Isekai Yakkyoku - Ch. 66 - Brothers and Rivals

[Seinvolf]

Thank u always for ur great work...
^^...

 

[Shinigamisama]

Poor Palle is taking the brunt of this other disease, which is being Falma's bro. Good thing the other side of the table and the empress were fine.
They're going to take 200 yrs to verify the "Source: Trust me bro" book, and possibly longer.

How many more secrets? None... probably. At this rate, I have a feeling that one day, Falma will say, "Congrats, Palle. You're an uncle now," after Falma's future kid had been born for years already.
Always had been.

 

[rameniki]

Always had been.

I wouldn’t say I agree.

It’s established that Palle and Ellen have been close rivals since early years, always one-upping each other. So the fact that Falma basically had one-on-one session with Palle for months and he also worked on the contents of Falma’s book, it makes sense that she feels she’s being left behind.

 

[SchultzD]

I kind of think that a revolutionizing medical tractate must be 3-5 times thicker or in tomes, especially, if it has many illustrations.

 

[velatic]

your majesty queen is so beautiful

 

[Jackal-Lantern]

"Some" is basically guaranteed based on probability alone, but the author still glosses over just how much chaos it would be to have an educational reform of this sort, lead by what is some child savant to the public eye.

Anyway, did we actually see a single "old beard" that supports that yet? Besides the MC's father, of course.

Why would they spend time going over the chaos when it's a fictional world that delves in magic. I'm not sure what people expect at this point... Literally Farma had already performed miracles... if there exists a chance to replicate it, even on a smaller scale, people would have to be asinine to not even consider giving it a try. In fact, we literally saw examples of some fools who didn't accept Farma's advice and they ended up dying. Why should we go through seeing the same thing again?

It's gonna be supported, plain and simple. Those who don't, will be left behind... It's not hard to comprehend.

 

[TetraSky]

Now she's asking that ? Come on...

 

[Homuranagi]

"Some" is basically guaranteed based on probability alone, but the author still glosses over just how much chaos it would be to have an educational reform of this sort, lead by what is some child savant to the public eye.

Anyway, did we actually see a single "old beard" that supports that yet? Besides the MC's father, of course.

Farma has already established himself towards the mass, the nobility and even the church, the three that would often head butts with each other on agreeing on things. He isn't just some child savant that people would be skeptical with

 

[finalm]

Farma has already established himself towards the mass, the nobility and even the church, the three that would often head butts with each other on agreeing on things. He isn't just some child savant that people would be skeptical with

The nobility at large know nothing of him, other than his family name - his role in recent events was kept secret. The commoners know only that he's a peculiar court pharmacist who runs a good pharmacy/doctor's office, as far as they know it's just a passing fancy for him. The church has a strict gag order on anything about him, as established by their new leader, who's probably one of the very few who even knows about him. He's absolutely an unknown quantity to the nation at large and even more so for the people who are going to teach and study under his care.

 

[finalm]

Why would they spend time going over the chaos when it's a fictional world that delves in magic. I'm not sure what people expect at this point... Literally Farma had already performed miracles... if there exists a chance to replicate it, even on a smaller scale, people would have to be asinine to not even consider giving it a try. In fact, we literally saw examples of some fools who didn't accept Farma's advice and they ended up dying. Why should we go through seeing the same thing again?

It's gonna be supported, plain and simple. Those who don't, will be left behind... It's not hard to comprehend.

Because society, whether the scientific one or any other is not all-knowing, like the manga's readers. In fact, the MC himself took pains to make sure they know next to nothing about him and where the knowledge he brings comes from. That's accounting only for the people who are honestly interested in progress, there should be plenty of those who'd rather the current state not be challenged - it's what they owe their positions and priviliges to, after all. Uprooting all that would not go smoothly, but I'm pretty sure the author will continue to pretend otherwise.

 

[finalm]

Actually it's should not that long, it would be 200 years if they start from scratch but with excellence "map" they just need to verify which is far easier. I think there is only one things that beyone their time, the electron microscope.They can verify other things without modern equipments except virus.

There's literally no way to verify such things without establishing the fundamentals first. Actual chemistry, microbiology and honestly far more other disciplines than it's practical to list. All of those also need the technological background that allowed them to develop IRL, otherwise the verification would literally just be "trust me, bro". The MC is already stretching suspension of disbelief by somehow knowing how some of that technology is made, despite that not being something a pharmacologist would learn. The 200 years is a conservative estimate for that world's scholars to develop all that by themselves.

 

[Jackal-Lantern]

Because society, whether the scientific one or any other is not all-knowing, like the manga's readers. In fact, the MC himself took pains to make sure they know next to nothing about him and where the knowledge he brings comes from. That's accounting only for the people who are honestly interested in progress, there should be plenty of those who'd rather the current state not be challenged - it's what they owe their positions and priviliges to, after all. Uprooting all that would not go smoothly, but I'm pretty sure the author will continue to pretend otherwise.

Ah yes, the magical world didn't conform to your expectations and logic based on your perception of our world and is thus doing things wrong... lol. Sure...

 

[finalm]

Ah yes, the magical world didn't conform to your expectations and logic based on your perception of our world and is thus doing things wrong... lol. Sure...

If the "lol it's magic, anything's possible!" mindset satisfies you then don't let me get in the way of such simplicity. Oh right, I wasn't the one who engaged here, so why exactly am I hearing complaints about supposedly overcomplicating your jolly little fairytale?

