Takou no Koori Hime wo Tasuketara, Otomodachi kara Hajimeru Koto ni Narimashita - Ch. 10

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Thanks a lot for picking it up, would've been a shame if it suddenly stopped.

This manga really does make you smile the whole way when you are reading it, similar vibes to 'Angel Next Door Spoils me Rotten'
 
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Do these kids do anything other than studying? They just passed the test, they should celebrate.
 
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I like to think I'm pretty okay at getting into the heads of characters and experiencing the story from their perspective.
But if I could have one thing - it would be the cultural context that goes into calling someone by their first name, rather than their surname.

It seems like such a big deal and I just lack the relevant societal background to truly understand it, because I don't think there's a good equivalent in my country for how important it seems to be.

And I feel like if I truly got that aspect, these sorts of stories would be all the more enjoyable (and they're already fun to read, as-is).

Just...the way they both light up the room when they hear their name said by the other?
I have no reference for that, and I feel like my life is kinda lacking for it (or at least my ability to truly mesh with the story).
It has to do with soto-uchi ideology and stuff. basically in Japanese they always separate things into "Us" (the inside group) and "them" (the outside group). It's a bit hard to explain but its why for example you use more polite language about other people's families than you use about your own. The less honorifics you use and then finally using someone's first name alone is like a journey from outside to inside, finally acknowledging that they are no longer "them" and are now "us". It's a very significant step and western culture just doesn't have that kinda idea of interpersonal space anymore (we used to have it a bit but that's a whole nother convo)
So ya TL:DR it's about pulling the person across interpersonal boundaries which are far more important in eastern cultures.

Not to mention you have neoconfucianism which is where the whole "calling non blood-related people brother" and stuff comes from but that's too big a convo to stick in a comment
 
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Do these kids do anything other than studying? They just passed the test, they should celebrate.
As a asian myself Ive scored decently before but I don't really celebrate my grades you do occasionally flaunt your grades but thats it. The only time you would celebrate your grades is during university acceptance or graduation. Also this is highly unrealistic cuz they will most likely get a short break after to relax and what are they even gonna study in this "session" they prolly don't even have the next term's syllabus yet.
 
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It has to do with soto-uchi ideology and stuff. basically in Japanese they always separate things into "Us" (the inside group) and "them" (the outside group). It's a bit hard to explain but its why for example you use more polite language about other people's families than you use about your own. The less honorifics you use and then finally using someone's first name alone is like a journey from outside to inside, finally acknowledging that they are no longer "them" and are now "us". It's a very significant step and western culture just doesn't have that kinda idea of interpersonal space anymore (we used to have it a bit but that's a whole nother convo)
So ya TL:DR it's about pulling the person across interpersonal boundaries which are far more important in eastern cultures.

Not to mention you have neoconfucianism which is where the whole "calling non blood-related people brother" and stuff comes from but that's too big a convo to stick in a comment
Oh yeah - I understand the functionality and the "system" of it all - but like you said, I don't have the cultural framework to fully "get" it in the way that it would make sense for someone raised in that cultural and society.
Basically - like a very, very smart fish could understand flight, but wouldn't get the feeling that comes with soaring through the skies....I understand the importance of the difference in name usage and honorifics, but the emotional weight and significance is something I lack the cultural software to truly appreciate.

Which, it's fine, can't fully understand everything in the universe. But it does kinda suck feeling like I'm missing out on the "full experience" that comes from having the intrinsic nature of how immense the changing of name usage internalized from birth, when it comes to reading manga.
 
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If you think Japanese kids study too much, that’s only because you haven’t seen how it works in China.
There's a thing called "burnout" and I know from experience that learning too much and excessively does make things worse and you are more likely to fail an exam. Also, looking at how they're mostly just learning specific things by heart and not really trying to understand the concepts behind what they learn is telling me they all don't know how you learn the best: By understanding the basics and the concepts. It takes longer, but once you get them, you don't need to learn a lot anymore, you can just derive the stuff.
 
