Level 0 no Munou Tansakusha to Sagesumarete mo Jitsu wa Sekai Saikyou desu ~Tansaku Ranking 1-i wa Nazo no Hito~ - Ch. 17

[TenThousandWaspsInACoat]

Maybe he told himself: "Hey, I've already defeated so many strong monsters when no one else could and saved the girls more than once. Maybe I should pick a course where they can actually teach me something new."

Then again, that's probably too sensible for a manga protagonist.

That makes little sense though. Because he didn't pick it to "learn something new" but as his role in the party. Abandoning getting actual respect, decent treatment, and recognition in favor of adding being an errand boy on top of his other skills.

 

[Bibliothecarius]

Thanks for the chapter!!!

 

[bakanisan]

Pretty sure those two black boxes on page 5 were talking about a new Refresh/Cleanse skill or something in the raws not an emergency mobilization order?

I agree, it doesn't make any sense. Looks like KDT didn't brief their TLs or their MTLs enough.

 

[BlackAeronaut]

That makes little sense though. Because he didn't pick it to "learn something new" but as his role in the party. Abandoning getting actual respect, decent treatment, and recognition in favor of adding being an errand boy on top of his other skills.

Dude, you're missing the point entirely.

MC specifically states on page 12: "I'm the only one in my party that lacks basic knowledge, after all."

Remember: he only just started dungeon diving. He does not yet have the foundational knowledge that others already have. Which is part of why he never realized that he was becoming so stupidly OP in the first place - he had no point of reference, not even the basic common sense of other dungeoneers, that would have helped him to realize what was going on. He had to get clubbed over the head with clue-by-fours by his two ladies - repeatedly even - before it finally began to sink in. It isn't that he's dumb. It's because he had absolutely no frame of reference!

His very first dungeon dive was basically like being dropped into Dark Souls on "NG+7" difficulty without anyone or anything telling him so, and because he did not have the common knowledge of other dungeoneers, he thought at first that it was "Normal" to have that kind of experience.

Also remember that MC does NOT have your perspective as a reader. He can only see what he sees. He does not have your "big picture" POV.

As for why his lack of basic knowledge is such a problem?

You can ask anyone who plays RPG's as a hobby: even if you get twinked (see: Twinking on Wikipedia) on your very first playthrough and have all the skills in the game instantly granted to you, you're still not gonna know what the hell to do with them. That's where having guides and walk-throughs are helpful.

And that's what he's doing right now. He's got these cheat-level skills, and they're great. But he knows that he lacks the common knowledge that will let him get the most out of those skills. He can literally turn monsters into pink mist, which is fine if he was soloing... But in a party? He needs to be more precise so there'll be good materials left for the rest of his party.

 

[TenThousandWaspsInACoat]

Dude, you're missing the point entirely.

You're making excuses. Because regular adventurers do NOT learn these things, it's something exclusively done by folks too weak to become actual adventurers and instead becoming porters. You are pretending everything is going through this and learning these skills, they're not.

 

[zerio]

Pretty sure those two black boxes on page 5 were talking about a new Refresh/Cleanse skill or something in the raws not an emergency mobilization order?

Dude, that page makes so much more sense now. Thanks!

 

[BlackAeronaut]

You're making excuses.

I am?

Because regular adventurers do NOT learn these things, it's something exclusively done by folks too weak to become actual adventurers and instead becoming porters.

Where does it say that?

You are pretending everything is going through this and learning these skills, they're not.

You mean "everyone" and not "everything", right?

Also, citation for that as well, please. Because from the reactions of the other party members, they know at least a little bit about what he's learning now. At the very least enough that they seem to know the importance of balanced party compositions.

 

[TenThousandWaspsInACoat]

I am?



Where does it say that?


You mean "everyone" and not "everything", right?

Also, citation for that as well, please. Because from the reactions of the other party members, they know at least a little bit about what he's learning now. At the very least enough that they seem to know the importance of balanced party compositions.

Yes, you are. And because this is a specific course for porters, not adventurers in general. Who do the dirty and menial tasks for the "real" adventurers. You can even clearly see it's exclusively porters attending there and learning these things, as they are basically baggage carriers for the real adventurers.

And no, knowing a balanced party composition doesn't equal to learning to be a servant doing the dirty tasks for the rest of the party.

 

[BlackAeronaut]

Yes, you are. And because this is a specific course for porters, not adventurers in general. Who do the dirty and menial tasks for the "real" adventurers. You can even clearly see it's exclusively porters attending there and learning these things, as they are basically baggage carriers for the real adventurers.

And no, knowing a balanced party composition doesn't equal to learning to be a servant doing the dirty tasks for the rest of the party.

Dude, did you not understand some of the internal monologue MC was having? Or did you conveniently skip those parts?

 

[TenThousandWaspsInACoat]

Dude, did you not understand some of the internal monologue MC was having? Or did you conveniently skip those parts?

His "inner monologue" is based on him still thinking he's weak, somehow and can't be a regular adventurer.