Noa-senpai wa Tomodachi. - Vol. 7 Ch. 62 - Noa-Senpai and Osaka

[mug3n]

Weebs are so funny man. As if Japan doesn't produce an absolute torrent of dogshit content just like any entertainment industry. The worst stuff doesn't even get translated and still half the manga on this site are some variation on "I got reincarnated as a strong guy that has sex with lots of slaves".

95% of what is being produced in the anime and manga industry is disposable dogshit of different flavours, in general. Which is not different from the western cultural output. Very funny keep having this "I'm not like other girls" attitude about it.

 

[Chronigan]

Negi needs to stop ticking ALL THE BOXES or there will be riots. Now I have a problem deciding which one is sexier. Mr. Gutter Brain though ... he doesn't have that problem. He'll take both ... the bastard.

I would say Negi is hot while Noa is cute.

 

[Chronigan]

Honestly, this has become a large problem in society, especially in the west. Not maturing past 19 is crazy work and is why many adults still act like children. Maturing doesn't mean giving up on life, but instead is like Negi kept trying to get at, "not acting like a brat."

Noa's biggest issue is that she acts like a child with zero care of boundaries or nuance or care for what anyone other than herself wants. That's exactly how many 19 year olds act and not maturing past that is ridiculous and exactly why she has no friends outside of them two (I don't count the weirdo obsessive stalker girl). To say that's normal and how many real world people feel is a bit sad.

I would argue it is not something that is just now becoming a problem, but has always been the way things are. "High school never ends" as they sing. People may gain more experience as they get older, and become more conservative, but the core of who they are stays the same.

 

[xdharish]

Abs

 

[Kaarme]

Weebs are so funny man. As if Japan doesn't produce an absolute torrent of dogshit content just like any entertainment industry. The worst stuff doesn't even get translated and still half the manga on this site are some variation on "I got reincarnated as a strong guy that has sex with lots of slaves".

I can't say I'd see the connection to what I wrote. Dogshit content is an integral part of entertainment industry. If something sells, it's a perfect product, no matter if it had zero innovation and was nothing but a mountain of tropes and cliches. That seems to work in Japan, still today, which is why we have all the endless copy-pasta trash isekai. There's a huge demand for it, so the authors, many utterly talentless, provide it. What I was referring to are the Western products where the team forgot they are supposed to be maximising sales. Instead they inject all sorts of ideology into the product, which may look good or ethical on paper, but it's not what the majority of customers are looking for when they just want to enjoy some pastime playing a game or watching a movie. They aren't looking forward to political ideology lessons.

 

[wandere]

Weebs are so funny man. As if Japan doesn't produce an absolute torrent of dogshit content just like any entertainment industry. The worst stuff doesn't even get translated and still half the manga on this site are some variation on "I got reincarnated as a strong guy that has sex with lots of slaves".

The way I see it, a lot of this stuff isn't even mainstream. From what I understand, a good amount of anime doesn't even air at peak times or on popular channels in the first place and on top of that how many isekai anime (although I don't think the problem is isekai, I think it's light novel adaptations) can you count that have had any lasting impact on either Western or Japanese anime/manga culture?
What, like Konosuba, Overlord, Goblin Slayer I guess (but that feels like more of a Western thing given never getting a second season), Re:Zero, Mushoku Tensei, Sword Art Online, this is digging really deep into an entirely different era of non-isekai slop but Spice and Wolf; I'm counting specifically things where characters from these series have had a lasting effect on the culture, evergreen waifus/husbandos, etc. and you can really only count them on two hands, maybe a bit more if you stretch. I just realized you kind of had the same point as me; yeah no matter where you go people make awful content; I think weebs would see a lot of parallels between themselves and the conflict between the booktok community and the "contemporary" book community if they checked.

 

[wandere]

I can't say I'd see the connection to what I wrote. Dogshit content is an integral part of entertainment industry. If something sells, it's a perfect product, no matter if it had zero innovation and was nothing but a mountain of tropes and cliches. That seems to work in Japan, still today, which is why we have all the endless copy-pasta trash isekai. There's a huge demand for it, so the authors, many utterly talentless, provide it. What I was referring to are the Western products where the team forgot they are supposed to be maximising sales. Instead they inject all sorts of ideology into the product, which may look good or ethical on paper, but it's not what the majority of customers are looking for when they just want to enjoy some pastime playing a game or watching a movie. They aren't looking forward to political ideology lessons.

I would agree, yeah
People want to be entertained more than they want to be informed or enlightened, which does make me disappointed in humanity but that's how it is I guess. I would counter that there is plenty of Japanese media, even anime and manga, that is pushing an ideology; we (or maybe I'm not part of we since I try to research this) just don't notice because we aren't immersed in the culture. GATE is an extremely obvious example of pushing Japanese nationalism and you will see this in a lot of dungeon or gate-type ln stuff, if not just original manga as well. Some manga clearly is pushing a mean spirited perspective of one group or another (oftentimes women in my experience but it could be men as well). People will talk about "talk no jutsu" or "why does the protagonist forgive the villain"; that is also ideaology. When it comes down to it, everything is political, and if it seems like it isn't, you just can't see the message.

