Mada Kimi wo Miageteru - Ch. 7 - I'm Still Full of Lingering Regrets Even Now

[UdenEmpati]

Ill agree that he wasn't cucked but the similar sentiment is still there.
He quite literally is a substitute for another man in the final scene.

What a chocker, men and women are different wow. Like it or not she will always compare him to her dead husband, thats just how women are. Specially since she is still grieving him. While a man will just be content with what he has, this isnt a scenario where swapping the sexes works well

That's just misogyny.

"Women and men are different" in a lot of ways, but you cannot tell me that no man would behave in the manner Tsubaki is, because grief and projection are in no way linked to gender.

Tsubaki is drunk after going to her husband's grave and running into/being accosted & then rejected by his sister. She's stressed, hurt, in need of an escape, and turned to the numbing comfort of alcohol, and then the person she is close to and has reconnected with from years before.

She's in a vulnerable state and not thinking clearly, and the emotional turmoil & alcohol has her acting rashly in the moment.

But that isn't her using him or turning him into a substitute for her dead husband, in the way that some insist on insinuating.

Yes, she's in a vulnerable state and Otakei's back sparked a memory of riding on the back of that motorcycle. That sort of association happens all the time in all manner of ways, and Tsubaki being drunk means she'll act impulsively in such an emotionally charged situation. Shs's not intentionally trying to use Otakei, nor is she looking to "replace" her husband.

Because Otakei and her husband are different people, and represent different things to Otakei specifically. Talking about him being some sort of "spare" just sounds like people haven't experienced enough life to know that having more than one relationship, or different kinds of relationships at different points, is actually a thing.

 

[19801980]

Quem diz que otakei é apenas uma "segunda opção" para tsubaki parece estar fazendo muito mais sentido agora, não sei bem o que pensar disso.

Infelizmente, é assim que Otakei está agora, porém, com o tempo ele conquistará Tsubaki, ela aprenderá a amá-lo por quem ele é, e não por quem ele a faz lembrar.

 

[LemanRusk]

From the flashbacks it would not be much of a stretch to think that her husband's family potentially never approved of their relationship in the first place and now that he's gone they have no reason to disguise those feelings.

 

[19801980]

A situação de Tsubaki é triste; dá para perceber que, infelizmente, o acidente do marido pode ter sido causado pela distração dele por ela, e ela é a única sobrevivente, carregando essa culpa. Ela projeta o marido em Otakei, tornando-o não apenas uma segunda opção, mas um substituto e um fantasma. Espero sinceramente que ela supere isso e aprenda a amar o protagonista.

 

[Rinnemi]

A lot of the comments feel mysoginistic ngl.
Why wouldn't she miss her husband? she is still young and he likely died fairly recently, not to mention she is drunk.
I'd feel sorry for the husband if she moved on that fast.
If things were reversed and this was a story from the perspective of a man who lost his wife people would be far more accepting of the premise.

 

[ThrystaVindr]

Even with the sister there we still know nothing about the deceased husband not even a sprinkle of info As expected they'll just drag out this plot line for 60+ chapters until then to get information about what couldve possibly happened. On the other hand I hope we get more moments with the female manga artist and otakei I really want to see a romantic relationship form between them

I mean, it's only chapter 7 lol. not surprising there's still a lot of unknowns

 

[havelmom]

oh no here comes the waterworks

 

[havelmom]

Have you seen the author's pixiv account...?
I would not discard a hentai fanbox in the future.

we are 100% getting a "totally-not-that-character" gal doujin
just like the previous (although the OL morphed into a goth gf)

 

[rymar]

This feels unfair towards the MC. He may have a lot of regrets towards their past (what could have been) too, but her using him to cope with feelings of loss after the husband's death, is worse in my opinion. Maybe this story just ain't for me. Really not a fan of this kind of dynamic. Also not saying fMC is a bad person for behaving the way she does.

 

[Mangamoz]

Cool, then why is the other person bitching at all?

This is a manga, not hentai, and wishing it to be hentai is now pointless in two ways.

Their takes seem pretty reasonable, knowing this artist's work history.

If anything, it's you that is being overly hostile.

 

[shadowmasstitan]

Their takes seem pretty reasonable, knowing this artist's work history.

If anything, it's you that is being overly hostile.

Thank you.👍 I didn't like the original henta1 comment but I respect that he had the courage to comment. Especially in this thread were you are literally labeled misogynist and/or incel for wanting better for the male main character.

 

[Mangamoz]

Thank you.👍 I didn't like the original henta1 comment but I respect that he had the courage to comment. Especially in this thread were you are literally labeled misogynist and/or incel for wanting better for the male main character.

If people cannot do lewd comments in a manga where this panel was in the chap, then where else can we do so? If anything, the author WANTS us to make these comments. So this "holier than thou" behavior from people here is silly.

