Eroge Tensei - Unmei ni Aragau Kane Buta Kizoku no Funtouki - Ch. 23 - True End

[Wolvenworks]

Wait what that’s it?

Why is this not marked as completed then?

 

[MisterMango]

I speed read a hundred-something chapters of the WN. It's not great. Not because of translation problems, but weird choices by the author. The manga fixed some of it in my opinion, before rushing to an unsatisfying conclusion. Maybe the LN is even better, but did anyone verify that it exists?

 

[kaminomikan]

so.... that's it?

 

[sendai2cx]

exactly, if i woke up and suddenly remembered raping someone i would kill myself in shame on the spot. there is no being forgiven for rape PERIOD.

And these boys wonder why women don’t trust them. Rationalise rape all all they want, but it doesn’t change what the body they inhabit has done to others, and that any redemption is not theirs to demands. They can only hope that they’ve got the drive to make amends, and they’ve enough time to have a chance of being forgiven.

 

[CommissarAlex]

Are you Serious?

It literally wasn't him... This is an Isekai lmao, he woke up in some other dudes body. The soul he replaced (essentially killed) is the one that did those things.

Leave your politics out of this lmao, cause you're just speaking nonsense.

Lmao, He didn't remember doing anything, he recalled memories of the body he had taken over, not his own.

Stop ignoring the fact this is an Isekai to push your nonsensical argument.

It's honestly stupid how much of the Original Hosts actions MC takes responsibility for, NONE OF THEM WERE HIS!

He's not Leold, he's the dude who basically killed Leold and replaced him.

Since that seems to complicated for you to understand tho, Imagine you had a brain transplant into another body, and you were given their memories, so you know all the bad shit they did but kept hidden.

Would you view those as your actions?

That was all done by them, not you, your brain wasn't even in their body at the time. Same shit here, just Soul instead of brain.

The fact you are even writing such is hilarious, and why people should fact check themselves before writing something so foolish (in the sense it's completely irrelevant to this story).

Like, when you wake up, and remember a horrific scene from a movie, from the perspective of the killer, do you off yourself? no it wasn't you, it was the killer in that move. Just like it wasn't MC, it was the fat pig from the game he played.




edit: given you're commenting on this chapter, there's not even and excuse for this level of ignorance...

Legit says it on page one: "My Reincarnation into fate 48 began the very moment that pig leold got decked by sieg!"

All that stuff you two are complaining about, was before that moment... You're literally blaming the person who killed the one who did those actions. (indirectly sure, but well Leold ain't in his body anymore sooooooo.)

Imagine calling rape "politics" you're sick bro

 

[Kaarme]

Kind of a lackluster ending if this is indeed it. It was an ending, sure, but a lot of the characters feel rather wasted. Even the fact the ero-maid was still there, despite the princess not suspecting Leold of any criminal tendencies anymore, was like a cruel act of teasing if the story ends here; because it indicated the princess wants to keep an eye on Leold for personal, not professional reasons.

 

[onionskins]

This whole thing is such stupid garbage. Imagine being reincarnated as an isekai Diddy, it's basically game over for you. I fail to understand what the writer is trying to accomplish here, reading it just gives you a headache.

 

[Eliminateur]

Well this is it i guess, thanks for reading!
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i feel for you having to translate this insanely text heavy bad manga

dog shyte.

yeah, absolute dog shite, it was all sophistry shoving their idiotic mentality down our troats the entire manga. Poorly written, badly executed, full of forced bad drama and "boohoo pity me" characters

 

[revengeZN]

The only way this manga could've been better is if it was actually him who did the raping, so that the reactionary comments would have valid logic to stand on, instead of resorting to stupid mental gymnastics just to blame the innocent japanese soul who wandered into the rapist's body against his will.

 

[Kikaibaka]

I saw the comment at the top about a character Charlotte, and it does indeed sound like a lot was cut and could've been far more interesting. Especially with all the new age tech stuff.

Also they completely forget the Maid from the first chapter... I liked her... she was the one I was shipping with MC. (Forgot his real name if they even gave it to us).

Princess is nice and all, but the maid was there supporting him from the start of his journey.

p.s. does make sense that it was axed though. And I reckon it's because of cut content, there was not really much to go off of after this arc.

