Aliens - Vol. 1 Ch. 11 - Alien Sex Friend

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That question is the core of this manga’s plot. That and the tension that will arise as the MC forms an emotional connection with the robot. Aoi (the robot) is illegal both on earth as a sex bot and in space as a self aware computer.

My only real complaint about the plot is how emotionally disconnected Ami is. She is so apathetic it is almost painful.
I suspect the painfullness of Ami's disconnect with everything is going to be integral to the plot alongside Aoi's "humanity" as a nonhuman sapient machine - but likely played as a long-game thing.

She's already hidden Aoi from her bosses. That right there shows she's not wholly unfeeling, even if she rationalizes it as a "pain in the ass" - because ostensibly all she'd have to do is report her and they'd show up and deal with Aoi themselves.

And...well she is an alien and apparently is operating on a different moral framework than humans would. So that very annoyance might be extra apt, but also intended to create that extra layer of disparity for the reader, and potentially make any shift in her sensibilities all the more rewarding if/when it happens.
 
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That author page is odd to me. When I'm reading a yuri manga that doesn't have an explicit relationship like this one, I'm not judging it based on how "precious" it is, I'm judging it based on whether they actually end up kissing or not. Maybe it's a cultural difference, Japanese yuri fans seem big into the "preciousness" thing, but I would be annoyed if this manga I started reading because it was labeled "girl's love" turned out to just be yuri bait, even if the author's thinking something like, "Blame the publisher, I never intended them to be lesbians, this is just a fun story about an alien and a robot being real close gal pals!"
Does yuri require romance between girls?

Or is that just one personal (and potentially contemporary) interpretation of it by people outside of the native Japanese audience/authorship?
 
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I see I see, translating a parody(?) of the term by having it be slightly different :thumbsup:
Also, good work on translating the lyrics, I’ve only had to work on translating lyrics once and that was a nightmare
 
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Does yuri require romance between girls?

Or is that just one personal (and potentially contemporary) interpretation of it by people outside of the native Japanese audience/authorship?
Short answer is it's personal enough we can leave it to vibes. Anything saphic physically, emotionally, or vaguely aesthetically has been called yuri. If it's not physically, emotionally, or aesthetically satisfying then it may not be good as yuri. It could be argued its not fair to readers or communities to use the label if it's not good yuri but there's no line.

There's going to be some nuances to "yuri" due to the term becoming popularized by more ecchi and explicit media, but I think it's practical to treat the modern use (post Sailor Moon) as related to works and aesthetic that is "lesbian" or "saphic". That's denotation but has a giant loophole. Art is ludicrously broad and unless your language has an academy dictating word meanings, genres can be very loosely defined. It's easier to treat everyone's definition as correct if they overlap enough, so, like how most words develop connotation.

It's fair that the author considered an interaction a running gag but not saphic enough at a publishing and sales level because there's no "preciousness" of emotional content. So the author demonstrated a view of yuri that would've been mocked in online spaces in the past, but it's kinda flattering in an odd way? If persistent ecchi titilation isn't yuri to them, they're oddly transcendent using evolved language and inattentive to how publishers and art sites label it. In a way their definition as an artist and producer in a market economy was wrong, but it's a pretty sensible and kinda respectful definition used by a consumer who isn't all that mindful of lesbians but understands queer vibes matter to the community. They didn't think of it as a genre to honestly attach to their work, publishers saw an audience, no harm no foul.

More cynically, the author didn't make the scifi stand out enough, nor the slice of life, so what was most salient for putting the book on shelves for reader type was that it's lewd often. Yuri by process of elimination. That's the biggest divider for audience attention because the story ain't literature, and even dense SF that has yuri has strong pull to be placed in yuri sales categories. Ghost in the Shell and some western SF with lesbian protagonists don't spend this much time on saphic teases. Unless queer interactions is a background element, like implied but not repeatedly physical or focal in ways that may wind up audience, publishers silo it off to queer genre shelves (if publishers even distribute it).

Word havoc gets worse since it's genre and aesthetic, and creatives can go gonzo with that. We give abstract concepts arbitrary boundaries to ignore the extremes. Enough teases can also be yuri. Two curvy rocks leaning on each other... two bottles in a meme... a wistful fan gazing at an empty bench... this too is yuri. Maybe. Not all rocks, bottles, and benches. The only territory to actively rule out is outright queerbaiting, but that too is post-hoc reclassification.

And this series isn't queerbaiting. It's soft porn. Historically yuri.

So the discourse went as insane as any other art genre that got lots of attention, and we're best off not obsessing on abstract words. "Yuri ≈ Saphic + Not Male Focus" is good enough for me.
 
