Himaten! - Ch. 95 - Just My Girl

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The fact some people would rather have the character with 0 development win will always surprise me
Cool, now this manga is remembered as a waste of time (unless this is a fakeout; doubt it, but who knows).

Like, seriously, people think this shit is good?
 
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I feel that there's something wrong going on in the last few pages. Is the author gonna pull a bokuben ending?
 
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The fact some people would rather have the character with 0 development win will always surprise me
Cool, now this manga is remembered as a waste of time (unless this is a fakeout; doubt it, but who knows).

Like, seriously, people think this shit is good?

I really think people are more excited for subverting tropes than writing that makes sense. Honoka takes a back seat the entire manga and just gets handheld to the win, but it's ok because the childhood friend finally wins! Unbelievable.
 
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Well, I'll be damned! The author actually had the balls to do it!

Hima-nation, are you ok?

I got reminded of The World God Only Knows, and how the fanbase was trying to figure out which was going to be the girl the protagonist was going to choose. And it was mayhem by the end. Only few of us got the result right. In this case, I just didn't think Honoka was developed as it should have, unlike the other two. It was mostly just established with was the crush, and that hew as still crushing on her, but then... they didn't do much together except for the very last chapters. There was really nothing to point at this result except for the last two/three chapters.
 
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I definitely don't think Honoka's really been given enough attention by the manga, but I'm kinda confused by how many people are acting like she was a faceless background character with "zero development" and "no personality." Like, she had this whole thing where she had to learn to be more active in her relationship with Tenichi, and that actual led to her being more active. (Even if she did end up confessing via a damn letter.)

Maybe the way the author went about that was a bit lame, but surely it's at least better than Hima just coasting along on the status quo the whole time? The only bit of character development she has is the exact same sort of generic "popular girl realizes that the unpopular MC is cool" that you get in all these popular girl / unpopular boy romcoms. If anyone has no development, it's her.

Of course, both of them pale in comparison to Kanna, but now that she's been thrown out, Kanai is the obviously one with the more defined arc.
 
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I agree with you, I felt like the story had a good pace with their relationships building organically, but at some point like 20 chapters or so he kinda rushed, Himarin (my personal favorite) like suddenly realize she was completely in love it looked very forced, I think she had all the reasons to like him, but she couldve realized kinda in their scenes or "dates" together but it didnt look like that at all to me. Like you said he completely forgot the other girl like he didnt cared, and him choosing Kanai at the end is fine but again it looked insanely rushed like the manga was Axed, he didnt reflect on who and why he kinda just chose her. I don't know if I made much sense but thats what I feel, crazy forced like it was axed when the manga had a great pace imo it. At the end it didnt look like a clash between anyone it looked like the first girl got shot down for no reason, and then he went with the one who actually confessed like he didnt have no choice
Yeah he started to feel confused on his feelings between the two and I was expecting us to get to see him figure it out this chapter before the honoka confession but nothing.. so for sure feel like if it wasn't axed things would maybe have gone on a bit longer and he would have gone for Himari. (Let me cope ok? 😭)
 
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The fact some people would rather have the character with 0 development win will always surprise me
Cool, now this manga is remembered as a waste of time (unless this is a fakeout; doubt it, but who knows).

Like, seriously, people think this shit is good?
Definitely not arguing that Honoka lacked consistent character development, but if I had to choose between someone who has never been mean and a tsundere who has and ended by guilt tripping Iemori, I'm hoping the choice he made sticks.
 
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oh, okay i guess... hey, you kow what would be absolutely hilarious? does anyone else remember what's the name of that manga where the winning girl dies/gets super sick and the MC ends up marrying the other girl and it all just gets worse?
 
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have to agree with everybody. it feels weird and i would have rather have gotten some more emotional stakes from everybody. I liked Kanna the most too! Next chapter has a chance of being a cold shower from this dream-like chapter or a last puttering before the end

oh, okay i guess... hey, you kow what would be absolutely hilarious? does anyone else remember what's the name of that manga where the winning girl dies/gets super sick and the MC ends up marrying the other girl and it all just gets worse?

are you thinking of Domestic na Kanojo?
 
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Hima-simps! Do not give up the ship! Hold your faith! There is still a chance.
Hima just needs pull off the most powerful move in all Manga....
C O M A S T R A T S.

