Mada Kimi o Miageteru - Ch. 2 - Just Like Old Times

[Jerslo]

Oh no shit, I didn't know that /s as someone that was naturally reserved as a teenager this is pushed to the extreme to an annoying extent and feels less believable because this guy 20+ years old. No normal person goes to far extremes like "s-she's hanging out with me, I-Im scared people might think we're a thing" just for being in close proximity within a girl. And if you or someone you know acts like that at your grown age then that's just embarrassing

First, if the protagonist has no issues there's no story, and while i agree this shit is annoying, typical virgin personality, you don't get to tell how someone should or shouldn't act or think, it's common empathy my dude.

Second, you're literally ranting to a drawing, get serious bro, go touch some grass if you're so good at telling someone that what he is doing is embarrassing

 

[Darkshade13]

This manga feels very refreshing ngl. But my qualms with manga based on well.. making manga is that the editors and authors always talk about how an ideal manga should be like and what the readers expect from the author whereas irl, we get the same copy paste shit stuff like loner x gyaru/class beauty stuff everytime and they somehow end up popular. I'm not saying most of these generic manga get popular but many of the popular manga nowadays are just cliche.

Years ago I remember reading something about manga production where it was said that editors/publishers have found that audiences want comfortable familiarity, not daring newness. They don't want a series that breaks new ground, they want a familiar story they've read before with just enough different pieces to make them think it's not a blatant copy/paste. Also publishers are gunshy about spending money and space on something that could fail, so they will reliably fall back on ideas that have worked before because they feel that they're less risky.

 

[BurnerAccount69]

First, if the protagonist has no issues there's no story, and while i agree this shit is annoying, typical virgin personality, you don't get to tell how someone should or shouldn't act or think, it's common empathy my dude.

Second, you're literally ranting to a drawing, get serious bro, go touch some grass if you're so good at telling someone that what he is doing is embarrassing

"You don't get to tell someone how to act or shouldn't act" take your own words, it's a fucking drawing, the characters feelings aren't getting hurt and 2. No one normally acts like this irl, especially at that age. If you're only way to make a story entertaining is to have mc act like an unrealistic 12 year old that's never interacted with a girl in his life then that says a lot about your terrible writing skills. 3. Since you wanted to make this a personal attack, when no one else here did, go fuck yourself

 

[CinnamonCrunch]

Oh no shit, I didn't know that /s as someone that was naturally reserved as a teenager this is pushed to the extreme to an annoying extent and feels less believable because this guy 20+ years old. No normal person goes to far extremes like "s-she's hanging out with me, I-Im scared people might think we're a thing" just for being in close proximity within a girl. And if you or someone you know acts like that at your grown age then that's just embarrassing

you remind me of one of those people that live in a box and refuse to acknowledge anything outside of it. Who gives af about whether it’s “normal” or not? If everything is “normal” then everything is the same and if everything is the same then it’s boring. If you don’t like something then move on, simple. Grow up.

 

[BurnerAccount69]

you remind me of one of those people that live in a box and refuse to acknowledge anything outside of it. Who gives af about whether it’s “normal” or not? If everything is “normal” then everything is the same and if everything is the same then it’s boring. If you don’t like something then move on, simple. Grow up.

I'd find this charming if it was unique except 1. This an overused trope common in japanese manga 2. Said trope is both lazy and off-putting

Unlike you I can enjoy something (like the art, other characters) while criticizing aspects if it I don't enjoy, namely the mc. The one who needs to grow up here is you, don't fucking tell me what do to do

 

[CinnamonCrunch]

I'd find this charming if it was unique except 1. This an overused trope common in japanese manga 2. Said trope is both lazy and off-putting

Unlike you I can enjoy something (like the art, other characters) while criticizing aspects if it I don't enjoy, namely the mc. The one who needs to grow up here is you, don't fucking tell me what do to do

grow up lol

 

[BurnerAccount69]

grow up lol

Says the person who first made it a personal attack over someone elses critique for a completely fictional work

Take your own advice

 

[CinnamonCrunch]

Says the person who first made it a personal attack over someone elses critique for a completely fictional work

Take your own advice

grow up lol

 

[essensue]

The only person I hate here is the virgin main character, everyone else is fine. "w-we were seen together people m-might get the wrong idea" like holy shit

It sucks that we're all just so used to that flavor of MC that it's become a norm we just expect. He IS kinda virgin(insult)-coded, and an explicit otaku and loser, but I think the point of that interaction was something else:

He's not saying no because girls are scary, he's saying no because he doesn't want to show her the manga. The liquid courage of the other night let him turn back the clock to before both of their lives collapsed and draw with her like back in HS, but in the cold light of day he's embarassed at the idea of her giving him another failing grade.