The manga cut out the meeting with Charlotte, the Transfer circle discover/restoration which is what started Leold's redemption in the eyes of the crown, they cut out the Goblin Monster Rush at Zeat which the Royal Family and everyone in the Capital were flipping out about and used the Transfer circle to send reinforcements because of how bad it was reported to be(but kept the initial one (against Wyverns) which was a literal nothingburger in comparison) which all but cemented that the Leold everyone had massive expectations for before he fell and became the Golden Pig was back(all of this happened before the Tournament btw), because those were cut they couldn't bring up the War with the Empire either. Frankly I didn't understand what this adaptation was trying to do at all, they gutted the entire narrative, Sieg never awakens his power(which is a huge plot point), Leold never recruits the workforce and experts Zeat desperately needs for Research and Development from the Capital, yet somehow the developments they are the driving force to implement are somehow achieved anyway?

Not to mention changing the relationship he had with the Butler's Granddaughter(the maid), she was outright antagonistic to him upon their first meeting and by the time she left for Sieg's place she had mellowed out to a cool acceptance and acknowledgement that he has indeed changed from the Golden Pig. It isn't until her SS chapter in the WN(and subsequently her last mention in the novel at all) that she realizes how good she had it at Leold's and what she actually left Zeat for(to be a distant fringe girl amongst all the other women orbiting around Sieg) and that while Sieg and co will never treat her badly, she threw away her sibling like relationship(absolutely non romantic in nature btw) with Leold and considering the Princess and Charlotte were by his side, she'd never have that type of relationship with Leold again either.

TL;DR - Bad adaption, butchered the source material, and even worse doesn't even drive people to seek out and read the source material unless they get spoonfed all the shit the manga cut out because they'd never know about it otherwise lol.

 

[bakadrone]

exactly, if i woke up and suddenly remembered raping someone i would kill myself in shame on the spot. there is no being forgiven for rape PERIOD.

Why would you be force yourself to be laden with another's debt any more than you already are? You'd be facing a lot of hardships based on your circumstances you've landed in but why would any of it be your fault? As dumb as this manga is, the MC genuinely did the best he could with the situation he'd landed in. Killing yourself is the easy way out and doesn't help anyone but you making it an act of narcissistic self satisfaction in the end not an atonement. Living in shame and trying to help lift those around you is arguably a more extreme and protracted punishment than a quick wrist slit

 

[HelioCesar]

It isn't until her SS chapter in the WN(and subsequently her last mention in the novel at all)

do you remember the chapter number mate?

 

[Kikaibaka]

do you remember the chapter number mate?

Chapter 75

 

[HelioCesar]

Chapter 75

thanks

 

[ohms]

I'm glad this finally ended. The premise makes no absolutely fucking sense. If it's the story of redemption, at least make the MC own up his own crime and not SOMEONE ELSE'S! The talk about living your life carrying those sins which are not yours feels stupid. The poor guy did nothing wrong but need to live his second life in shame for something he never did while the original soul that did a those vile things just vanished without taking any consequences? Really? What's the story you want to tell here?

And the author shouldn't go for the rape if he wanted his character to be redeemed. That's a step too far and I personally won't accept any forgiveness for those kinds. The saintess' ignorant that killed an entire village is still more acceptable in comparison.

Overall, I think the author chose the wrong settings for whatever story he had in mind. Also, this has no reason to be an Isekai whatsoever if he wanted it to be a story of redemption. I feel like he chose this just to jump in Isekai bandwagon: 4/10 from me.

 

[Bobdillan69]

Imagine calling rape "politics" you're sick bro

"All you boys" is the politics part lmao.

Which is blatant Misandry, and a self-righteous statement, that was also hilariously wrong and not only ignorant but also arrogant.

So chill with the straw-man arguments, and actually think for 2 seconds before you comment something that stupid.

 

[Bobdillan69]

The manga cut out the meeting with Charlotte, the Transfer circle discover/restoration which is what started Leold's redemption in the eyes of the crown, they cut out the Goblin Monster Rush at Zeat which the Royal Family and everyone in the Capital were flipping out about and used the Transfer circle to send reinforcements because of how bad it was reported to be(but kept the initial one (against Wyverns) which was a literal nothingburger in comparison) which all but cemented that the Leold everyone had massive expectations for before he fell and became the Golden Pig was back(all of this happened before the Tournament btw), because those were cut they couldn't bring up the War with the Empire either. Frankly I didn't understand what this adaptation was trying to do at all, they gutted the entire narrative, Sieg never awakens his power(which is a huge plot point), Leold never recruits the workforce and experts Zeat desperately needs for Research and Development from the Capital, yet somehow the developments they are the driving force to implement are somehow achieved anyway?

