Kanojo ni Uwaki Sareteita Ore ga, Koakuma na Kouhai ni Natsukareteimasu - Ch. 31

[Chaos47]

you are crazy and very stupid bro 🤢

Grow up child.

 

[Emeralh]

Gg Natsuki, you basically killed the perfect relationship your best friend had o7 And Reina never voicing her concerns at all and listening to EVERYONE except the two related person only to "try cheating" is dumb af...

 

[18thMoon]

I mean I think Natsuki is the most level headed out of the 4 people involed though...
She is exactly right when she says the MC has continued to be spoiled and babied by the people that he fortunately surrounds himself with. He's just kind of an airhead that somewhat lacks consideration.

What? How the hell is Yuuta an air head who lacks consideration when both times Reina brought up Ayaka, he reassured her, and that’s without even knowing the full context, because she never communicated her insecurities about him being close to her?

And the fact that you're trying to give Natsuki credit for calling Yuuta "spoiled" is wild, because in reality, she enabled Reina’s behavior by jumping to conclusions and saying Yuuta was cheating, all based on societal norms. At the time, she didn’t even know him. And when she finally does meet Yuuta, she’s already casting judgment just because he has a female best friend? That’s not normal.

Let’s not forget, when Natsuki met Yuuta, he wasn’t even in a relationship. He was free to hang out with whoever he wanted. So for you to say, “Natsuki was right”? No, she was dead wrong. She cast judgment on someone she had never met, planted doubt in Reina’s mind, and helped ruin a relationship based on nothing but her own bias.

And now you want to sit here and praise her for that? That’s insane. If you really want, we can break it down point by point and show how Yuuta was actually considerate of Reina’s feelings, even when she failed to communicate them.

 

[18thMoon]

that might be the only point I agree on when it comes to Natsuki doing anything correctly.

Everything else she's contributed to the story thus far has been at best pointless, at worst actively detrimental to everyone involved.

What? You can't be serious. There's no way deserves Natsuki credit for casting judgement on someone she didn't know.

 

[UdenEmpati]

What? You can't be serious. There's no way deserves Natsuki credit for casting judgement on someone she didn't know.

Well, no - I'm only saying that I'm kind of in agreement that Yuuta is rather spoiled by the people around him.

While he's certainly not the worst version of the Male MC RomCom Protagonist, he does in fact take considerable advantage of his Kouhai's willingness to cook and clean for him and offers relatively little in return (in my mind, I mean - as far as I can tell she's kind of just a domestic housewife but doesn't seem to get any of the perks that would otherwise entail).
Ayaka I would say has a more balanced relationship with him, but Yuuta still gets coddled by her from time to time, and while maybe I'm just not remembering, I feel like he takes more than he gives in their friendship, at least outside of flashbacks (she's generally more competent and put-together in University stuff, though I will allow that Yuuta was coming off a major depressive episode at the start of the anime and would have thus understandably would be a bit of a shut-in).

Natsuki's a bitch and I'm not going to say she's redeemable as a character for her hand in ruining Yuuta and Reina's relationship. But, "broken clocks are right twice a day", as it were.

 

[18thMoon]

Well, no - I'm only saying that I'm kind of in agreement that Yuuta is rather spoiled by the people around him.

While he's certainly not the worst version of the Male MC RomCom Protagonist, he does in fact take considerable advantage of his Kouhai's willingness to cook and clean for him and offers relatively little in return (in my mind, I mean - as far as I can tell she's kind of just a domestic housewife but doesn't seem to get any of the perks that would otherwise entail).
Ayaka I would say has a more balanced relationship with him, but Yuuta still gets coddled by her from time to time, and while maybe I'm just not remembering, I feel like he takes more than he gives in their friendship, at least outside of flashbacks (she's generally more competent and put-together in University stuff, though I will allow that Yuuta was coming off a major depressive episode at the start of the anime and would have thus understandably would be a bit of a shut-in).

Natsuki's a bitch and I'm not going to say she's redeemable as a character for her hand in ruining Yuuta and Reina's relationship. But, "broken clocks are right twice a day", as it were.

Maybe Yuuta is a little spoiled... but can you really hold that against him? He has a best friend like Ayaka who looks out for him, and Mayu, who shows up at his place to spend time with him and cook — not because he asks her to, but because she chooses to. And sometimes, they cook together and just enjoy each other’s company. That’s not being spoiled... that’s just having genuine connections.

And let’s not forget — he’s single. He’s allowed to live like that. But Natsuki comes in with this judgmental attitude, acting like he’s being babied by the women around him. From the outside looking in, I get how it might seem that way... but context matters. If he had still been in a relationship with Reina — which, let’s be honest, Natsuki helped ruin — things probably wouldn’t have looked like that at all.

