Mimi - Ch. 171 - Lipstick.

[JethroBodine]

Not really. When I see "it is 38 outside" I go "holy crap ot is blistering" and then realise they meant Fahrenheit and have 0 context of what that means and need look it up so that is just entirely your bias from growing up with it

How about we compromise? You get rid of Celsius and I'll get rid of Farenheit and we all adopt Kelvin.

 

[LordZero]

How about we compromise? You get rid of Celsius and I'll get rid of Farenheit and we all adopt Kelvin.

Kelvin is literally Celsius, each kelvin degree maps to a celsius degree.

 

[JethroBodine]

Kelvin is literally Celsius, each kelvin degree maps to a celsius degree.

But we can all start at zero and work our way up. Wouldn't that be nice?

 

[PlatinumTour]

100F sounds more correct than 37.7C when you deal with summer in the south. 37.7 is too low to accurately convey that plastic trash cans outside are melting.

Celsius is based around the temprature of water. It boiles at 100C and freezes 0C. And that's why i like it.

 

[orion313]

Wait, what ethnicity is Mimi? I honestly thought she was an American parody

 

[AzrefReza]

Based Mimi.

Go eat your baguettes. The answer was no then and looks to be no forever.

Oh, look, the swine is bathing in a pool of mud and its own feces! It seems so happy too!

"American in the background": WHAT THE F*CK IS A KILOMETRE!

Your britishness is showing: burgers write that a kilometer.

 

[AzrefReza]

100F sounds more correct than 37.7C when you deal with summer in the south. 37.7 is too low to accurately convey that plastic trash cans outside are melting.

0 celsius = literally freezing.
10 celsius = cold
20 celsius = nice and warm
30 celsius = hot
40 celsius = sweltering
180 celsius = for cooking bread

See, it’s easy.

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Also, you say that 37.7 °C doesn’t accurately convey the heat of 100 °F, but what kind of moron thinks that 30.2 °F (aka -1 °C) accurately conveys that it’s snowing?!

 

[Jampolo]

 

[DoingScience]

Is using common household (or cultural) objects to give a sense of scale for a dimension really only limited to the English language? I've seen it used in things from Britain too, so it's not just an American thing.

Almost every American has seen a football field in person, so it is very effective imagery to convey distance or area. Admittedly, the hundred meter dash is exactly 100m in a straight line, so it is somewhat a "cultural unit" that people have a common real life example of.

 

[Chaos_Breaker]

Not even there. There's nothing you can do in cooking with imperial units that you can't do as well or better with metric. Scaling recipes in metric units works way better than in imperial.

Metric doesn't have this

 

[Leecher97]

Metric doesn't have this

As someone not from the USA trying a lot of US created recipes, this graphic is immensely helpful, thank you for sharing.

 

[AzrefReza]

As someone not from the USA trying a lot of US created recipes, this graphic is immensely helpful, thank you for sharing.

Also, the fact you need a frigging guide to understand these god-forsaken units is a sign that there has to be a better option.

 

[LordZero]

Is using common household (or cultural) objects to give a sense of scale for a dimension really only limited to the English language? I've seen it used in things from Britain too, so it's not just an American thing.

Almost every American has seen a football field in person, so it is very effective imagery to convey distance or area. Admittedly, the hundred meter dash is exactly 100m in a straight line, so it is somewhat a "cultural unit" that people have a common real life example of.

Since metric units are just powers of 10 it's pretty easy to picture. Since our height is metric in meters and cms and we buy food in grams and kilograms, our bottles are in liters and the like, it's very easy to understand.

 

[Narf]

Is using common household (or cultural) objects to give a sense of scale for a dimension really only limited to the English language? I've seen it used in things from Britain too, so it's not just an American thing.

Almost every American has seen a football field in person, so it is very effective imagery to convey distance or area. Admittedly, the hundred meter dash is exactly 100m in a straight line, so it is somewhat a "cultural unit" that people have a common real life example of.

You get plenty of a sense of scale when you grow up with metric units (or just get used to them). You don't need body parts to refer to.

It's not that the rest of the world did not have their own units, they just saw that those are kinda shit and that metric made more sense, especially after the system gained global traction, so they abandoned (most of) them. Nothing to do with the English language, it's just that English-speaking countries clung longer to their brand of nonsense. And in the USA's case, continue to do so.

 

[Vimuninna]

I can't believe this is the thread I made an account for.

