S-Kyuu Boukensha ga Ayumu Michi: Tsuihou Sareta Shounen wa Shin no Nouryoku 'Buki Master' de Sekai Saikyou ni Itaru - Vol. 2 Ch. 7

[UncleKaos]

the spoiled brat/sore loser villian trope does get old fast when it is used too often.
"I lost so i am going to kick a dragon to kill the hero because i am pissing my pants if i need to fight him again."
some bad guy tropes need to die.

 

[Rafalga]

1st para, he will back down even though later he gets forced by sasha, has his dungeon stolen by her, his plans messed up by her, and everyone still supports her, never acknowledging she did anything wrong, everything just goes right for her, and she also never understands she messed up
2nd para, from what i've read, no true heart to heart, when they talk mc silently forgives her, as till this point he had already started doing stuff for her without getting any recognition himself, and the bitch even then has the audacity to tell him, that her decision to banish him was right.


If i made any mistake which could get my hopes up to read the novel or this again, someone please correct me. This seems good but the only gripe I have with this is how much easy Sasha has everything and never faces any consequences for what she has done. Though this likely up till 250-300 chapters, and the WN is at 400+ so idk what happens then or if it gets better, spoilers appreciated.

No you are pretty spot on. Also why i dropped the novel as well.

Spoiler: Later on

It turns into a harem with a designated winner (sasha). She is completely forgiven and they start to work towards the dungeon in the demon continent when another friend of theirs gets kidnapped (again). Hyce pretty much turns into a tsundere dumbass

 

[SpeedMonkeySonic]

1st para, he will back down even though later he gets forced by sasha, has his dungeon stolen by her, his plans messed up by her, and everyone still supports her, never acknowledging she did anything wrong, everything just goes right for her, and she also never understands she messed up
2nd para, from what i've read, no true heart to heart, when they talk mc silently forgives her, as till this point he had already started doing stuff for her without getting any recognition himself, and the bitch even then has the audacity to tell him, that her decision to banish him was right.


If i made any mistake which could get my hopes up to read the novel or this again, someone please correct me. This seems good but the only gripe I have with this is how much easy Sasha has everything and never faces any consequences for what she has done. Though this likely up till 250-300 chapters, and the WN is at 400+ so idk what happens then or if it gets better, spoilers appreciated.

Oh boy if you don't like sasha you're not gonna like the latest chapter
She confessed saying she want to be a dungeon explorer with him and the mc didn't reject her
He said he'l think about it

 

[Rafalga]

If only Sasha would say "Hey Hyce i'm really sorry it was really a shity thing to kick you out without trying to train you or put you aside from the front lines for a while so we could investigate your skill, or to disregard your feelings about what the promise we made meant to you, i was childish. forgive me".
And Hyce too listened to her without cutting her off for once..

Story will show the actual abuse Hyce endured at the hand of this bitch (and the lesbian saint) later on. The kicking part is not even the worst of it.

 

[BanditHadron]

(being a master of modern weaponry without depth perception must suck).

 

[NotTako001]

Story will show the actual abuse Hyce endured at the hand of this bitch (and the lesbian saint) later on. The kicking part is not even the worst of it.

Spoiler

Does anyone ever open Sasha's eye to see the damage she done to Hyce?
Does Sasha ever say sorry?
Does she know that there are 2 person that like her in the party and want Hyce out because of that?

 

[geal]

Good thing MC still the EDGE LORD

 

[HelioCesar]

And what good would a sorry do?
Did she betray the promise they made? yes.
Did she do ANYTHING, to try and keep Hyce in the party, like let's say put him in charge of the party's finances/provisions/etc from the safety of a city, while still working on their once shared dream? no. She instead chose to kick him out of the group.

Did she even try to make a public announcement on why the kicked Hyce out of the party? no.
Was she interested even a bit to see what his being kicked out of a very prominent group would do to his reputation as an adventurer? Nah.

Did she bother to do the least bit of investigation before giving him the location of a "great" herb gathering spot that apparently nobody ever approached for whatever reason even though they could have made a killing gathering them? No, they apparently didn't even bother to do something as rudimentary as asking the guild, whose members apparently knew it was a dragon den.

Did she at least wait for him to wake up after he dropped unconscious and losing an eye from the dragon she inadvertently sent him to die to? No, she left to go to a quest, again as she did the time she kicked him from the party, she put her own self interests first, instead of even remotely considering how Hyce felt.

After all that...do you think she deserves forgiveness? Personally I would be forever pissed off because she caused me to lose an eye...(being a master of modern weaponry without depth perception must suck).

honestly?
I kinda dig his absolute refusal to even listen to her. Even if he's aware (which, seems he is) that she didn't purposefully send him off into the claws of a dragon, the fact that he's held that grudge and is steadfast in just ...not giving her the time of day is something you don't see often in even this subgenre of the revenge style stories - usually the MC caves or at least gets all flustered/stuttery around the person who kicked them out (especially when it's a girl, bonus if she was important like Sasha was), so having him just be a straight-up asshole to her and then to everyone else is enough of a change that I hope it stays that way for awhile.