Not to mention changing the relationship he had with the Butler's Granddaughter(the maid), she was outright antagonistic to him upon their first meeting and by the time she left for Sieg's place she had mellowed out to a cool acceptance and acknowledgement that he has indeed changed from the Golden Pig. It isn't until her SS chapter in the WN(and subsequently her last mention in the novel at all) that she realizes how good she had it at Leold's and what she actually left Zeat for(to be a distant fringe girl amongst all the other women orbiting around Sieg) and that while Sieg and co will never treat her badly, she threw away her sibling like relationship(absolutely non romantic in nature btw) with Leold and considering the Princess and Charlotte were by his side, she'd never have that type of relationship with Leold again either.

TL;DR - Bad adaption, butchered the source material, and even worse doesn't even drive people to seek out and read the source material unless they get spoonfed all the shit the manga cut out because they'd never know about it otherwise lol.

While I won't say the adaptation was good. Sound like the source material was it's own can of worms being all over the place tbh.

 

[exxeld]

Rather tame and rushed ending but truthfully I did like seeing MC's efforts. I don't quite get the discourse is about mc feeling bad about his previous body owners actions like wouldn't you guys also try to seek redemption in his scenario lmao. If you plan on living in a righteous way as mc from the start wanted to, there wasn't really any path but the one of action he took. Frankly from what I've read tho I'll check out the novel since I like what I've seen so far even if its been gutted a bit.

 

[exxeld]

The manga cut out the meeting with Charlotte, the Transfer circle discover/restoration which is what started Leold's redemption in the eyes of the crown, they cut out the Goblin Monster Rush at Zeat which the Royal Family and everyone in the Capital were flipping out about and used the Transfer circle to send reinforcements because of how bad it was reported to be(but kept the initial one (against Wyverns) which was a literal nothingburger in comparison) which all but cemented that the Leold everyone had massive expectations for before he fell and became the Golden Pig was back(all of this happened before the Tournament btw), because those were cut they couldn't bring up the War with the Empire either. Frankly I didn't understand what this adaptation was trying to do at all, they gutted the entire narrative, Sieg never awakens his power(which is a huge plot point), Leold never recruits the workforce and experts Zeat desperately needs for Research and Development from the Capital, yet somehow the developments they are the driving force to implement are somehow achieved anyway?

Not to mention changing the relationship he had with the Butler's Granddaughter(the maid), she was outright antagonistic to him upon their first meeting and by the time she left for Sieg's place she had mellowed out to a cool acceptance and acknowledgement that he has indeed changed from the Golden Pig. It isn't until her SS chapter in the WN(and subsequently her last mention in the novel at all) that she realizes how good she had it at Leold's and what she actually left Zeat for(to be a distant fringe girl amongst all the other women orbiting around Sieg) and that while Sieg and co will never treat her badly, she threw away her sibling like relationship(absolutely non romantic in nature btw) with Leold and considering the Princess and Charlotte were by his side, she'd never have that type of relationship with Leold again either.

TL;DR - Bad adaption, butchered the source material, and even worse doesn't even drive people to seek out and read the source material unless they get spoonfed all the shit the manga cut out because they'd never know about it otherwise lol.

That is an enormous amount of material gutted lmao and basically covers all of my questions towards Leo's actions. I was wondering why the princess would be even interested in talking to the exiled uh rape circle dude lmao but I'll peep the novel the setting and scenario are a bit more fleshed out. Seems like they just concentrated on the essence of mc's redemption with the manga which kinda works but reading this quite a lot has changed lmao.

 

[bakadrone]

It wasn’t me, it was the alcohol! It wasn’t me, it was the meth! It wasn’t me, I had a gambling addiction!

All you boys need to think about what accountability means, and if that can start from thinking about how a character in an eroge isekai shouldn’t simply be forgiven for their past, so be it.

That's a apples to oranges comparison. All of those things are things are things that are willingly done. The MC never raped or harassed anyone. While he can't change peoples perception of the things the previous owner did in his new body, accountability doesn't really factor into it so much as an unwilling penance for sins he never committed. MC may not be easily or ever forgiven but that doesn't transmute the sins of a third party onto him that makes him the victim of a horrible tragedy he has to make the best of.