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Guy who handed her a memory gun had the priceless opportunity to say "by the way, why did you need a second one?". The whole point of memory wiping is to be able to gaslight your coworkers and he flubbed it
 
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Guy who handed her a memory gun had the priceless opportunity to say "by the way, why did you need a second one?". The whole point of memory wiping is to be able to gaslight your coworkers and he flubbed it
I imagine these sorta jokes were so common and causing so much trouble that the memory gun handling protocol was amended to explicitly forbid gaslighting your coworkers
 
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People discussing yuri but I think the real question is, is this manga sold / promoted as Girl's Love? As romance? Cause if not then maybe the tag should be removed cause it'll probably get nowhere

Wouldn't be the first time something gets tagged as GL and then gets nowhere because it never was, example, Liar Satsuki
 
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People discussing yuri but I think the real question is, is this manga sold / promoted as Girl's Love? As romance? Cause if not then maybe the tag should be removed cause it'll probably get nowhere

Wouldn't be the first time something gets tagged as GL and then gets nowhere because it never was, example, Liar Satsuki
As far as I'm aware (maybe I'm wrong, correct me if I am) the term "girl's love" is used pretty much interchangeably with "yuri" in Japan, without any additional romantic connotation. Really, the same is true here in the west - there's a reason MD doesn't have a separate yuri tag.

(The issue is, as others have said, perceptions of yuri/GL in the west are more focused on romance than in Japan, which includes close female relationships under that umbrella - leading to a bunch of titles that are seen by western readers as "yuri-bait" when in fact they always aligned closely with Japanese perceptions of yuri.)

Now, personally I wouldn't be entirely opposed to removing the tag anyway, considering the mangaka is also uneasy about it being applied to their work. If more people call for it to be removed I may go ahead and do so.
 
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Does yuri require romance between girls?

Or is that just one personal (and potentially contemporary) interpretation of it by people outside of the native Japanese audience/authorship?
IMO, yes. In the past they had the excuse that homophobia was so prevalent that implying the main characters are gay was the best they could do, but thankfully today that excuse doesn't exist and the "yuri bait" genre seems to be dying out because of it. I just don't see the point in a comic that devotes half its energy towards hinting and teasing at a romance that never happens. Is it a romance manga or not? If not, why do we have so many panels devoted to romantic moments and skinship, and why is it labeled "girl's love" instead of "girl's friendship"?
 
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That question is the core of this manga’s plot. That and the tension that will arise as the MC forms an emotional connection with the robot. Aoi (the robot) is illegal both on earth as a sex bot and in space as a self aware computer.

My only real complaint about the plot is how emotionally disconnected Ami is. She is so apathetic it is almost painful.
Yeah the alien is so fucking stupid that it completely makes sense that she was so shit at her job. Her stupid pet fuckin' destroys 17 drones and she doesn't make ANY deal out of it... Nor does she bother to cleanup the mess from HER FUCKING SPACESHIP CRASHING INTO A HOUSE!
 
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As far as I'm aware (maybe I'm wrong, correct me if I am) the term "girl's love" is used pretty much interchangeably with "yuri" in Japan, without any additional romantic connotation. Really, the same is true here in the west - there's a reason MD doesn't have a separate yuri tag.

(The issue is, as others have said, perceptions of yuri/GL in the west are more focused on romance than in Japan, which includes close female relationships under that umbrella - leading to a bunch of titles that are seen by western readers as "yuri-bait" when in fact they always aligned closely with Japanese perceptions of yuri.)

Now, personally I wouldn't be entirely opposed to removing the tag anyway, considering the mangaka is also uneasy about it being applied to their work. If more people call for it to be removed I may go ahead and do so.
As far as I know over the years Yuri became more and more about romance between women in Japan but because there's some few people who use it for non romance too at some point Yuri mangakas started using Girl's Love too to make the distinction

At least I never heard of Girl's Love being used for anything but explicitly romance between women

Isn't it funny how het romance and Yaoi basically never have this issue? It's always considered romance without any doubt, only Yuri there's this non romance variation to some people where simply two girls being super close is also Yuri

Like, just look at any work or magazine that is sold as Girl's Love, they're all 100% without aby doubt always romance between women in some way, nobody questions it unlike Yuri

Edit: Also, pretty sure Girl's Love started because other Asian countries created it since Yuri isn't a term in their language, Japanese mangakas simply adopted it because it's 100% meant for romance so there's no doubt what their work is about

Although I could be wrong on that part

Either way Yuri and Girl's Love is generally interchangeable because 99% of the people who uses them mean romance, people who uses Yuri for non romance are the minority as far as I know

Like I said it's not without reason they started to use Girl's Love
 
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Short answer is it's personal enough we can leave it to vibes. Anything saphic physically, emotionally, or vaguely aesthetically has been called yuri. If it's not physically, emotionally, or aesthetically satisfying then it may not be good as yuri. It could be argued its not fair to readers or communities to use the label if it's not good yuri but there's no line.