I'm sure she'll be in mortal peril eventually and he'll have to decide if he's gonna save her life--and if he does, I hope he still just leaves with a "fuck you, later" and the gimmick persists all the way to the end of the story.

And I don't even hold a grudge against Sasha as a character; I just like that the ML's enough of a quasi-anti-hero that I don't want him to "soften" toward her and ruin this image he's got going on.

Don't get me wrong i'm totally cool if he never wanted to talk with her again, i'm just saying that by going from some spoilers and how these stories tend to end, he 100% will forgive her at some point, in truth he already showed some times he is not against the ideia, so the my comment was more about, if they will do it anyway they could make her show true and sincere reflection and remorse already and 'get it over'.
I do like our emo boy, i guess i'm just putting the ox in front of the carriage a bit because come on, when do these authors make a proper remorse/drama story?
But the story is cool so far and they are pretty young, i'm liking it.
Only part that don't really see as necessary and don't get the point of it is this Sasha fucktoy that i don't even remember the name that tries so hard to make her think they paring up will be a motivator to Hyde. Bro is not even subtle of what he is aiming for.

 

[capiris]

Alright cya in 3 months

 

[Moody0_0]

Did she bother to do the least bit of investigation before giving him the location of a "great" herb gathering spot that apparently nobody ever approached for whatever reason even though they could have made a killing gathering them? No, they apparently didn't even bother to do something as rudimentary as asking the guild, whose members apparently knew it was a dragon den.

Did she at least wait for him to wake up after he dropped unconscious and losing an eye from the dragon she inadvertently sent him to die to? No, she left to go to a quest, again as she did the time she kicked him from the party, she put her own self interests first, instead of even remotely considering how Hyce felt.

THIS! OMG THIS!!!!!!! While everything else you said is also true, these two things really stick out. Given how successful the party was you would think they would know about where NOT to go due to dangerous monsters. Like a dragon's den. And then just run away from the mistake not even the lowest adventurer would make.

 

[Rafalga]

Spoiler

Does anyone ever open Sasha's eye to see the damage she done to Hyce?
Does Sasha ever say sorry?
Does she know that there are 2 person that like her in the party and want Hyce out because of that?

Spoiler

-She only ever comes to understand that she really didn't need to kick him out when they open the clan house and start recruiting newbies. When she sees these guys getting trained, she thinks that was what she should have done with Hyce as well. But that's pretty much it. She was shitting on him during the day and was crying herself to sleep during the night because of what she did when they were still in the party but she never apologizes for that or talks about it too.
She also sort of realizes how useless she is without the entire party/clan wiping her ass when she and Hyce conquer a dungeon alone together. She is competently useless outside of fighting just like a classic shounen meathead battle manga protagonist unlike Hyce who is literally jack of all trades while being an S tier fighter even without his guns. He just needed training but she didn't give him the time or resources because she was a raging bitch at the time.

-She doesn't. Not in a way the Hyce from the begining of the story wanted. She more or less forced back in to his life by the author and he just gives up and forgives her after some gaslighting by the guild master since nobody around him are actually on his side expect Precia who is treated as the designated losing heroine from the start. I like her because she shits on Sasha at every chance she gets

-She learns about it when told directly to her face. As i said before, she is borderline retarded. She still can't say no to them directly and just tells them to wait till "she figures her feelings out". I think she says some sort of a "no" to Roland and she doesn't really consider lesbian saint seriously but that doesn't stop the bitch from acting obnoxious as hell which is something she doesn't correct or stop either.

 

[UdenEmpati]

Spoiler

-She only ever comes to understand that she really didn't need to kick him out when they open the clan house and start recruiting newbies. When she sees these guys getting trained, she thinks that was what she should have done with Hyce as well. But that's pretty much it. She was shitting on him during the day and was crying herself to sleep during the night because of what she did when they were still in the party but she never apologizes for that or talks about it too.
She also sort of realizes how useless she is without the entire party/clan wiping her ass when she and Hyce conquer a dungeon alone together. She is competently useless outside of fighting just like a classic shounen meathead battle manga protagonist unlike Hyce who is literally jack of all trades while being an S tier fighter even without his guns. He just needed training but she didn't give him the time or resources because she was a raging bitch at the time.

-She doesn't. Not in a way the Hyce from the begining of the story wanted. She more or less forced back in to his life by the author and he just gives up and forgives her after some gaslighting by the guild master since nobody around him are actually on his side expect Precia who is treated as the designated losing heroine from the start. I like her because she shits on Sasha at every chance she gets

-She learns about it when told directly to her face. As i said before, she is borderline retarded. She still can't say no to them directly and just tells them to wait till "she figures her feelings out". I think she says some sort of a "no" to Roland and she doesn't really consider lesbian saint seriously but that doesn't stop the bitch from acting obnoxious as hell which is something she doesn't correct or stop either.

well this just means I can drop the title then.
One day an author will start a story like this and actually know how to write it.

I guess we'll see if I live to witness that day.

 

[Rafalga]

well this just means I can drop the title then.
One day an author will start a story like this and actually know how to write it.

I guess we'll see if I live to witness that day.