The measurement system that is best is the one that you know, whether you grew up with it or learned it. You like dividing by tens? Go use the Metric system. You grew up in or around America? Use the Imperial system, or don't, its your ease of use that matters, that's why measurement systems exist. Count to ten on your hands or twenty with your fingers and toes, either way its there to help you.

Anyways now to the reason I actually care about this arguement. There is NOTHING wrong with volume measurements in the Imperial system. They are simply beyond critique. How could one possibly misinterpret a Quart as anything other than a Quarter, or a Pint as half a Quart? These units are beyond simple, even to metric users, and Base-16 is obviously superior for cooking! The only way you can dare bring shame upon it is by over-complicating it, like this chart.

Metric doesn't have this

 

[controversial-me]

Ngl everyone calling my opinion dumb really is only proving my point; my point was that ppl keep on saying that they wanna have a more creative approach to life until it comes to measurements for some reason.

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[controversial-me]

not saying that precise measurements are only inherently for science, but i keep on seeing raging hate boners against the imperial measuring system because of its inconsistency. That is the only thing everyone seems to look out without acknowledging or appreciating the “whimsy” that is within the imperial measurements. Like its just funny like that. Sure measurements gotta be precise but that wasn’t what i was harping on.



my opinion was just a comment on how people are hard asses on the imperial system but then turn around and start dogging on corporations or start hating on other hard asses.

again the inconsistency within people, which i was just commenting on, is funny is all.

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[DoingScience]

You get plenty of a sense of scale when you grow up with metric units (or just get used to them). You don't need body parts to refer to.

It's not that the rest of the world did not have their own units, they just saw that those are kinda shit and that metric made more sense, especially after the system gained global traction, so they abandoned (most of) them. Nothing to do with the English language, it's just that English-speaking countries clung longer to their brand of nonsense. And in the USA's case, continue to do so.

If the US magically switched to using metric overnight, why would we stop using household objects for a sense of scale? Compare imagining 10 of some arbitrary unit or 10 of something physical, obviously one of them is more compelling (I have heard the unit 5 pound bag of rice used jokingly).

People won't stop comparing distance to the circumference of the earth or the distance to the moon just because its now 1 000 000 kilo-whats-its instead of 52 000 000 billy-bongs. We aren't Germans.

 

[Vimuninna]

If the US magically switched to using metric overnight, why would we stop using household objects for a sense of scale? Compare imagining 10 of some arbitrary unit or 10 of something physical, obviously one of them is more compelling (I have heard the unit 5 pound bag of rice used jokingly).

People won't stop comparing distance to the circumference of the earth or the distance to the moon just because its now 1 000 000 kilo-whats-its instead of 52 000 000 billy-bongs. We aren't Germans.

This reminded me that it is also incredibly impractical for the US to fully switch to metric, since we would basically need to fully revamp our entire educational system, and then teach the older generations to use it so we don't create a(nother) massive cultural divide based on what measurements you use. And since that educational switch is based on each state, there is simply no way all of them will agree to it, even if the federal government tries to force it with grants like they usually do. Then there's all the random signage across all the cities and towns, a bunch of websites and buisnesses would have to swap over, the chance that there is actual legislation that now has to be changed because they used imperial measurements within the law, and a bunch of other things that slip my mind.

All for something, which I will argue, has no benefit to anyone since we already have something that works and standardized conversions between Imperial and Metric units. Even if those conversions fail because of human error. (No the NASA incident is not the fault of the Imperial system, its the fault of the engineers for failing to convert the units.)

 

[LordZero]

If the US magically switched to using metric overnight, why would we stop using household objects for a sense of scale? Compare imagining 10 of some arbitrary unit or 10 of something physical, obviously one of them is more compelling (I have heard the unit 5 pound bag of rice used jokingly).

People won't stop comparing distance to the circumference of the earth or the distance to the moon just because its now 1 000 000 kilo-whats-its instead of 52 000 000 billy-bongs. We aren't Germans.

That's literally not it. Many people can easily tell you that the circumference of the earth is just 40k kilometers.
If we compare the earth to anything it's just to set a sense of scale. Just a different way of saying "It's not just big, is THIS BIG". Like your veins or nerves put together.

The issue we have with imperial units is that they are so unintuitive and dumb that you guys can't literally convert them into each other mentally and it's such a needlessly hard exercise that you can't say 10 tons, you must compare them to school buses because you can't mentally picture how much is a lot of something.

It's not 10 meters, it's X bananas, it's not 800 kgs it's X washing machines.

It's not silly or quirky it's just dumb.