Kounai Ren'ai - Vol. 3 Ch. 13

[Kaguya-Sama]

we follow specific character. her circle will be gayer than THE AVARAGE ratio

She is a teacher You know whom are the teacher surrounded by in her everyday life? Yep, students and other teachers.

 

[UdenEmpati]

gay as in man-to-man relationship.

I'd imagine they could work a BL story into this, sure. No reason to believe it couldn't happen, anyway

 

[Rinno7]

HELLO?! POLICE?! WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS SCHOOL, BRO!🫠🫠🫠🫠

 

[BCS]

I actually thought for half a second that Nozaki would turn the corner, at least a bit.

I'm glad she didn't. The trope of completely changing someone's mind in one heartfelt conversation needs to die.

 

[ShallowContrarian]

I was expecting a rapey nonce teacher arc eventually but not as the third one, goddamn

 

[Saki-movement]

Now there's a predator on the loose??

 

[salthejackman]

I have been wondering about this for so long but like, are Japanese people allergic to the word "LIKE"?

Istg sooo many fictional couples in this industry, keep throwing around the word "LOVE" to describe their feelings for someone they just met like 2 days, it really kills my reading enjoyment cause I cant take you serious if you think you "love" a person who you don't even know their middle name

 

[frayee304]

I have been wondering about this for so long but like, are Japanese people allergic to the word "LIKE"?

Istg sooo many fictional couples in this industry, keep throwing around the word "LOVE" to describe their feelings for someone they just met like 2 days, it really kills my reading enjoyment cause I cant take you serious if you think you "love" a person who you don't even know their middle name

Are you really saying that now for a language that has so many ways of expressing their "love" through words/verbal communications?
Also, who are we to judge someone's love at first sight?

 

[faaresemo]

Nami what the heck
telling Kaede to never cut ties with you again, but didn't you say that if anyone found out about the two of you then things would be over? make up your mind girl

 

[Manko-sensei]

Finally a female teacher who's after her students! They're really scarce in manga, you either need to dive into hentai or see other teenagers cosplay as such (like every other romcom).

 

[UdenEmpati]

I'm glad she didn't. The trope of completely changing someone's mind in one heartfelt conversation needs to die.

Same, honestly. I also hope her story continues onward from here, and that all of the characters we've seen for each arc, both "central" and "supporting", make appearances and show that their own lives have progressed even off-screen.
The fact that the student who confessed to Kaede is the one talking with Nozaki at the end, gives me hope that this might be the case. So Nozaki trying to work past her broken heart would be the play in my mind, rather than some unbelievable "everything worked out" conclusion.

 

[PixelCrow12]

Can we not have an arc about a fucking pedophile? I'll give the manga benefit of the doubt for now but if it ends up supporting the teacher x student pair I'm dropping it instantly

 

[salthejackman]

a language that has so many ways of expressing their "love" through words/verbal communications

Girl, 90% of them always only use the word "LOVE" for their feelings after meeting a person for 2 days, wdym

Also, who are we to judge someone's love at first sight?

Can't judge a nonsensical "love" because of woke!
All I was saying that they could say "like", it's just way more convincing lol

 

[Goodbyefrankenstein]

I really need more context on the initial rejection between the main couple, just cant get fully on board yet. Miyamoto rejecting Kaede initially, telling her that if their relationship becomes known shes breaking up with her, it just feels toxic and without further context im really struggling to like Miyamoto at all.

Same but tbh even if she turns out not toxic atp I think id still not like her anyway because I like Kaede a lot so I'm biased on any wrongs done to my girl

 

[Goodbyefrankenstein]

This manga really is dickhead central bro. Learning love is especially hard when everyone is a fucking narcissist.

That's teenagers for ya

 

[trapesiumz]

the whole school needs to he purged so much drama without a single kid being made im so disappointed

 

[SrNevik]

I really need more context on the initial rejection between the main couple, just cant get fully on board yet. Miyamoto rejecting Kaede initially, telling her that if their relationship becomes known shes breaking up with her, it just feels toxic and without further context im really struggling to like Miyamoto at all.

That's not what happened though. Kaede confesses, Nami rejects her, then Kaede immediately ghosts her, literally running away from Nami preventing any further discussions from then on. Nami clearly continues to date women during the time they are a part and has explained how confused and lonely she was after Kaede suddenly distanced herself. She even seems a bit traumatized by that period of separation. Neither of them felt good about not being together in the end.

Both Nami and Kaede share regrets about back then and Nami is quoted as wondering why she didn't realize how much she cared for Kaede when they were teens. Remember Nami was a teen who was suddenly confessed to by her friend, who then ghosted her. Nami rejecting her for whatever reason is fine. Kaede isn't owed a relationship and it's not a red flag to say "No." They then meet 8 years later, after neither has been able to forget the other and have been happily together since. It's clear they both missed each other during those 8 years; each of them have said this. What's toxic about that?