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I like to think I'm pretty okay at getting into the heads of characters and experiencing the story from their perspective.
But if I could have one thing - it would be the cultural context that goes into calling someone by their first name, rather than their surname.

It seems like such a big deal and I just lack the relevant societal background to truly understand it, because I don't think there's a good equivalent in my country for how important it seems to be.

And I feel like if I truly got that aspect, these sorts of stories would be all the more enjoyable (and they're already fun to read, as-is).

Just...the way they both light up the room when they hear their name said by the other?
I have no reference for that, and I feel like my life is kinda lacking for it (or at least my ability to truly mesh with the story).
Japan is quite special in this case, as first name is not something anyone can speak of... It's part of their politeness and it can be traced to hundred years back. It's quite an extensive topic and requires a more in-depth research. I suggest you ask AI for general info and then delve deeper from the sources quoted from the AI. Explaining it here would be too lengthy.
 
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Japan is quite special in this case, as first name is not something anyone can speak of... It's part of their politeness and it can be traced to hundred years back. It's quite an extensive topic and requires a more in-depth research. I suggest you ask AI for general info and then delve deeper from the sources quoted from the AI. Explaining it here would be too lengthy.
Oh yeah, no I understand how it works and the general levels of familiarity and when what gets used where and with whom.
It's more that I lack the cultural upbringing to appreciate the immensity of getting to the point of "calling someone who isn't family, by their first name". There's not real equivalent in my country that matches the significance of that, and so there's a part of me that's envious, that I'll never be able to fully "get" the emotional weight that results from it.

Sort of like how - I can read accounts from astronauts who've gone into space and looked back to see the Earth below them, and all their words about how it's absolutely breathtaking and completely reorients their perspective of humanity and society and everything--but without experiencing it firsthand, I can't fully "get" that sentiment, try as I might to imagine what that scenery and emotional state must be like.
I can read all the manga in the world that sets up the growing connection between two people until they get to a first-name basis like this chapter here and understand the process and steps and background/history of how and why it goes that way, but I lack the proper upbringing and perspective to truly appreciate it, just like I can't truly appreciate what it's like to look down on our planet from up above, simply by reading interviews of people who have.
 
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There's a thing called "burnout" and I know from experience that learning too much and excessively does make things worse and you are more likely to fail an exam. Also, looking at how they're mostly just learning specific things by heart and not really trying to understand the concepts behind what they learn is telling me they all don't know how you learn the best: By understanding the basics and the concepts. It takes longer, but once you get them, you don't need to learn a lot anymore, you can just derive the stuff.
But this is a problem with the educational system worldwide, not just in Japan. You could even argue that in Asia there's a certain exaggeration in the pressure society puts on children when it comes to studying. However, when it comes to education in general, all over the world, the system is basically a bunch of rote memorization, where kids end up forgetting everything once they graduate. This current education system definitely needs to change. But the real problem is how to make that happen.
 
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But this is a problem with the educational system worldwide, not just in Japan. You could even argue that in Asia there's a certain exaggeration in the pressure society puts on children when it comes to studying. However, when it comes to education in general, all over the world, the system is basically a bunch of rote memorization, where kids end up forgetting everything once they graduate. This current education system definitely needs to change. But the real problem is how to make that happen.
Of course, but it seems to be especially bad in Southeast Asian countries. I might be biased, but that's the impression I get.

Since I never was one who could learn like that, I just brute-forced my way through the materials to understand the concepts. As a reward, I had to learn a lot less than the others once I got it. You can imagine how often I had fights with teachers because they wanted to force me to do exercises I knew didn't help me at all and would just steal my time, just because I already understood how the stuff worked. :dogkek:

How to change that? No idea, maybe the mentality of people has to change in general, away from "education is a necessary evil to get a job" to "education gives us the possibility to understand ourselves and the world better", so back to the roots, basically.
 

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