nah after 30 chapters its a drop for me
None of this follows the supposed "NTR" seen in this manga though. There is extortion and rape. Eliza doesn't willingly kiss Satsuki, and isn't even told to. There's only the vague order from Ichi to Eliza that she has to change, and from what the aftermath looked like, even Ichi didn't know what Satsuki was going to do. Satsuki took advantage of the situation to rape Eliza (even Autumn says Eliza was "forcibly kiss[ed]"), and it's reflected in Eliza's immediate suicidal depression and shame/impure feeling (common trauma in rape victims). The only betrayal done here is by Satsuki, not by Eliza to Ichi or vice versa.The way I see it, when someone forcefully interferes into such relationships like that mega pervert, it almost feels like a sense of betrayal, which is something that aligns with the whole theme of NTR.
NTR often involves infidelity and most importantly, betrayal, and I believe that characters don't necessarily have to be in a romantic relationship for each other to feel that way.
Forcefully kissing is like a breach of trust, and it can make some people uncomfortable. Imagine being kissed out of nowhere, by someone you don't even love, that would send you into a sort of surprise and shock.
This is so well said!!let's be honest, we're all still here just for the art.
This series started off strong. Hot girls, interesting premise, likeable MC with character growth. It was all good until the battle at the pool. Then author suddenly wanted something dark and edgy and did a 180. MC became a loser and everything (other than the art) became a sea of diarrhea.
I should have seen the signs when they started spouting flawed philosophical bullshit in that pool arc, actually. If only the author was as smart as he thinks he is. Strong signs of the author having no idea what to do with the story / universe he created. He just explores every trope imaginable with every arc.
such a shame. it was an interesting premise, just poorly explored.
valid point indeed but you're thinking inside the box too muchNone of this follows the supposed "NTR" seen in this manga though. There is extortion and rape. Eliza doesn't willingly kiss Satsuki, and isn't even told to. There's only the vague order from Ichi to Eliza that she has to change, and from what the aftermath looked like, even Ichi didn't know what Satsuki was going to do. Satsuki took advantage of the situation to rape Eliza (even Autumn says Eliza was "forcibly kiss[ed]"), and it's reflected in Eliza's immediate suicidal depression and shame/impure feeling (common trauma in rape victims). The only betrayal done here is by Satsuki, not by Eliza to Ichi or vice versa.
I think it's funny that people still consider this NTR even with the chapters following the forced kiss that explicitly shows how much they both hated it and did not expect it. Like, what makes NTR what it is, is the woman (or person) intentionally having an affair and/or leaving their partner.
I want to believe you, but for some reason it's giving off the vibe that I can't trust what you say lmfao. This manga is literally reeking of "shit's going to go off the walls ... in ways that you're going to be repulsed by the end of it"Someone gave NTR warning for some reason. That doesn't exist so far, not even remotely.
Anyways, this may seem like a harem at first glance. But it's not even close, seriously. I honestly expected slice of life hijinks with no real plot. But boy, the plot took off and it's pretty fucking good. I feel like I've seen this art from Raw Hero or Prison School. It's really spectacular. MC is VERY likeable and has his head on straight really. The girls are amazing as well. Super even. Total recommend.
And that's where I also don't agree with. Readers read what they want, and they have things they absolutely hate and don't want. With this manga, I think it's weird people expected more "wholesome" "no cheating" harem romance (as wholesome as harem can be I suppose), when it's clear from the get go in the first 10 chapters that this isn't going to be a story like that, and with everyone in the comments also talking about how fucked this manga is or how they don't trust the authors since they're known to do some weird shit. But either way, I don't agree with having authors doing a rug pull though and introducing very controversial things into a story that many people will definitely end up hating. It's one thing to subvert expectations, and it's another to literally do a 180 degree on something that's portrayed as a wholesome love story into NTR or borderline NTR crap. That's not good writing, that's just doing extreme rug pulls with huge shock value. Subverting expectations doesn't mean adding absolute shock value and cuck/NTR/rape fetish to subvert hard line tropes. That's just playing into another hard line trope of utilizing the extreme as a shock factor, and people calling it peak because of such cheap tricks. Making people "feel" things by introducing rape/NTR/cuck stuff is the absolute cheapest and easiest ways to "illicit feelings" from the reader and isn't a good way of story telling. Again, I'm not saying that this manga did that, this manga seemed sus as fuck from the get go. I'm just talking about how you're implying that NTR and rape is a good tool to use as a provocative story telling or way to illicit feelings from readers to introduce "new" things. When you have to resort to using things most people find disgusting and vile and infuriating as the tool in your story telling, then it shows me you lack the writing skills to actually create and well crafted story that can subvert ideas, tropes, and expectations in much more well crafted ways by actually story telling and not using shock factor that will guarantee a response.It was supposed to be provocative and make you feel things. That's not a failing on the part of the author. You just went into the manga thinking it was going to adhere strongly to very specific tropes that you find comfort in and not try anything else. The manga is far from perfect, but I have a different view on it. I like manga that get weird and show me something new and strange that I've maybe not seen before, even if they sometimes stumble in telling their story.
DMCA or something but it doesnt matter. We will able to generate manga with AI soon anyway.Why did all the English chapters get deleted?
Right? I was reading this shit lol.Why did all the English chapters get deleted?
Bro... get help. As someone who has lived out NTR. It's not that fun or satisfying, it leaves you feeling empty and kinda bad.It was supposed to be provocative and make you feel things. That's not a failing on the part of the author. You just went into the manga thinking it was going to adhere strongly to very specific tropes that you find comfort in and not try anything else. The manga is far from perfect, but I have a different view on it. I like manga that get weird and show me something new and strange that I've maybe not seen before, even if they sometimes stumble in telling their story.