I really enjoyed the first 3/4 or so of this story, and it's not like I hated the end, but when the gravure girl shot her shot and got unceremoniously shooed off stage it made me feel that the author didn't really have much care for the heroines. It's not like I even disagree with the outcome of the story. I just feel like there was a huge build up of tension that got let out very weakly in comparison with how well the rest of the story came together. Hima's resolution was better by comparison than the gravure girl, but it seemed somehow hollow.
I know there's been some speculation about how the author changed the ending to match the popularity polls, but it doesn't really change how weak the writing is when before I was very emotionally invested in the stakes of the story.
In the end, I'm not sure what even was the central theme of the story. It seemed like it wanted to be about how support and love go hand and hand. In that way, a Kanai ending is very fitting, but I think you could have really made a bigger clash between Hima and Kanai at the end with Hima being more desperate to give Iemori the support that Kanai was giving all along. It would have made a more impactful end than the weak deflation we got.
It's a shame really. There's so much to love about the story, but the ending just was half baked regardless if you had Hima or Kanai win in the end.
110%. You summed up where I am perfectly.
Especially "shot her shot and got unceremoniously shooed off stage it made me feel that the author didn't really have much care for the heroines".

I was a Honoka simp from the get go, but he had worst chemistry with her over all (when they DID interact it was lethally cute, but they couldn't manage to look each other in the eye more than once a quarter despite him knowing where she worked and her knowing where he lived) and while honor dictates I support the Childhood Friend every time, he was just so much better with Hima.
(I loved Kanna as a character and I loved her actually being assertive and her shoot down was fucking bullshit, the reason she liked Iemori was "He watered the flowers at school helped her out and didn't know she was a model" so it was very shallow and she can find another nice guy)

You can tell the plot changed a while back, and its not quite as good or planned as the intended Hima ending.

And what you said about the theme being completely lost is spot on. It would be one thing if this was going to be.. Tenchi and Honoka get together, and then we see 10 years on CEO Hima is reminiscing about her time in highschool, realizing too late that she had been in love, but still being satisfied with how her life turned out and moving on in a bittersweet way.

or if it had been about "what you think you want isn't really what you want". Kanna's assertiveness has her win, they date, but both of them realize they really aren't that compatible and relationship was something both of them rushed into too early; Kanna still wants to "keep him as a fan" and sends him 'speicial service' selfies. Then Tenchi dating Honoka as he cleans for Hima, and he and Honoka realizing they are TOO close for it to be really love. And Hima wrestling with her feelings the whole time, maybe she finds a guy but it doesn't work out becasue she's still hung up on Tenchi.

Honestly if this was less light hearted, I'd have liked to see Hima fully declare war on Honoka and not in the "so we aren't allowed to get ahead of each other because we're friends" bullshit, I mean full cutthroat CEO to win over Iemori and or even just not let him get on the elevator; don't just dump your feelings, make him take responsibility.

It's weird, normally I'd be up for something like this but Hono just never really developed much of a personality beyond being a cute girl. The entire series their dynamic is that they have both liked eachother for a long time, but it falls kinda flat when you spend so little time actually developing their bond beyond that. Which is a shame because I felt the character/relationship writing was decently strong with a certain other girl.
The issue was she never got much screentime, because the "dilemma" keeping them apart - they both love the other but are too terrified of rejection to make a move and see the other person also loves them - was dumb and the more they interacted the less you could believe both them were too utterly retarded to pick up on the signals from the other person.

Due to this lack of ability to have them interact, all of Hono's actions that made her attractive had to be in the past, so that made the current Hono seem dishwasher and shallow.

When the author DID allow them to interact (The scene of him visiting her at Starbucks was just so cute, her sacking up and asking him to come clean, her arranging an entire class trip so he could have a redo) it was great but then it made the slack times between those events that were filled with the other girls feel so off-putting.

I agree with you, I felt like the story had a good pace with their relationships building organically, but at some point like 20 chapters or so he kinda rushed, Himarin (my personal favorite) like suddenly realize she was completely in love it looked very forced, I think she had all the reasons to like him, but she couldve realized kinda in their scenes or "dates" together but it didnt look like that at all to me. Like you said he completely forgot the other girl like he didnt cared, and him choosing Kanai at the end is fine but again it looked insanely rushed like the manga was Axed, he didnt reflect on who and why he kinda just chose her. I don't know if I made much sense but thats what I feel, crazy forced like it was axed when the manga had a great pace imo it. At the end it didnt look like a clash between anyone it looked like the first girl got shot down for no reason, and then he went with the one who actually confessed like he didnt have no choice
TBCF Hima was aware she was catching feelings several chapters ago when she told Iemori she "couldn't root for [him and Honoka] anymore", but was playing it off.