Funny thing is, this story (the webnovel) has JP reader's comments below it for each chapter and they shit on this direction as well. Which is something they RARELY do (openly anyway). Literally nobody likes her and everyone thinks their reconciliation feels forced (it is)

 

[NotTako001]

Spoiler

-She only ever comes to understand that she really didn't need to kick him out when they open the clan house and start recruiting newbies. When she sees these guys getting trained, she thinks that was what she should have done with Hyce as well. But that's pretty much it. She was shitting on him during the day and was crying herself to sleep during the night because of what she did when they were still in the party but she never apologizes for that or talks about it too.
She also sort of realizes how useless she is without the entire party/clan wiping her ass when she and Hyce conquer a dungeon alone together. She is competently useless outside of fighting just like a classic shounen meathead battle manga protagonist unlike Hyce who is literally jack of all trades while being an S tier fighter even without his guns. He just needed training but she didn't give him the time or resources because she was a raging bitch at the time.

-She doesn't. Not in a way the Hyce from the begining of the story wanted. She more or less forced back in to his life by the author and he just gives up and forgives her after some gaslighting by the guild master since nobody around him are actually on his side expect Precia who is treated as the designated losing heroine from the start. I like her because she shits on Sasha at every chance she gets

-She learns about it when told directly to her face. As i said before, she is borderline retarded. She still can't say no to them directly and just tells them to wait till "she figures her feelings out". I think she says some sort of a "no" to Roland and she doesn't really consider lesbian saint seriously but that doesn't stop the bitch from acting obnoxious as hell which is something she doesn't correct or stop either.

Spoiler

Sasha need to be bitch at by Precia some more, and author need to do some work on her character cuz right now she is painfully annoying to watch, lowkey feels like those NTR dude who think everything goes their way, except Sasha got the help of the author

 

[Isssra]

Thanks for the chapter.

 

[Rafalga]

well this just means I can drop the title then.
One day an author will start a story like this and actually know how to write it.

I guess we'll see if I live to witness that day.

My favorite comment

Spoiler

From the latest "confession" chapter. Pronouns are reversed because MTL can't tell

 

[UdenEmpati]

My favorite comment

Spoiler

From the latest "confession" chapter

god that's awful.

I suddenly get why people write fanfiction.

I mean, I knew why before, but now I get it.

the most meta-contextual "I can fix him (by writing it myself)" ever.

 

[avefenixflames]

I don't know why other characters try to make him look like he is in the wrong and that he should be the one to try and fix things, like if he wasn't the actual victim... it's quite very justifiable if he doesn't want to fix things after she didn't even try for years. He was the one wronged and maimed for life but he is the one that needs to fix things? yeah sure author, that's not how that works...

 

[Shendelred]

1st para, he will back down even though later he gets forced by sasha, has his dungeon stolen by her, his plans messed up by her, and everyone still supports her, never acknowledging she did anything wrong, everything just goes right for her, and she also never understands she messed up
2nd para, from what i've read, no true heart to heart, when they talk mc silently forgives her, as till this point he had already started doing stuff for her without getting any recognition himself, and the bitch even then has the audacity to tell him, that her decision to banish him was right.


If i made any mistake which could get my hopes up to read the novel or this again, someone please correct me. This seems good but the only gripe I have with this is how much easy Sasha has everything and never faces any consequences for what she has done. Though this likely up till 250-300 chapters, and the WN is at 400+ so idk what happens then or if it gets better, spoilers appreciated.

Spoiler

-She only ever comes to understand that she really didn't need to kick him out when they open the clan house and start recruiting newbies. When she sees these guys getting trained, she thinks that was what she should have done with Hyce as well. But that's pretty much it. She was shitting on him during the day and was crying herself to sleep during the night because of what she did when they were still in the party but she never apologizes for that or talks about it too.
She also sort of realizes how useless she is without the entire party/clan wiping her ass when she and Hyce conquer a dungeon alone together. She is competently useless outside of fighting just like a classic shounen meathead battle manga protagonist unlike Hyce who is literally jack of all trades while being an S tier fighter even without his guns. He just needed training but she didn't give him the time or resources because she was a raging bitch at the time.

-She doesn't. Not in a way the Hyce from the begining of the story wanted. She more or less forced back in to his life by the author and he just gives up and forgives her after some gaslighting by the guild master since nobody around him are actually on his side expect Precia who is treated as the designated losing heroine from the start. I like her because she shits on Sasha at every chance she gets

-She learns about it when told directly to her face. As i said before, she is borderline retarded. She still can't say no to them directly and just tells them to wait till "she figures her feelings out". I think she says some sort of a "no" to Roland and she doesn't really consider lesbian saint seriously but that doesn't stop the bitch from acting obnoxious as hell which is something she doesn't correct or stop either.

So it's more like the author simp for Sasha that he gave all the plot armor for her, while the MC, being mad at her at first, became softened later on, like a tsundere-type character.

 

[vannn]

With all these spoilers I feel like Sasha should hav been MC the the author will contort the story to shield her from any criticism in narrative.

I don't even dislike her character, more so I wish the author wasn't so in love with her.