He takes two full ellipses before giving the shitty, stumbling "people might talk" excuse, and she teases him about how dumb they both know that is in a way that still leaves him his dignity. The fact that it was flirty teasing and his reaction does evoke every turbovirgin harem MC, but I don't think that's who he's quite meant to be.

 

[BurnerAccount69]

It sucks that we're all just so used to that flavor of MC that it's become a norm we just expect. He IS kinda virgin(insult)-coded, and an explicit otaku and loser, but I think the point of that interaction was something else:

He's not saying no because girls are scary, he's saying no because he doesn't want to show her the manga. The liquid courage of the other night let him turn back the clock to before both of their lives collapsed and draw with her like back in HS, but in the cold light of day he's embarassed at the idea of her giving him another failing grade.

He takes two full ellipses before giving the shitty, stumbling "people might talk" excuse, and she teases him about how dumb they both know that is in a way that still leaves him his dignity. The fact that it was flirty teasing and his reaction does evoke every turbovirgin harem MC, but I don't think that's who he's quite meant to be.

It sucks that we're all just so used to that flavor of MC that it's become a norm we just expect. He IS kinda virgin(insult)-coded, and an explicit otaku and loser, but I think the point of that interaction was something else:

He's not saying no because girls are scary, he's saying no because he doesn't want to show her the manga. The liquid courage of the other night let him turn back the clock to before both of their lives collapsed and draw with her like back in HS, but in the cold light of day he's embarassed at the idea of her giving him another failing grade.

He takes two full ellipses before giving the shitty, stumbling "people might talk" excuse, and she teases him about how dumb they both know that is in a way that still leaves him his dignity. The fact that it was flirty teasing and his reaction does evoke every turbovirgin harem MC, but I don't think that's who he's quite meant to be.

No you're right this dude is definitely virgin / loser coded, as that was probably one of the worse excuses he could've given. The only people who think that way are kids or young teens so it's really off putting seeing someone his age act like that.

Unfortunately it's apparent he's gotten no play or experience in all this time so I'll try not to rag on him too much, tho for me personally that very fact does make some of his interactions with her feel like a chore to get through. Sorry abt my earlier reaction, I've revoked it because i thought you were going to be like the other two who were turning it into personal attacks against me instead of actually addressing or disagreeing with my take instead. Fair enough your take actually gave me some introspection on it

 

[Mondemon]

No you're right this dude is definitely virgin / loser coded, as that was probably one of the worse excuses he could've given. The only people who think that way are kids or young teens so it's really off putting seeing someone his age act like that.

Unfortunately it's apparent he's gotten no play or experience in all this time so I'll try not to rag on him too much, tho for me personally that very fact does make some of his interactions with her feel like a chore to get through. Sorry abt my earlier reaction, I've revoked it because i thought you were going to be like the other two who were turning it into personal attacks against me instead of actually addressing or disagreeing with my take instead. Fair enough your take actually gave me some introspection on it

I would say to wait for this to accumulate more chapters and binge read it. This author knows how to give decent/good development to his MCs, so it might be a better experience for you that way. MC being exaggeratedly meeky/awkward unfortunately is a loved troupe by japanese readers, but honestly, at least for me, what matters the most is if the MC changes and gets better as the story goes on, even if he doesn't have appeal at the beginning.

In case you want to read the author's first manga (Shounen, Chotto Sabotteko?) to check it's MC's character development, it's only 39 chapters with 14-15 pages per chapter, so it's a really fast read.

