Senki Survival Saga: Isekai no Unmei wo Kaketa Mujintou Fujun Iseikouyuu - Ch. 31 - Obstacles Always Appear Right Before The Finish Line

[Carcer]

Imagine if the squid also has a human form and reverts after the battle with naga XD

Some folks thought this is what was going to happen with the boar, but that didn't pan out. I'm gonna speculate this baby kraken is going to end up food too.

 

[Kurovah]

oh no she flies now

 

[radstylix]

Imagine if the squid also has a human form and reverts after the battle with naga XD

Non-sense.

It can regen, therefore infinite takoyaki.

 

[radstylix]

So you do know how a human-sized object could fly?

Please be "not that deep" as in you have an idea.

It's already unrealistic for humans to have wings, so I'm describing how to optimize humanoid flight with less magic as buoyancy to reduce the weight and practical position of wings, believable and looks cool, yeah gotta keep the look.

Feel free to agree/disagree, but don't be vague.

I feel like...damn! Aren't "Magic" and "Sci-fi" such a vague excuse how impractical stuff came to be, can't we fix that with explanation some how?

According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way that a bee angel should be able to fly. Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground. The bee angel, of course, flies anyways. Because bees angel don't care what humans think is impossible.”​

But seriously man, I like discussing things, but this might be the wrong place for in-depth discussions about that.

On the other hand, it might be more appropriate if you brought this up in a monstergirl series with harpies and other winged-humanoids. I especially like in MonMusu that harpies are lighter and smaller (and flatter) so they can fly. Humanoid needs ridiculously large wingspans and the muscles for it though.

 

[albirew]

lucky bastard MC, and i hate you black box censored

 

[finalm]

I believed everyone can fly with a style, if the wish is strong enough, life always finds the way.

When you talk about hot air...I think it's a good idea too! Let's add body temperature into the mix, from what I checked. Heating a pure hydrogen balloon without introducing an oxidizer (like oxygen) will not cause it to burn or explode.

That is a step up for sure. But I don't wanna do math right now, so I kinda don't know what size I'm looking at combining with wings and what else maybe lacking for a proper humanoid flight.

Just gotta believe in and keep looking for the possibility! Or failure that matter.

Also, the tail is for stability controls, and it's beautiful. I like long and sturdy ones by the by.

Guess I'm going to rain on your parade again . A heated hydrogen baloon? That's a deliciously dangerous idea, because in order to prevent it from mixing with oxygen you'd need to seal if up, unlike a normal hot air baloon. This means you've no effective way to heat the gas without exposing whatever material you use to the same heat, making it degrade, probably in mid air. So you're basically strapping some miniature hindenburgs to yourself, with a detonation device ready and waiting for an inevitable leak .

As fun as that sounds, it's not realy practical - heating hydrogen up to 200 degrees celsius would only get you about 3% more lift than at regular ambient temperatures. Higher temperatures complicate things even further and give diminishing returns. Hydrogen at "room temperature" is already pretty much the best you can get in an atmosphere like ours.

Oh, you meant it like that. Well it's kind of the wrong shape to do any stabilizing. Check out at how an airplane's vertical stabilizer looks like. Her's is round, making air just flow around it virtually unimpeded. It would help if it were shaped like a fish's tail fin, basically more surface area, less volume and therefore less mass.

 

[normalman]

necessary scenes
unnecessary black boxes

 

[Hoezell]

New island LESGOOOOOOOOO

 

[radstylix]

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Biggest multiverse villain

 

[Rogulair]

Guess I'm going to rain on your parade again . A heated hydrogen baloon? That's a deliciously dangerous idea, because in order to prevent it from mixing with oxygen you'd need to seal if up, unlike a normal hot air baloon. This means you've no effective way to heat the gas without exposing whatever material you use to the same heat, making it degrade, probably in mid air. So you're basically strapping some miniature hindenburgs to yourself, with a detonation device ready and waiting for an inevitable leak .

As fun as that sounds, it's not realy practical - heating hydrogen up to 200 degrees celsius would only get you about 3% more lift than at regular ambient temperatures. Higher temperatures complicate things even further and give diminishing returns. Hydrogen at "room temperature" is already pretty much the best you can get in an atmosphere like ours.