To me, Natsuki comes off as someone who thinks Yuuta has to meet some unrealistic standard just to be "worthy" of Reina. But the truth is, he was a good match for her. He cared, he showed up, and he did his best. And instead of supporting that, Natsuki helped tear it down.

 

[UdenEmpati]

Maybe Yuuta is a little spoiled... but can you really hold that against him? He has a best friend like Ayaka who looks out for him, and Mayu, who shows up at his place to spend time with him and cook — not because he asks her to, but because she chooses to. And sometimes, they cook together and just enjoy each other’s company. That’s not being spoiled... that’s just having genuine connections.

And let’s not forget — he’s single. He’s allowed to live like that. But Natsuki comes in with this judgmental attitude, acting like he’s being babied by the women around him. From the outside looking in, I get how it might seem that way... but context matters. If he had still been in a relationship with Reina — which, let’s be honest, Natsuki helped ruin — things probably wouldn’t have looked like that at all.

To me, Natsuki comes off as someone who thinks Yuuta has to meet some unrealistic standard just to be "worthy" of Reina. But the truth is, he was a good match for her. He cared, he showed up, and he did his best. And instead of supporting that, Natsuki helped tear it down.

You're not wrong. I think part of it is my own bias towards the kind of person Yuuta is, colored by things that shouldn't be used in judging his character. I will readily admit I don't have the most objective view of his character in that regard, so I'll concede that it's me holding him to a higher standard than might be reasonable, given the context of everything as you pointed out.

But I agree with you about Natsuki otherwise, yes. Reina as a character makes me mad in a lot of ways, but Natsuki I actively dislike just in the story at large (she plays her role well insofar as the things the author wants her to do, of course) - but I would never want to associate with her were she a real person, yeah.

 

[Tsundeneko]

Thanks Author, For Proving the Mc is not Fucking Wrong at all!!, what the fuck is reina doing here!? Being Insecure!? Mate, Your Relationship can be save if you TALK ABOUT IT WITH YOUR PARTNER!, My god this shit is too stupid

 

[Monkey_King123]

Grow up child.

I've grown up, kid. You who can't differentiate between right and wrong are the ones who should grow up, kid

 

[Monkey_King123]

Whenever a woman cheats then some people acts like she killed the mc entire family or made it sound like the she is worst the villain that's trying to take over the world or that she is worst then the murderer while putting women that cheat out of their own free will or just out of spite in the same boat as that were forced or manipulated. And if it's a guy that's cheating out of his own free will then some of the same people starts to praise him for the cheating.

because the girl who cheats in a romance fiction story is an antagonist like the antagonist in a fiction story who kills the MC's family and tries to take over the world. I'm confused how you equate two different things and I even doubt your sense of morality that normalizes cheating. Dude, is your moral awareness thinning because you read too much pornographic manhwa?

 

[Leeds_ultra]

because the girl who cheats in a romance fiction story is an antagonist like the antagonist in a fiction story who kills the MC's family and tries to take over the world. I'm confused how you equate two different things and I even doubt your sense of morality that normalizes cheating. Dude, is your moral awareness thinning because you read too much pornographic manhwa?

Say's the guy who is acting like holding hands is on the same level as those villain's and acting like she is cheating when all she did was hold hands, before I became a teenager the teacher's used to hold the hands of me and my classmates when the entire class when to the park does that mean they were cheating on their wives and husband's. And if Reina accepted his advances and then goes on a date with him then she would be cheating in stead what happened us that she hold the guys hand and she then rejected the guy's advances in the original story by pushing him to the ground. Also there is a non porn manga about the mc getting revenge on his cheating girlfriend by cheating on with with the other guys girlfriend and their are other work's we're the mc cheats on his loyal wife. And yet you are putting Reina who only hold hands because she was being manipulated and she chose refuse the guys advances and you are acting like she just as bad as those cheater if the story was about the mc cheating on his loyal wife would you be praiseing the mc. And would you still be calling Reina a cheater if the roles were swiped.

 

[Leeds_ultra]

because the girl who cheats in a romance fiction story is an antagonist like the antagonist in a fiction story who kills the MC's family and tries to take over the world. I'm confused how you equate two different things and I even doubt your sense of morality that normalizes cheating. Dude, is your moral awareness thinning because you read too much pornographic manhwa?

Say's the guy who is acting like holding hands is on the same level as those villain's and acting like she is cheating when also she did was hold hands and refused his advances and in the original went as far as to push the guy, if she accepted his advances and went on a real date with him or if she went to a love hotel then that would be cheating, or are you saying that when I a still between the age of 4 and 10 that when the teacher's at the school when they hold the hands of me and my classmates when we went to the park were cheating on their husband's and wife's with me and my classmates at the time, or what about two people holding hands to make sure the other is safe in a dark cave in the end holding hands does not all mean cheating, and Reina is not even an antagonist the main antagonist is meant to be Natsuki.