Honestly I thought we were heading for a "Honoka and Tenchi get together, but realize they are too close and what they feel for each other isn't romantic love, Hima helps him pick up the pieces."
 
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As a hono fan I'm happy she won but man this manga was mad infuriating.
I understand a lot of the points people are making and I think the big problem was that it was a tug of war between the title and the characters.
Hima is in the title so she has to have the most amount of screen time and progress. Which leaves the other girls as a "who cares" since it feels like hima is going to win no matter what they go through. Because hima's ship name is the fucking title.

I think if the title was different the damage to this skewed character hierarchy could've been minimized.

I'm not saying changing the title fixes everything though, this manga still has it's issues. The way drama is handled and stretched out was god awful. "Oh you feel like you and the boy aren't relationship like" then gaslight him into being okay with it, "you want to confess your feelings while you know you have 2 rivals on the prowl" write him a confession letter that he can only open after a month has passed

Poor Kanna fans, you guys didn't even have shot.
 
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Oh, ok I guess. Author chose subversion over telling a good story.
I'd argue the author appears to have chosen subversion over telling a BAD story. What client rewards a great housekeeper by SACKING them, pretends to the world via a book that he's still her housekeeper AFTER he's already been fired, then guilt trips him hoping for a romantic relationship?
Is Himarin the sort of fake 'heroine' you want to win?
 
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I definitely don't think Honoka's really been given enough attention by the manga, but I'm kinda confused by how many people are acting like she was a faceless background character with "zero development" and "no personality." Like, she had this whole thing where she had to learn to be more active in her relationship with Tenichi, and that actual led to her being more active. (Even if she did end up confessing via a damn letter.)

Maybe the way the author went about that was a bit lame, but surely it's at least better than Hima just coasting along on the status quo the whole time? The only bit of character development she has is the exact same sort of generic "popular girl realizes that the unpopular MC is cool" that you get in all these popular girl / unpopular boy romcoms. If anyone has no development, it's her.

Of course, both of them pale in comparison to Kanna, but now that she's been thrown out, Kanai is the obviously one with the more defined arc.
Precisely, Honoka wasn't exactly a bad character. Only the author was really bad at show enough to give hints that this was what was happening. Yoshino was at the center of it all, so of course we'd think she win. And Kanna was just such an impactful character whenever she appeared that she also look pretty strong, in fact she was the most forward in her way of dealing with love. Yoshino was simply someone who was there with him all the time, but she didn't try to approach him like that. And Honoka was mostly just waiting for... an angel to bless her.
 
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I'd argue the author appears to have chosen subversion over telling a BAD story. What client rewards a great housekeeper by SACKING them, pretends to the world via a book that he's still her housekeeper AFTER he's already been fired, then guilt trips him hoping for a romantic relationship?
Is Himarin the sort of fake 'heroine' you want to win?
Bro she's the realest one out of all of them, certainly is the most character. You seem to prefer the wet nothingburger over the actual character. Also Himari and Tenichi have chemistry, Honoka and Tenichi are just highschool crushes that will be broken up with in 2 months. Blue Box literally did this plotline with the manager girl and best friend guy, and correctly portrayed it as the tragedy it is.

Also yea, she does some stuff. So? Tenichi was clearly very broken up by them actually parting, in equal measure to Himari. For him to immediately go to Honoka without reservation or second thought is just bad writing. It's boring, it feels hollow, people are left feeling empty rather than having bittersweet understanding, and it sucks.
 
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Bro she's the realest one out of all of them, certainly is the most character. You seem to prefer the wet nothingburger over the actual character. Also Himari and Tenichi have chemistry, Honoka and Tenichi are just highschool crushes that will be broken up with in 2 months. Blue Box literally did this plotline with the manager girl and best friend guy, and correctly portrayed it as the tragedy it is.

Also yea, she does some stuff. So? Tenichi was clearly very broken up by them actually parting, in equal measure to Himari. For him to immediately go to Honoka without reservation or second thought is just bad writing. It's boring, it feels hollow, people are left feeling empty rather than having bittersweet understanding, and it sucks.
I mean that's what's also pissing me off that we never got to see his final thoughts of his conflicted feelings towards Himari and Honoka. I was hoping we'd get to see his thoughts of it all before the Honoka confession but sadly not enough chapters left for him to do so. Maybe in another life time. 😭
 

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