 

[Jackal-Lantern]

If the "lol it's magic, anything's possible!" mindset satisfies you

Considering it's been present since the very beginning, I'm more amused by how stuck you are on this. Like they let him treat the queen for goodness sake... Like tell me what society would let a kid treat the ruling power? And you want to try to apply your little logic that obviously don't make much sense here... You should find a different series that better caters to you, or don't... makes no difference to me as I'll find posts like these beyond hilarious.

 

[joeymcclane]

I hope Palle ends up with Ellen and Falma hooks up with the Queen.

I know what kinda of man you are!

 

[IdanaHamz]

Actually it's should not that long, it would be 200 years if they start from scratch but with excellence "map" they just need to verify which is far easier.

This reminds me, I kept thinking back to Dr. Stone whenever I read an Isekai that involves reinventing technology. The "progress map" is such a good method of doing it.

 

[Homuranagi]

The nobility at large know nothing of him, other than his family name - his role in recent events was kept secret. The commoners know only that he's a peculiar court pharmacist who runs a good pharmacy/doctor's office, as far as they know it's just a passing fancy for him. The church has a strict gag order on anything about him, as established by their new leader, who's probably one of the very few who even knows about him. He's absolutely an unknown quantity to the nation at large and even more so for the people who are going to teach and study under his care.

The thing that he has is connections in high places, the majority that you say is unaware of him will simply have authorities backing him. The church may keep mum about his true nature but anybody who would dare use, demons or magic maliciously as an argument will be squashed by the authority on this matter which is the church, and the church isn't anything like in our world. Time and time we have stories of commoners small and big like the admiral or even lower nobilities, rich people acknowledge him, and word of mouth is easy to circulate that even the wife and child of a big competitor would take his medicine over his, you underestimate the sort of influence he already had with his pharmacy. He himself has audience with the queen attended by the majority of nobilities, hardly any nobility would not know of him, the empress health is not some small matter that they wouldn't hear about. The recent black plague and white death were kept secret for now and yet, a faculty of imperial medical school professors and researchers discovered that he was behind this and already acknowledged him and even forced him to be an instructor. Now if you're wondering or asking any "old beard" these are the bunch of people you're looking for, and if ever there would be who'd oppose this, the amount of influence he has I've mentioned and to be honest Bruno's influence should be enough to give him some merit to be heard

 

[finalm]

Considering it's been present since the very beginning, I'm more amused by how stuck you are on this. Like they let him treat the queen for goodness sake... Like tell me what society would let a kid treat the ruling power? And you want to try to apply your little logic that obviously don't make much sense here... You should find a different series that better caters to you, or don't... makes no difference to me as I'll find posts like these beyond hilarious.

Are you being intellectually dishonest on purpose or is that just your default attitude? They didn't. His own father was outraged at the idea, threatened him with magic. Until it became clear he's under some sort of supernatural influence. Even then the only reason he relented was because he himself knew the woman was as good as dead anyway and he himself (as her physycian) would have to take the hit for it, possibly along with the rest of his family - it would have made little difference if the kid screwed up. Is this the logic that does not make sense to you?

 

[finalm]

The thing that he has is connections in high places, the majority that you say is unaware of him will simply have authorities backing him. The church may keep mum about his true nature but anybody who would dare use, demons or magic maliciously as an argument will be squashed by the authority on this matter which is the church, and the church isn't anything like in our world. Time and time we have stories of commoners small and big like the admiral or even lower nobilities, rich people acknowledge him, and word of mouth is easy to circulate that even the wife and child of a big competitor would take his medicine over his, you underestimate the sort of influence he already had with his pharmacy. He himself has audience with the queen attended by the majority of nobilities, hardly any nobility would not know of him, the empress health is not some small matter that they wouldn't hear about. The recent black plague and white death were kept secret for now and yet, a faculty of imperial medical school professors and researchers discovered that he was behind this and already acknowledged him and even forced him to be an instructor. Now if you're wondering or asking any "old beard" these are the bunch of people you're looking for, and if ever there would be who'd oppose this, the amount of influence he has I've mentioned and to be honest Bruno's influence should be enough to give him some merit to be heard

Yes, he has authority behind him, absolute authority in fact and by that I mean the empress. If that was not the case, we would not be having the conversation, since he'd get nowhere. That still does not change that there should be resistence to him taking such a huge role out of the blue. Possibly not direct disobediance (it's probably not very safe to do that despite the monarch's will), but you should know there are plenty of ways to hinder projects like that if most of the community that's supposed to implement it do not take kindly to it.

That's the thing, we do not see the things you talk about. As I've mentioned, all that is kept under wraps, which is his own preference too. The state might choose to disclose that it was him who devised all those revolutionary treatments, but it's still an "informed" ability - might as well tell people he went to the Moon, since basically no one saw the process happening and if you go back to the beggining you'll see that publically it was Bruno who took credit for curing the empress (though he did come clean to the head physician) - out of the same necessity as here, it would be ridiculous to admit his kid suddenly surpassed both him and everyone else in the world. Unless of course, the church got involved and simply proclaimed him a god. The effectivness of that is hard to anticipate, since it's never explained how willing the people would be to swallow that pill. Either way, it's not a solution they are going for here.

So yeah, they can force the issue and hope for the best, but there absolutely should be chaos among the scholarly community.

 

[nap94]

"Has he surpassed me?" I hate to break it to you, but you haven't even been on the same racetrack as him since you finished teaching him divine arts.

In the words of our queen Azula, "Don't flatter yourself, you were never even a player."