hitoner - Ch. 3 - The Hito's Language

[IrregularPerson]

As I'm enjoy this series, I'd like to share the fun fact that aside from parrots showing the remarkable ability to imitate human voices, there is actually a mammal species that is capable of communicating legible words albeit at a lower register, harbor seals! There's a sound bite on the wikipedia part for Hoover, the talking seal~
There's been other instances of sea mammals like whales also showing a remarkable intelligence for understanding our language~

 

[Nums]

Had he never spoken Japanese to the Kemono before? I'd think that'd be the easiest way to demonstrate his intelligence in the first chapter, even if they wouldn't understand. He wrote some Japanese in his first drawing, it seems odd that he hadn't tried speaking before that though.

 

[greatninja3]

Yeah I don’t really understand the he is alone sentiment.

Like his space craft is still up there just need to teach this guys how to make a rocket

If it’s been long enough that the earth is destroyed if one man can travel across space the rest of humanity could do the same.

It would definitely be an interesting plot in case a colony craft ends up following his path and reach the planet on a later time

 

[Toxic_Potato]

it's so peak... but does the cat girl have 6 or 2 nipples??? I need to know

 

[Toxic_Potato]

Yeah I don’t really understand the he is alone sentiment.

Like his space craft is still up there just need to teach this guys how to make a rocket

If it’s been long enough that the earth is destroyed if one man can travel across space the rest of humanity could do the same.

It would definitely be an interesting plot in case a colony craft ends up following his path and reach the planet on a later time

he would need to be put under cryogenic sleep again in order to be able to meet another one of his kind.

information can only travel at the speed of light at the fastest, and we can assume that it's been a great many of those

Simply the nearest stars are 4-5 light years away, let alone a system that can sustain intelligent life. It would have to be even more extremely far away, considering how dedicated we as humans have been to logging the stars around us.

The general sentiment towards humans right now is that they're gross and evil, so admitting their deficiencies to gain knowledge from him wouldn't work in the state of the world right now. Even if they did accept, it would still easily take decades to build a space program from the ground up on an unfamiliar planet.

The issue is that we simply do not know what is happening back at earth. Maybe you're right and more people are going to follow in the coming times. Information takes so long that at even the speed of light (impossible) decades or even centuries could pass before earth comes to know of what happened to our MC, if he even has the ability to communicate like that. Maybe he could try sending out some radio waves or something

 

[SteveJust]

Previous chapter said he travelled from a distant galaxy, not star system, that's 25,000 light years for Canis Major Dwarf Galaxy (which is a relatively 'tiny' one that orbits the Milky Way with about 1 billion stars) and 2.5 million light years for Andromeda if you're wanting a galaxy similar to our own.

If his ship didn't have FTL and just slowly coasted between galaxies he's either spent millions of years or billions of years getting here. Though I'm iffy about billions of years, the light from Andromeda would be millions of years old and billions of years to reach the planet would mean it would have long since stopped being 'earthlike'.

I wonder how he was able to get a spaceship to do a one way trip to some distant star.

 

[FibonacciGuy]

Was not expecting a reference to A Trip to the Moon in a manga.

 

[luigiymario2]

I mean, it was a nice spreading of old folklore tales and culture! <3

 

[Bigvoii]

I think when he said "his world is no more" it's more of a cultural thing. likely hundreds of years have passed and the human civilization he grew up literally changed into something unrecognizable. I'm sure humans are still alive

 

[Jergens]

Had he never spoken Japanese to the Kemono before? I'd think that'd be the easiest way to demonstrate his intelligence in the first chapter, even if they wouldn't understand. He wrote some Japanese in his first drawing, it seems odd that he hadn't tried speaking before that though.

The ability to speak does not make you intelligent. For written language they wrote it off as imitation. I imagine they would've seen it similarly to bird chirping given how his voice and speaking is described like singing.

 

[Nums]

The ability to speak does not make you intelligent. For written language they wrote it off as imitation. I imagine they would've seen it similarly to bird chirping given how his voice and speaking is described like singing.

I wasn't claiming that it would've proved anything on its own, only that it would've acted as supporting evidence. There is no hard line when it comes to intelligence, but generally, the ability to communicate verbally is a skill that requires intelligence and also demonstrates sociability (as seen with animals on earth). I just think it's weird that 'Hito' didn't even try to communicate verbally or even indicate that he was capable of doing so until after he had fully learned their written language.

 

[jojoka]

I wasn't claiming that it would've proved anything on its own, only that it would've acted as supporting evidence. There is no hard line when it comes to intelligence, but generally, the ability to communicate verbally is a skill that requires intelligence and also demonstrates sociability (as seen with animals on earth). I just think it's weird that 'Hito' didn't even try to communicate verbally or even indicate that he was capable of doing so until after he had fully learned their written language.

Perspectively we don't know what their language sounds like. He could have tried taking but they could be speaking in multiple growls and snarls and ways humans just can't speak and if that's the case our vocals might sounds nothing like a language they have any form of reference to.
Dolphins from what I understand do actually speak their own simple language, same with certain bird species but their vocal strums would be very hard for us to understand as different abs nuanced this could happen right here too.
It would make sense that only after there was an explanation and they could understand the nauce of how a humans vocal range works that they then can start getting that he's speaking a language and even understand he's speaking multiple .

 

[SiKucing]

The lion president is being portrayed as the bad guy over the series, but I feel he'll get vindicated if they ever learn about Neanderthalensis, Denisova, Floresiensis, Heidelbergensis, and more, especially after how they explained kemo civilization of cooperation in Chapter 2...

I mean, our initial theory is that we modetn human outcompete them but seeing that we had some of their DNAs it was probably not so white and black..... as we learn more about or genes and new archaelogical remains were discovered, our initial theory need to be reasessed once more. It's not something new as well in science world.

It is not that our initial facts were wrong, it was just incomplete data produced incomplete pixture of our past. Just like our initial theory about the existence of planet Vulcan.

 

[UnvalidUserName]

This is so cute but one small criticism I have is that there is no way it would have been that hard to imitate human speech considering birds do it just fine

 

[UnvalidUserName]

While he was flying, Earth had invented hyperdrive of some sort. They came to this planet, terraformed it and decided to play god to see how civilization works or something. We are the Ancient Aliens.

Did you just spoil the final reveals Ergo Proxy??
It's only been out for 20 years bro!

 

[Toxic_Potato]

Previous chapter said he travelled from a distant galaxy, not star system, that's 25,000 light years for Canis Major Dwarf Galaxy (which is a relatively 'tiny' one that orbits the Milky Way with about 1 billion stars) and 2.5 million light years for Andromeda if you're wanting a galaxy similar to our own.

If his ship didn't have FTL and just slowly coasted between galaxies he's either spent millions of years or billions of years getting here. Though I'm iffy about billions of years, the light from Andromeda would be millions of years old and billions of years to reach the planet would mean it would have long since stopped being 'earthlike'.

I wonder how he was able to get a spaceship to do a one way trip to some distant star.

I'm guessing this is some kind of deus ex machine last ditch culmination of the brightest minds of humanity working together after they did something so catastrophic as to spell utter doom for the rest of the human species. I agree that this kind of tech is crazy but maybe not so much for just one first and final time.

 

[Brickdownjc]

The closest habitable planet to earth is about 4 lightyears away. Currently, modern spacecraft would take about 20,000 years just to venture one light year. Assuming 100,000 years has passed during his journey in Space, even if Humanity somehow remains after so long, it would hardly resemble the civilization that Hitoshi knew.