Oh, you meant it like that. Well it's kind of the wrong shape to do any stabilizing. Check out at how an airplane's vertical stabilizer looks like. Her's is round, making air just flow around it virtually unimpeded. It would help if it were shaped like a fish's tail fin, basically more surface area, less volume and therefore less mass.

Sound disastrously fun indeed, with constant cell repair like proper living being I can see no rain getting in! Wait until a control leaks jet of flame coming out and cooked stuff! We can have something like a two chamber lung, one just for expelling fire specifically to not let the whole thing explode inside the body.

I hope we can have more tools for living organisms to defy gravity more than what we have to brute force it most of the time on Earth, I'm looking at abilities to swimming in the air level, but I don't think we can have the name yet.

About the tail, It'll be in practical shape soon enough if the one using it gets the feel and min-maxing for ways to use it. They can have some thing like a foldable frill some where at the tip or along the root of the tail, or maybe it's not needed as much.

 

[Rogulair]

According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way that a bee angel should be able to fly. Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground. The bee angel, of course, flies anyways. Because bees angel don't care what humans think is impossible.”​

But seriously man, I like discussing things, but this might be the wrong place for in-depth discussions about that.

On the other hand, it might be more appropriate if you brought this up in a monstergirl series with harpies and other winged-humanoids. I especially like in MonMusu that harpies are lighter and smaller (and flatter) so they can fly. Humanoid needs ridiculously large wingspans and the muscles for it though.

I just had an urge to discuss about it here man , I did not expect much input in the first place to be honest, it's more like a monologue for me to list what I know about the matter of humanoid flighting with random people.

And then you came along! I did not know about how a bumble bee's size and wingspan ratio has been compared with an airplane! Thanks, man! So how specialized muscle stroke the wings is matter a lot.

In MonMusu, harpy is simply a bird with human upper body. So I didn't think much of it, but this shade me a new light on it.

 

[RougeGrail]

Thank you for the panel

 

[JosebaZilarte]

Those strange clouds are clearly a Chekhov's gun. They probably hide a volcano or some kind of installation.

 

[Xonthelon]

Those black bars are atrocious. In all other panels hair and tights do their job well enough, so why?!

Considering that gender swapping takes a lot of mana, I guess we won't see Millea (outside the mental scape) for awhile.

 

[finalm]

I hope we can have more tools for living organisms to defy gravity more than what we have to brute force it most of the time on Earth, I'm looking at abilities to swimming in the air level, but I don't think we can have the name yet.

If it's humanoid life and bigger then as previously stated, pretty much no chance, mostly do to how relative muscle strenght lags behind with volume increase. However, if it's something simpler, well:
https://exocosm.org/2021/03/giant-bags-of-mostly-gas-physics/

Similar principles would work especially well in a thick atmosphere, like on Venus. In fact, this came to mind because there was some speculation that Venus might host such lifeforms.

 

[Kuroku]

Non-sense.

It can regen, therefore infinite takoyaki.

Relax chaotic good barbarian, it’s not on the cheevo

 

[radstylix]

Relax chaotic good barbarian, it’s not on the cheevo

I literally have never encountered the word "cheevo" until now, and now I know what it means, thanks.

 

[Rogulair]

Relax chaotic good barbarian, it’s not on the cheevo

Where did chaotic good barbarian reference coming from? Did I missed something about those takoyaki ?

 

[Rogulair]

If it's humanoid life and bigger then as previously stated, pretty much no chance, mostly do to how relative muscle strenght lags behind with volume increase. However, if it's something simpler, well:
https://exocosm.org/2021/03/giant-bags-of-mostly-gas-physics/

Similar principles would work especially well in a thick atmosphere, like on Venus. In fact, this came to mind because there was some speculation that Venus might host such lifeforms.

That will be an interesting read, and on a good blog too, but seems pretty dead.
Thanks for chatting with me man, I have had fun. I would give you my favorite snack if I could.

 

[TiJoTo]

did we skip 2 chapters? site says 30 and 31 were uploaded. 30 says 30 on the first page, but on the 31st upload, the translation in panel says 33.

Typo, official source c31 is the same and c33 doesn't yet exist.