Senki Survival Saga - Isekai no Unmei o Kaketa Mujintou Fujun Iseikouyuu - Ch. 17 - The power level of earthly desires is 530,000

[PrinceMao]

https://imgur.com/a/pe8Ajev

 

[Nick86]

The reason why they couldnt see the island at the sea level is because it was hidden by the horizon because its relative flat, with elevation they could because of perspective as well the horizon line being moved further back. Its the same as looking at a sheet of paper looking at it strait and then move the eyes up.

There are video on YT that show clearly, that at sea level, because it at sea level that you have to do the test and with a precision laser device (aka at fixed height), you can go beyond the so called "curvature", of course is you go more height over the sea level you can see more wider but is not how you test it and even so should be impossible to see beyond a certain point, but with a zoom you can. But again is not the place to discuss about this, i do not want to convince anyone, and my initial comment was about human eye, perspective and fake news in fictions, i still think these things shouldn't be in comics, expecially fantasy comics with magic as a baseline lore.

 

[radstylix]

the flat earther in this comment section is probably just rage bating (or maybe i still have a bit too much hope in humanity and common sense)

I was hoping I somehow misread what the guy was saying 😅

 

[Exile]

There are video on YT that show clearly, that at sea level, because it at sea level that you have to do the test and with a precision laser device (aka at fixed height), you can go beyond the so called "curvature", of course is you go more height over the sea level you can see more wider but is not how you test it and even so should be impossible to see beyond a certain point, but with a zoom you can. But again is not the place to discuss about this, i do not want to convince anyone, and my initial comment was about human eye, perspective and fake news in fictions, i still think these things shouldn't be in comics, expecially fantasy comics with magic as a baseline lore.

You know, I asked ChatGPT since you guys seem to like AI so much about why and here it is ...

Lasers appear to curve with the Earth's curvature not because the laser beam itself is bending in response to gravity, but because of the geometry of the Earth and the way light travels through the atmosphere. Here's a breakdown of what’s happening:

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🌍 1. Earth's Curvature and Line of Sight​

On a curved surface like Earth:

• A perfectly straight laser beam (assuming it travels in a vacuum with no atmospheric interference) would appear to rise above the ground over long distances.
• This is because the Earth’s surface curves away beneath the beam. So if you shine a laser horizontally, over enough distance, the beam will not follow the curve of the Earth—it will keep going straight, while the Earth curves downward.

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🌫️ 2. Atmospheric Refraction​

However, on Earth, lasers don’t travel through a vacuum—they travel through the atmosphere. The atmosphere:

• Has layers of different densities.
• Bends light slightly downward, a phenomenon called refraction.

This refraction causes the laser beam to slightly curve, making it appear to "hug" the curvature of the Earth more than it would in a vacuum.


In some cases, this bending can partially compensate for the Earth’s curvature, making a laser visible at distances where it otherwise wouldn’t be if the beam traveled in a perfectly straight line.

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📐 3. Practical Implications​

This is why:

• In some long-range laser tests (like those by flat-Earth debaters), lasers seem to “follow” the surface.
• But in reality, both Earth’s curvature and atmospheric refraction must be considered to explain what’s observed.

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Summary:​

• Lasers travel in straight lines in a vacuum.
• On Earth, they don’t "curve" with the Earth, but the Earth curves away from the beam.
• The atmosphere bends the laser beam slightly downward due to refraction, which can make it appear to follow the Earth's curve.

So are you saying there is no atmosphere on Earth?

 

[JVick]

There are video on YT that show clearly, that at sea level, because it at sea level that you have to do the test and with a precision laser device (aka at fixed height), you can go beyond the so called "curvature", of course is you go more height over the sea level you can see more wider but is not how you test it and even so should be impossible to see beyond a certain point, but with a zoom you can. But again is not the place to discuss about this, i do not want to convince anyone, and my initial comment was about human eye, perspective and fake news in fictions, i still think these things shouldn't be in comics, expecially fantasy comics with magic as a baseline lore.

The classic combo 'I've seen this on YouTube' + 'I don't want to argue' (after arguing from page one) to avoid looking at certain messages.