Spoiler

 

[UdenEmpati]

Their takes seem pretty reasonable, knowing this artist's work history.

If anything, it's you that is being overly hostile.

What "takes" are you considering reasonable?

And, if you consider what I've said her as overly hostile, then that's your prerogative. But I don't see any reason to coddle people who come in here calling Otakei a cuck or Tsubaki 'used goods' or dropping the covert (and overt) misogyny when they can't handle a story that's more complex than the litany of high school romcom slop that's so prevalent.

If this story isn't for some people and doesn't suit their tastes, then I'm not going to bag on them for that. To each their own.

But coming back chapter after chapter with poor comprehension to what's happening, choosing to repeat the worst possible interpretation of what little we've been shown in all of seven installments? That betrays what reads like inexperience in the sorts of relationship dynamics that exist in the world, or worse, outright immaturity and a refusal to consider that just maybe, people are complex and the most surface-level reading that seems like it's built off time spent marinating in NTR/NTS hentai doujins (because of the prevalence of people calling Otakei "second choice" and inferring Tsubaki is cheating on her dead husband, and all the other aforementioned nonsense), and coming at the story with preconceived notions and biases and then projecting those onto the characters just makes the people doing so look a touch silly.

 

[UdenEmpati]

Thank you.👍 I didn't like the original henta1 comment but I respect that he had the courage to comment. Especially in this thread were you are literally labeled misogynist and/or incel for wanting better for the male main character.

"wanting better" for Otakei is fine. He's going to "get better", because he has an entire character arc that will play out, both in terms of his manga/professional career and--perhaps--an evolving relationship with Tsubaki.

Saying that Tsubaki is 'used goods' and that she's simply using Otakei and being selfish and then labelling Otakei a cuck is just childish and makes it sound like the people hammering that point have no concept of whatever high school relationship they may have had (or vicariously lived through other manga) and stopped all introspection into how people grow and change from there.
It's such a surface-level take on the story and so anti-Tsubaki in particular that calling it misogyny hardly feels unwarranted.

Prove me wrong if you don't want to be judged by the words you repreatedly throw out chapter after chapter.

 

[Mangamoz]

What "takes" are you considering reasonable?

And, if you consider what I've said her as overly hostile, then that's your prerogative. But I don't see any reason to coddle people who come in here calling Otakei a cuck or Tsubaki 'used goods' or dropping the covert (and overt) misogyny when they can't handle a story that's more complex than the litany of high school romcom slop that's so prevalent.

If this story isn't for some people and doesn't suit their tastes, then I'm not going to bag on them for that. To each their own.

But coming back chapter after chapter with poor comprehension to what's happening, choosing to repeat the worst possible interpretation of what little we've been shown in all of seven installments? That betrays what reads like inexperience in the sorts of relationship dynamics that exist in the world, or worse, outright immaturity and a refusal to consider that just maybe, people are complex and the most surface-level reading that seems like it's built off time spent marinating in NTR/NTS hentai doujins (because of the prevalence of people calling Otakei "second choice" and inferring Tsubaki is cheating on her dead husband, and all the other aforementioned nonsense), and coming at the story with preconceived notions and biases and then projecting those onto the characters just makes the people doing so look a touch silly.

Oh, seems you are misunderstanding something, my bad for not making it clear who I am referring to. I was referring to @Nanidude 's comment on this possibly having a hentai done of it later.

Not whatever the NTR topic is about.

 

[HawkGoggles]

It feels like rom-com discussions have been getting more heated lately. But also there seems to be a influx of the worst people imaginable as well. I think we can all appreciate a titty from one of our favorite authors who also happens to be a hentai artist. But we can also appreciate a complex story of two people full of regrets trying to move pass them. We are also complex. But I do hate the absolute fucking chuds that have been around.

 

[E45onmyWhip]

Some readers really don't like this because of the "Husband" thing, but it's not that bad, tho. Also, I wouldn't mind if this went about them finding their own "Happiness" without them dating or getting married. (But hey, if they got married or became a couple, it's still good)

 

[dowiet]

sad chapter

 

[marcos.rodriguesart]

It's two chapters per month?

 

[story645]

And the author is writing the story so bad with having the mc inexperience with relationships

Not that it should even matter, but the reader hasn't been given enough of his backstory yet to know if/how inexperienced he is.

The girl who's been strictly loyal for many years and is fiercely supportive or the cabaret girl that sells her body and is still hung up on her ex?

So far all the reader has seen is that Otakei has a manga friend who believes in his work and Tsubaki is a waitress who wears skimpy costumes. Nothing about romantic loyalty (from a woman who doesn't owe him any given they're not in a relationship) or sex work.

Like it or not she will always compare him to her dead husband, thats just how women are.

Folks being hung up on their lost love is very much not a gendered thing; while widowers tend to remarry quicker, that's b/c of the benefits of marriage to men.