Mite Minufuri wa, Tsumi desu ka? - Vol. 4 Ch. 20 - Each Person's Justice

[MangaDex]

 

[KSR_4849]

We've finally fulfilled our promise. There's a sense of relief in seeing this finally out and about, but I want to say just one thing:

If we're the group doing another series that you want to read and we haven't released a new chapter in a while, it's a better idea to contact us directly in our server or here in MD to ask why. It is NEVER a good choice to instead ask another translator to continue our work because 1) It's ironic to have someone else follow up on our titles when we're supposed to be handling dropped mangas / commissions from clients, 2) We're juggling other mangas with a predetermined priority system, 3) It's just rude to do it that way.

Please, don't do that ever again. Seeing the news when I first heard about it gave me a quick heart attack, lol.

EDIT: You can take this as an open invitation that I would entertain any valid inquiries into our titles both here in MD, or in our server, or even in my discord DMs if you're really that discreet about it. I honestly don't mind

 

[pink_rabbit]

Sengoku should be free imo. Sure, he could redo in society but he was literally going to cause more harm.

Please, don't do that ever again. Seeing the news when I first heard about it gave me a quick heart attack, lol.

I'm sorry that happened to you and the group. Thank you for translating this work. May peace be with you and all

 

[77BLc9JwJGpLVARkamJx]

Man, I hope sengoku beat up more assholes in prison while waiting for his time, dude probably got that due to his speech there in the court. No idea if the death rows can mingle with non death row prisoners in japan, I dont think they can if I used other series as a reference.

 

[BzztBeater]

Another Chikara and Yen work done. It's honestly amazing how these two can keep pumping out these compelling stories about revenge, bullying, and what "justice" means with no quality loss, has to be the result of some careful planning and the short lengths of each story (some of the works only cap out at like 30 chapters).
Sengoku, in the end, was a true hero. His circumstances took a heavy toll on his sanity but no matter what, his heart was in the right place, and he was always looking after Miyake from moment one. Even in the very end, he was willing to give up everything to help his first friend.
And Miyake deserves no less credit, he was a confused young man caught up in a tidal wave of bad situations, but he managed to land on his feet and will live a happy life. Like the cop said, it's better to try and do something if you see somebody in danger than to do nothing.
Big thanks to the Deer pack for the Fun Facts and for finishing this, you guys were the REAL heroes.

 

[bc524]

Thanks for completing the translation.

I do think it misses a bit on the issue of why the vigintalism happens in the first place. Like that gang leader got reported and was able to get out without issue and continue his crime spree, which is why it further escalated to him getting killed by Sengoku in the end.

They had to kill him because he would not stop targeting the mc's family and the system could not be trusted to provide that protection. Even at the end, the judge was appaled by sengoku's final words even though he should fully know the reason for it.

You can't say "people shouldn't do vigilantism and rely on the system" while showing the system being unreliable.

The detective pointing that the mom was also charged with child abuse for allowing it while her bf was alive and its a failure to the MC for giving the girl back to the mom. The only reason they even know is because the guy died in the first place. Like, you can't claim some high horse for being more thorough in the solution when you wouldn't even attempt it in the first place.

 

[KoriCongo]

You can't say "people shouldn't do vigilantism and rely on the system" while showing the system being unreliable.

The detective pointing that the mom was also charged with child abuse for allowing it while her bf was alive and its a failure to the MC for giving the girl back to the mom. The only reason they even know is because the guy died in the first place. Like, you can't claim some high horse for being more thorough in the solution when you wouldn't even attempt it in the first place.

If you ever want to see The System actually work, just say it to their face The System doesn't work.
Miraculously, it will seem like everything runs perfectly just to fuck YOU over!

Seriously though, the detective isn't claiming the high horse so much as explaining what justice is to someone like him. That there's so many knock-on effects. But it doesn't matter as long as you are saving someone. He isn't saying don't get involved, if anything The System doesn't work if people let things slide.

(by the by, the Bystander Effect, which this manga heavily bases its morality on, isn't actually a real thing. Most people are pretty inclined to get involved in a situation, or have an active incentive to not and watch. There really isn't evidence of a mass "I hope the next dude calls for help" effect. The study on it was heavily skewed and manipulated. Look it up!)

 

[es_kan]

Aw, no leniency for Sengoku at all? Get that man an ace attorney!

 

[Devilizer]

Nice to see a Chikara and Yen manga that isn't about how those children deserved it. It's interesting getting one of these from the perspective of the moral paragon character who doesn't agree with the extremist vigilante's methods, but cannot deny that things would've been worse had they not acted at all. De-centering Sengoku from the protagonist slot lets us see someone like Aizawa or Sakurai from the perspective of the people around them.

I think, compared to the usual "and then they got away with all the wild shit they did for the last thirty chapters" ending, having Sengoku willingly accept a prison sentence is ultimately more satisfying. He believes in justice, principles and accountability, that there are things one should and shouldn't do, and killing someone in cold blood, no matter how reprehensible they might be, is something to which society absolutely shouldn't turn a blind eye. Sengoku said it himself: he did something to help the world, the best thing he's ever done, but that something was tasing a man, tying him to a tree and stabbing him to death, and if a principled society doesn't want someone like that walking the street (although, last I checked, over 90% of all criminal trials in Japan end in conviction for the defendant, and that number is closer to 95% for murder trials, and numbers like that do not occur without some kind of collusion and corruption), standing by his justice means accepting that judgment.

 

[KSR_4849]

(although, last I checked, over 90% of all criminal trials in Japan end in conviction for the defendant, and that number is closer to 95% for murder trials, and numbers like that do not occur without some kind of collusion and corruption), standing by his justice means accepting that judgment.

Which is really strange considering how the gangster leader guy managed to get himself acquitted even with that fact in place, even if he was arrested for some business law technicality he wasn't prepared for. His lawyer must've been Phoenix Wright or something.

 

[OWMWO]

We've finally fulfilled our promise.

 

[quser]

MC better visit Sengoku as often as he can

 

[FrigusAvis]

sengoku my goat...

 

[ysil69]

Did it say anywhere Sengoku got the death penalty? That'd be pretty rare for a single murder where you didn't even pre-plan or bring your own tools to do the job. More likely around 15-20 years. Would've been nice to end it on a note where MC is 20 years older picking up his bud from prison release, with a bank account of money he'd been saving for him. Proper "justice."

 

[can_zero]

Did it say anywhere Sengoku got the death penalty? That'd be pretty rare for a single murder where you didn't even pre-plan or bring your own tools to do the job. More likely around 15-20 years. Would've been nice to end it on a note where MC is 20 years older picking up his bud from prison release, with a bank account of money he'd been saving for him. Proper "justice."

I think given the "brutality" of the crime, and the fact he showed absolutely no remorse, he could have gotten life or the death penalty

 

[KSR_4849]

Did it say anywhere Sengoku got the death penalty? That'd be pretty rare for a single murder where you didn't even pre-plan or bring your own tools to do the job. More likely around 15-20 years. Would've been nice to end it on a note where MC is 20 years older picking up his bud from prison release, with a bank account of money he'd been saving for him. Proper "justice."

It never gets mentioned, no

 

[cybeast21]

MC better visit Sengoku as often as he can

Sengoku probably refuse the visit even if he come (iirc you can refuse?).

 

[ankiwi]

Ah that judge. The reason we have so many repeat offenders walking the streets is because of people like him existing irl.