 

[Leeds_ultra]

because the girl who cheats in a romance fiction story is an antagonist like the antagonist in a fiction story who kills the MC's family and tries to take over the world. I'm confused how you equate two different things and I even doubt your sense of morality that normalizes cheating. Dude, is your moral awareness thinning because you read too much pornographic manhwa?

And I do live in a country were holding hands is normal and there were lots of times when the teacher's at the school would have everyone hold hands this even happened in highschool

 

[Leeds_ultra]

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[Leeds_ultra]

because the girl who cheats in a romance fiction story is an antagonist like the antagonist in a fiction story who kills the MC's family and tries to take over the world. I'm confused how you equate two different things and I even doubt your sense of morality that normalizes cheating. Dude, is your moral awareness thinning because you read too much pornographic manhwa?

And I do live in a country were holding hands is more normal then Japan and there were lots of times when the teacher's at the school's I went to would have everyone hold hands this even happened in highschool and yes that would mean that sometime a classmate that is dating an other classmate or someone in a different class would have to hold hands with a classmate they were not dating

 

[Monkey_King123]

Say's the guy who is acting like holding hands is on the same level as those villain's and acting like she is cheating when all she did was hold hands, before I became a teenager the teacher's used to hold the hands of me and my classmates when the entire class when to the park does that mean they were cheating on their wives and husband's. And if Reina accepted his advances and then goes on a date with him then she would be cheating in stead what happened us that she hold the guys hand and she then rejected the guy's advances in the original story by pushing him to the ground. Also there is a non porn manga about the mc getting revenge on his cheating girlfriend by cheating on with with the other guys girlfriend and their are other work's we're the mc cheats on his loyal wife. And yet you are putting Reina who only hold hands because she was being manipulated and she chose refuse the guys advances and you are acting like she just as bad as those cheater if the story was about the mc cheating on his loyal wife would you be praiseing the mc. And would you still be calling Reina a cheater if the roles were swiped.

Say's the guy who is acting like holding hands is on the same level as those villain's and acting like she is cheating when also she did was hold hands and refused his advances and in the original went as far as to push the guy, if she accepted his advances and went on a real date with him or if she went to a love hotel then that would be cheating, or are you saying that when I a still between the age of 4 and 10 that when the teacher's at the school when they hold the hands of me and my classmates when we went to the park were cheating on their husband's and wife's with me and my classmates at the time, or what about two people holding hands to make sure the other is safe in a dark cave in the end holding hands does not all mean cheating, and Reina is not even an antagonist the main antagonist is meant to be Natsuki.

And I do live in a country were holding hands is normal and there were lots of times when the teacher's at the school would have everyone hold hands this even happened in highschool

And I do live in a country were holding hands is more normal then Japan and there were lots of times when the teacher's at the school's I went to would have everyone hold hands this even happened in highschool and yes that would mean that sometime a classmate that is dating an other classmate or someone in a different class would have to hold hands with a classmate they were not dating

Once again your comparison is very strange!! before you were a teenager? before you were a teenager???! huh?!! what was on your mind???!! were you still in elementary school?? you mean you're comparing yourself and your classmate whose hand was held by your teacher when you were in elementary school????! do you think holding hands as a child with a married person can be compared to real cheating??? unless your teacher is a pedophile and yes of course that can be considered cheating, Lol.

don't even try to compare it with the representation of keeping someone safe when in a cave or when told by a high school teacher to hold hands with Holding Hands in intention of cheating, because those are clearly two different things!!! of course you have to hold on to the girl even if she's not your girlfriend when in a cave to stay safe because it's an emergency!! even firefighters have to carry women who are not their girlfriends or wives to save them, do you not understand even a simple thing like that???!

also don't compare the normality of your country with this manga that is set in Japan!! do you think I live in your country?

while Reina clearly had no emergency and was purely trying to cheat, it's true that Natsuki was also the antagonist because she provoked Reina but Reina was also wrong because she was so stupid! Many have said it, Reina doesn't want to communicate better with Yuuta! just read the comments of people in this forum! the problem could have been solved and she wouldn't have tried to cheat if she wanted to tell Yuuta what she thought and she actually told him what she thought after cheating, it's too late to know!

 

[Rhin]

The funny thing about that whole "here in society we call that a date" is that we actually don't. If both people don't see it as a romantic get together, then it's not a date, like at all.
Or is yuuta not allowed to have female friends cause reina gets jealous? He can only have guy friends? So what if one of those guys was gay? Then he can't hang out with that guy either? It's kinda an extreme example, but it serves to show JUST HOW RETARDED Reina's mentality is.

 

[Grogzilla]

None of y'all can behave so I'm locking the thread