Spoiler: More Discussion

Nami feels like she has a dry sense of humor and can be blunt but is also clearly very thoughtful and quick thinking. She figured out the issue with this student and how to navigate the problem very fast and naturally. She also showed a lot of empathy, awareness and introspection.

To me it seems clear neither her or Kaede did anything intentionally wrong in the past, meaning intending to harm one another. It seems they weren't right for each other romantically back then but many things obviously can change after 8 years.

Her later having a GF before being back with Kaede is potentially another useful hint. Maybe she wasn't aware of herself back then, or maybe Kaede was the one "feeding goldfishes" before maturing a bit more. Lots of possibilities. Also notice how good Nami was at mentioning her love life without implicating herself in the way Kaede did earlier in the series. It's not unreal for her to make clear how direly important it is not to out themselves to the school.

 

[Brobobo]

That's not what happened though. Kaede confesses, Nami rejects her, then Kaede immediately ghosts her, literally running away from Nami preventing any further discussions from then on. Nami clearly continues to date women during the time they are a part and has explained how confused and lonely she was after Kaede suddenly distanced herself. She even seems a bit traumatized by that period of separation. Neither of them felt good about not being together in the end.

Both Nami and Kaede share regrets about back then and Nami is quoted as wondering why she didn't realize how much she cared for Kaede when they were teens. Remember Nami was a teen who was suddenly confessed to by her friend, who then ghosted her. Nami rejecting her for whatever reason is fine. Kaede isn't owed a relationship and it's not a red flag to say "No." They then meet 8 years later, after neither has been able to forget the other and have been happily together since. It's clear they both missed each other during those 8 years; each of them have said this. What's toxic about that?

Spoiler: More Discussion

Nami feels like she has a dry sense of humor and can be blunt but is also clearly very thoughtful and quick thinking. She figured out the issue with this student and how to navigate the problem very fast and naturally. She also showed a lot of empathy, awareness and introspection.

To me it seems clear neither her or Kaede did anything intentionally wrong in the past, meaning intending to harm one another. It seems they weren't right for each other romantically back then but many things obviously can change after 8 years.

Her later having a GF before being back with Kaede is potentially another useful hint. Maybe she wasn't aware of herself back then, or maybe Kaede was the one "feeding goldfishes" before maturing a bit more. Lots of possibilities. Also notice how good Nami was at mentioning her love life without implicating herself in the way Kaede did earlier in the series. It's not unreal for her to make clear how direly important it is not to out themselves to the school.

If it was just the initial rejection then sure there would absolutely be no toxic flags, its combined with the threat of a break up that made me iffy. Hence why i said without more context it feels kinda toxic, im not judging harshly because its clear that the manga is slowly building up their past and drip feeding us context.
Also, deliberately distancing yourself from someone who rejected you is... pretty standard and understandable, if Nami had been dead set on discussing it she probably could have forced a conversation, but it seemed like a firm rejection, they were teenagers and shit was messy, so i dont put that much stock on that, its 90% the threat of a break up that makes it messy NOW.

 

[SrNevik]

If it was just the initial rejection then sure there would absolutely be no toxic flags, its combined with the threat of a break up that made me iffy. Hence why i said without more context it feels kinda toxic, im not judging harshly because its clear that the manga is slowly building up their past and drip feeding us context.
Also, deliberately distancing yourself from someone who rejected you is... pretty standard and understandable, if Nami had been dead set on discussing it she probably could have forced a conversation, but it seemed like a firm rejection, they were teenagers and shit was messy, so i dont put that much stock on that, its 90% the threat of a break up that makes it messy NOW.

They were good friends before the ghosting, so I don't think that's a normal thing to do, especially when Kaede says she literally would run from Nami whenever Nami tried talking with her after that. But yeah it's all teenage stuff, nothing major either way.

As for the "threat," I don't take that seriously and we've learned a lot more about their dynamics together, relationship and how Nami tends to speak since then. Nami feels like she has a dry sense of humor and can be blunt but is also clearly very thoughtful and in love with Kaede.

She was just as lost after their separation and recently showed worry about ever having distance from Nami again. That doesn't sound like someone who would be serious about breaking up for any reason. I think she just understood how the seriousness of the tightrope Kaede would need to do to handle that student and wanted to remind her how important it was to handle things with care. She also knows how Kaede tends to be. Beyond that they've been great together.

 

[EchoGirl]

Yikes. Tho I half expected someone to post that "nice" gif from South Park xD /shot but I can imagine that relationship blowing up at least

pretty realistic with our world sexual orientation ratio.

I imagine it'd prolly be more yuri if it was an all girls school

gay as in man-to-man relationship.

A lot of ppl say gay as an overall lgbt umbrella bc some straight ppl feel uncomfortable saying queer bc it's kinda still debated whether some ppl consider it as a slur and all that

I have been wondering about this for so long but like, are Japanese people allergic to the word "LIKE"

Tbf they are teens but it's possible they said suki which ppl translate interchangeably/idk for sure but feels like it'd be doubtful they (cept for the main teachers) said Aishiteru vs suki da yo )