 

[Kaarme]

I would agree, yeah
People want to be entertained more than they want to be informed or enlightened, which does make me disappointed in humanity but that's how it is I guess. I would counter that there is plenty of Japanese media, even anime and manga, that is pushing an ideology; we (or maybe I'm not part of we since I try to research this) just don't notice because we aren't immersed in the culture. GATE is an extremely obvious example of pushing Japanese nationalism and you will see this in a lot of dungeon or gate-type ln stuff, if not just original manga as well. Some manga clearly is pushing a mean spirited perspective of one group or another (oftentimes women in my experience but it could be men as well). People will talk about "talk no jutsu" or "why does the protagonist forgive the villain"; that is also ideaology. When it comes down to it, everything is political, and if it seems like it isn't, you just can't see the message.

That's true indeed. Cheap nationalism, like I tend to call it, is an interesting aspect of the ideology injection because it can actually easily increase sales. In many countries the audience loves to see their own nation and culture to be compared positively to others. You see this in a huge portion of the isekai, where the Japanese person reincarnated or transported into a European fantasy looking land starts to bring civilisation to the poor, ignorant locals. Often civilisation they historically should already have, but the author injecting cheap nationalism couldn't care less and the audience loves it. The Japanese audience, that is, because the international audience doesn't exist as a concept for many Japanese authors.

 

[Chronigan]

The way I see it, a lot of this stuff isn't even mainstream. From what I understand, a good amount of anime doesn't even air at peak times or on popular channels in the first place and on top of that how many isekai anime (although I don't think the problem is isekai, I think it's light novel adaptations) can you count that have had any lasting impact on either Western or Japanese anime/manga culture?
What, like Konosuba, Overlord, Goblin Slayer I guess (but that feels like more of a Western thing given never getting a second season), Re:Zero, Mushoku Tensei, Sword Art Online, this is digging really deep into an entirely different era of non-isekai slop but Spice and Wolf; I'm counting specifically things where characters from these series have had a lasting effect on the culture, evergreen waifus/husbandos, etc. and you can really only count them on two hands, maybe a bit more if you stretch. I just realized you kind of had the same point as me; yeah no matter where you go people make awful content; I think weebs would see a lot of parallels between themselves and the conflict between the booktok community and the "contemporary" book community if they checked.

Anime is simply a long ad, made to sell the source material and other merchandise. They are on late at night or early in the morning because it is cheap to purchase that air time.

 

[terribletrivium]

What I was referring to are the Western products where the team forgot they are supposed to be maximising sales. Instead they inject all sorts of ideology into the product, which may look good or ethical on paper, but it's not what the majority of customers are looking for when they just want to enjoy some pastime playing a game or watching a movie. They aren't looking forward to political ideology lessons.

This barely exists in reality and is really just a reactionary boogieman. I can't think of a single game I played in the past 5 years that was ruined by political ideology lessons. In fact most of my favorite games do contain political ideology because that's interesting. I'm sure you can name one or two games/movies but pretending the industry is compromised probably comes from reading too much internet propaganda and not actually engaging with the media.

I pointed out manga schlock because it's exactly what you're describing Western media as doing, pandering to nationalist political ideology. But just because something is pandering doesn't mean it's not "trying to entertain".

 

[Hardik_7547]

Her friend has the perfect body.

Thanks a lot for the translations.

 

[rotationplus]

Was I the only one here who read this as “for this character model we should adjust how shadows on it look” instead of “omg Noa is making their character less black, western devs would never”

not even just that, skin shades are different at different places, like the front and back of your hand.

also, ignore button

 

[Adrzni]

Does anyone know what "Bari", like at page 8, means? I feel like it shows up often.

 

[walterium]

I can't say I'd see the connection to what I wrote. Dogshit content is an integral part of entertainment industry. If something sells, it's a perfect product, no matter if it had zero innovation and was nothing but a mountain of tropes and cliches. That seems to work in Japan, still today, which is why we have all the endless copy-pasta trash isekai. There's a huge demand for it, so the authors, many utterly talentless, provide it. What I was referring to are the Western products where the team forgot they are supposed to be maximising sales. Instead they inject all sorts of ideology into the product, which may look good or ethical on paper, but it's not what the majority of customers are looking for when they just want to enjoy some pastime playing a game or watching a movie. They aren't looking forward to political ideology lessons.

You fell for the propaganda my guy

 

[Kaarme]

You fell for the propaganda my guy

Why do you think people say the 80's had the best action movies? Hint: it's not just nostalgia. Political correctness has also killed a big portion of comedy. But anyway, I'm through with this discussion already. The heat has already dissipated.