 

[lenovoaxioo]

hey, for once punching yourself in a dream actually works as a test

 

[Me]

Bro just wants to survive but for some reason his chastity is in danger

That's the title of an isekai series, mark my words.

 

[Nick86]

You know, I asked ChatGPT

I stopped read here, chatgpt is full of shit and fake informations. AI is fake, is just humans who put the info they want into an algoritm.

 

[ARealCoolGuy]

"No no, you guys only saw the eleven dagger, easy mistake."

 

[Nick86]

The classic combo 'I've seen this on YouTube' + 'I don't want to argue' (after arguing from page one) to avoid looking at certain messages.

These are scientific proof and evidence made with a laser device, the human eye is made in a way that have a limited field of view. Is real science, empirical. Author know nothing about it, he probably copied some info from fake ai chatgpt or the publisher told him.

 

[Speederzdk]

The classic combo 'I've seen this on YouTube' + 'I don't want to argue' (after arguing from page one) to avoid looking at certain messages.

My favorite is him saying real science is “politics” and “fake news” that shouldn’t be in manga. That one got a kick out of me

 

[Mukapower3]

Rise of Rock dragon.

 

[radstylix]

These are scientific proof and evidence made with a laser device, the human eye is made in a way that have a limited field of view. Is real science, empirical. Author know nothing about it, he probably copied some info from fake ai chatgpt or the publisher told him.

Bro just drop it. You're the one who brought it up in the first place, and calling the author "spreading propaganda/fake news" when the author is not here to defend himself from your nonsense is the real reason that's making everyone here angry at you.

Whatever you believe what the facts are (even if they're extremely wrong, my dad was a pilot), the way you're doing it right now is NOT helping your case.

 

[jinhong91]

It is rock hard after all

 

[Nick86]

Bro just drop it. You're the one who brought it up in the first place, and calling the author "spreading propaganda/fake news" when the author is not here to defend himself from your nonsense is the real reason that's making everyone here angry at you.

Whatever you believe what the facts are (even if they're extremely wrong, my dad was a pilot), the way you're doing it right now is NOT helping your case.

Right, this is a work of fiction so i do not have issues at all, i'm against any form of censorship in the good and the bad, i just point out a trend i see often lately even when is not needed at all, but is my personal opinion, you can ignore it, nothing will change at all in the end, author will do whatever he want, you know better than me.

 

[Wolfwod]

So much Anastasia discrimination

 

[Tiypo]

These are scientific proof and evidence made with a laser device, the human eye is made in a way that have a limited field of view. Is real science, empirical. Author know nothing about it, he probably copied some info from fake ai chatgpt or the publisher told him.

Well the AI is right this time. Light refracting in the atmoshphere is a well known fact. It's why sunsets appear to linger at the horizon, when in fact the sun will already be below it.

 

[Docman]

Right, this is a work of fiction so i do not have issues at all, i'm against any form of censorship in the good and the bad, i just point out a trend i see often lately even when is not needed at all, but is my personal opinion, you can ignore it, nothing will change at all in the end, author will do whatever he want, you know better than me.

There are a lot of scientific videos disproving laser theories, maybe you should check that out. With an open mind i mean, you don't need to take it as political propaganda it's just science fact.

 

[Nick86]

Laser is not a theory, it goes straight from point a to b, is a very accurate test anyone can do, i'm confident in my research after saw many videos in the matter. But again, this argoument is vaste, i just point out my pov, this is not the place to discuss about it or we end up to debate for pages.

 

[theman10]

idk why these black boxes keep showing up when there's nothing to censor underneath them

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ngl this kind of manga terrorism usually gets an automatic 1-star rating from me, but maybe it'll turn out to be one of those inexplicable late bloomer series like Tales of Wedding Rings where several books in it's suddenly just "oh yeah we never had to steamcensor anything in the first place, did we"

/shrug

The artist had a comment about this on X, they didn't seem to be a fan of it either. Apparently the publisher of the web version is really strict about nudity/fanservice.

https://x.com/OtosamaLeong/status/1929703603482316886