 

[BurnerAccount69]

I would say to wait for this to accumulate more chapters and binge read it. This author knows how to give decent/good development to his MCs, so it might be a better experience for you that way. MC being exaggeratedly meeky/awkward unfortunately is a loved troupe by japanese readers, but honestly, at least for me, what matters the most is if the MC changes and gets better as the story goes on, even if he doesn't have appeal at the beginning.

In case you want to read the author's first manga (Shounen, Chotto Sabotteko?) to check it's MC's character development, it's only 39 chapters with 14-15 pages per chapter, so it's a really fast read.

I'll check that out thanks

 

[Otaku_guy11222]

I feel a very strong sense of impending dread when reading this manga. Idk, maybe it's just me being overanalyzing or because I'm used to romance mangas being all fluff

 

[Miorioff]

Such a waste of good art, just to make a self-insert loser mangaka story. Nothing about it is interesting except the sexy gyaru who is completely out of place

 

[Hadski]

A concafe huh

 

[essensue]

I feel a very strong sense of impending dread when reading this manga. Idk, maybe it's just me being overanalyzing or because I'm used to romance mangas being all fluff

(& @RezaKingA @Kanashi ) I hope you (or anyone) can report back if you ever manage to put your finger on why, because the vibes I'm getting are the complete opposite and I'm really curious about what it is that's hitting so different. I wonder which the author was going for?

Spoiler: Just my read so far:

Our leads find themselves resigned and just kind of treading water in the aftermath of tragedies that robbed them of their secure identities of artist/wife. They're surviving, making it through every day, but they aren't "recovering" or thriving. The only certainty in their lives is that nothing will change if they don't do something. Then life/the story hands them a seed crystal to start rebuilding their futures in the form of their reunion - a link to a time when they were still thinking about tomorrow.

To me, the understated and considered way their emotions are presented emphasizes depression over despair. Their interactions suggest that maybe they're what each other needs right now. And the choice of where to begin the story and how gently they're treated suggests "We're introducing them at a low so you can watch them go up." I'm left hopeful.

I'm also not getting anything particularly ominous from the art other than how tight the camera always is and how much "Stuff" (speech bubbles, contrasting textures, etc.) there is in every panel... but to me it reads more "cluttered" than "claustrophobic," a weakness of the artist rather than a stylistic choice. It's a shame, because when they give it a moment to open up and breathe, it's artistically and emotionally beautiful.

The only other foreboding thing I can think of is that we've already been shown that this is a world where bad things can happen, and the realistic/mundane way those sad things are presented is consistent with stories that don't guarantee a happy ending.

 

[habla]

hope she's a sex worker

 

[Chuito]

Well this is interesting, her husband may have passed away, but it seems that her heart still misses him very much. So even if he is gone, he is still a "rival" to the mc even after death.

We cant really tell if she is stuck on the past or not based on this chapter.

Cant be too stuck on it if she forgot the ring. Plus her working like that

 

[Kaalhode]

Oh no shit, I didn't know that /s as someone that was naturally reserved as a teenager this is pushed to the extreme to an annoying extent and feels less believable because this guy 20+ years old. No normal person goes to far extremes like "s-she's hanging out with me, I-Im scared people might think we're a thing" just for being in close proximity within a girl. And if you or someone you know acts like that at your grown age then that's just embarrassing

Ok, so I don't completely disagree with you. The whole "I'm scared they might think we're a thing" or making every sort of advance seem like the whole logic of the world is falling apart or smth, feels weird to me as well, considering I have never really seen anyone act like that IRL. I was more so disagreeing with how you're implying adults can't be socially awkward/shy/timid/whatever without being labeled "weird" or "on the spectrum"

 

[Zblurth]

so I did not read any of the previous message so maybe someone already pointed that but the part about the editor going "you draw to much about yourself / imagine who you are writing for"

I disagree so hard on that, I do not want to read something to have a easy catch and one I already practised (read) a thousand time for fuck sake, I want to know what is going in the author head like everything that Oshimi Shuuzou ever wrote or Asano Inio or Tsukushi Akihito, heck whatever the duo being Rosen Garten Saga none of those story could be written or imagined by me

Those type of editor as the one that push an isekai plot line in story that never needed it or push harem and shit smh if you write for your reader you write for no one