There's going to be some nuances to "yuri" due to the term becoming popularized by more ecchi and explicit media, but I think it's practical to treat the modern use (post Sailor Moon) as related to works and aesthetic that is "lesbian" or "saphic". That's denotation but has a giant loophole. Art is ludicrously broad and unless your language has an academy dictating word meanings, genres can be very loosely defined. It's easier to treat everyone's definition as correct if they overlap enough, so, like how most words develop connotation.

It's fair that the author considered an interaction a running gag but not saphic enough at a publishing and sales level because there's no "preciousness" of emotional content. So the author demonstrated a view of yuri that would've been mocked in online spaces in the past, but it's kinda flattering in an odd way? If persistent ecchi titilation isn't yuri to them, they're oddly transcendent using evolved language and inattentive to how publishers and art sites label it. In a way their definition as an artist and producer in a market economy was wrong, but it's a pretty sensible and kinda respectful definition used by a consumer who isn't all that mindful of lesbians but understands queer vibes matter to the community. They didn't think of it as a genre to honestly attach to their work, publishers saw an audience, no harm no foul.

More cynically, the author didn't make the scifi stand out enough, nor the slice of life, so what was most salient for putting the book on shelves for reader type was that it's lewd often. Yuri by process of elimination. That's the biggest divider for audience attention because the story ain't literature, and even dense SF that has yuri has strong pull to be placed in yuri sales categories. Ghost in the Shell and some western SF with lesbian protagonists don't spend this much time on saphic teases. Unless queer interactions is a background element, like implied but not repeatedly physical or focal in ways that may wind up audience, publishers silo it off to queer genre shelves (if publishers even distribute it).

Word havoc gets worse since it's genre and aesthetic, and creatives can go gonzo with that. We give abstract concepts arbitrary boundaries to ignore the extremes. Enough teases can also be yuri. Two curvy rocks leaning on each other... two bottles in a meme... a wistful fan gazing at an empty bench... this too is yuri. Maybe. Not all rocks, bottles, and benches. The only territory to actively rule out is outright queerbaiting, but that too is post-hoc reclassification.

And this series isn't queerbaiting. It's soft porn. Historically yuri.

So the discourse went as insane as any other art genre that got lots of attention, and we're best off not obsessing on abstract words. "Yuri ≈ Saphic + Not Male Focus" is good enough for me.
insanely informative post about something as abstract and nebulous as histo-cultural interpretations of terminology lacking any centralized authoritative denotation.

That is to say, I kinda figured that was the case, even if I couldn't have articulated it as such, simply based off what I've gleaned via online osmosis while being on the periphery of such discussions in spaces such as this.
But I am grateful you took the time to type that all out, illuminating as it was. I tend toward Descriptivisim in language, and though it's an entirely different beast altogether when you start working through languages beyond your own (I say "you" generally), before even factoring in how the term is mutable even there, plus over time - so yeah.

"vibes" feels like the only correct answer, and that one will effectively know yuri when they see it, except when it ain't. The hope being that there's just enough consensus that it doesn't get confusing as fuck when trying to recommend titles to others or determine where it'd be found in a store.
 
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That question is the core of this manga’s plot. That and the tension that will arise as the MC forms an emotional connection with the robot. Aoi (the robot) is illegal both on earth as a sex bot and in space as a self aware computer.

My only real complaint about the plot is how emotionally disconnected Ami is. She is so apathetic it is almost painful.

I agree with that complaint. When the MC is that annoying, then it just gets harder and harder to read. Hopefully it get's better
 
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That author page is odd to me. When I'm reading a yuri manga that doesn't have an explicit relationship like this one, I'm not judging it based on how "precious" it is, I'm judging it based on whether they actually end up kissing or not. Maybe it's a cultural difference, Japanese yuri fans seem big into the "preciousness" thing, but I would be annoyed if this manga I started reading because it was labeled "girl's love" turned out to just be yuri bait, even if the author's thinking something like, "Blame the publisher, I never intended them to be lesbians, this is just a fun story about an alien and a robot being real close gal pals!"
The "girl's love" tag could just be a mistake on mangadex if the author never intended it to be yuri.
 
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The "girl's love" tag could just be a mistake on mangadex if the author never intended it to be yuri.
As the author mentioned, the manga is officially marketed as yuri, and the word is used in most of the blurbs/synopses I've seen - I would assume whoever originally added the title to mangadex simply went off those.
 
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...no so what your saying is it I perceive it as Yuri then it is Yuri and since I perceive it so it is indeed Yuri, it has come off as Yuri too me and shall be declared Yuri by me
Stand proud, it may be Yuri
Although it depends on the intended direction of future volumes, if the vibes aline it'll be Yuri then right? Yes yes I see, baited I was not
Unlike SOME "Yuri"

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