING about or even GAVE the okay! Their successor have no REASON to doubt them....because otherwise they would be the SUCCESSORS to CLOWNS.....funny how they only accomplished being BIGGER clowns LOL)
 
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Yes I get that. I just mean the person who got Claudette's life spared as a spare was an idiot for not making sure this very obvious thing didn't happen. If Marietta had died somehow then Snewe kingdom would have wound up destroyed for daring to try and pass a slums brat as a princess in the marriage negotiation because that's what Claudette looks like from her mistreatment.
Yep, but then they never figured that placing a VICIOUS moron in charge of her MIGHT bite them in the ass (you know the one who SCAR said spare's face and then ASSUMED she'd be REWARDED if she killed her WITHOUT permission cause she assumed since Marietta was "accepted" must mean the SPARE Claudette was no longer needed. If she never appears again or any fate for her isn't illustrated, I like to think she was BADLY maimed from Claudette explosion FAR FAR worse then the scar she left her and was LET GO with SOME money to keep her quiet that EASILY ran out, she was stupid to THREATEN her knowledge of Claudette existence though "they set her straight" AKA they tortured and beat her FAR WORSE then she ever did to Claudette and just AVOIDING a "tongue trauma" meant she's spending the rest of her days a homeless hag SCARED she'll be TAKEN again for ANOTHER LESSON if she dares bring Claudette up again! Serves her right)

It only WORKED OUT for them because Claudette chose to be BITTER elsewhere till of course she found a way to SWITCH with Marietta, assuming she'd be "going onto easy street" while her sister would be "doomed to a horrid life" because the fact she could have possibly HEALED the scar shows she was TOO BITTER, and became WORSE then the MAID who treated her horribly blaming "everyone not involved" the locals for her misery! Only she FREED Marietta from what she THOUGHT she was obligated to do, and got a NASTY dose of "turns out the OTHER SIDE wasn't as GLAMOURS as she thought it was! Even her BITTERNESS to Marietta came down to thinking she was the lucky one and REFUSING to see her as just as much a victim as herself! Yes she wasn't abused, but she WAS gaslighted and taken advantage of, and as she found out, LIED TO her entire life as she NEVER would have discovered Claudette's existence.....if Claudette in a PETTY attempt at "REVENGE" didn't switch places

Life sucked, but I wonder if her MENTOR tried to help her move on with her own life, and after passing away, Claudette got worse and worse till she thought up "her perfect revenge against the Kingdom AND Marietta only she didn't accomplish SHIT. Only ADDING to her misery then taking it away!
 
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I understand the idea of keeping a spare royalty in case anything happens, but I don't get why they have to be so cruel about it. Why not put her in some mansion out in the boonies? Honestly, that's a story I'd read.

FMC is a the lonely tomboy adventurer noble who grew up in the far countryside near endless forests, frozen mountains and locales filled with monsters. One day, the royal family arrived and it's revealed that her sister is the princess but is currently cursed into a coma, so they need her to take her place until they can break the curse. Cue hijinks of her trying to fit in, act as her prim-and-proper princess sister while making sure all unrelated parties don't figure out her real identity (and maybe the betrothed prince-fiancee who was originally partnered with the princess as part of a political marriage ends up falling in true love with the twin tomboy disguised sister).
 

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