Isekai Craft Gurashi ~Jiyuu Kimama na Seisan Shoku no Honobono Slow Life~ - Ch. 36

[JavelinJoe]

Yeah, there's also the fact that putting what is, in essence, a jet engine in a tunnel basically turns the tunnel into a gun barrel. Guns work by burning propellant to massively increase gas pressure behind a bullet, which easily overcomes the atmospheric pressure on the other side. So this would be similar, except instead of burning propellant, you're actually shifting the mass of air from one side to the other.

Also, just so everyone knows, this isn't something the mangaka is pulling out of their ass. This is a thing that actually exists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_railway

If only he knew about hydrolic or pneumatic breaks. The concept behind them is actually relatively simple enough to possibly even get lucky with a few tests. Especially if you are not trying to min/max cost and efficiency. He could simply over engineer it and make it work with brute force since once the technological concept is proven to work, he can just let the more suitable experts/craftsmen refine and optimize it.

The same could be done for the train as well if only he understood certain properties of electricity. Rail based propulsion would actually work here too, since the route probably wouldn't need to twist and turn a whole lot underground with the way he can build tunnels. One straight path means you could essentially just send it with a huge launch assist (like planes recieve on an aircraft carrier) and simply let friction over distance gradually slow it down until the breaks at the end take over and finish the job. Or chain it with several boost stations along the way if the magic/force is too much to handle to make it all the way in one go.

But alas, he just isn't that kind of guy. Group effort will have to do for now it seems.

 

[Amariithynar]

A steam engine would be nice... if they aren't building it under ground... (pretty sure thats what they were planning anyways), if thats the case if they don't do the ventalation very carefully people would just choke from no oxygen

Considering the size of the tunnel, they wouldn't asphyxiate, especially since it's intended to be sealed carriages. Especially since they can use fire blocks with a boiler, instead of relying solely on direct mechanical force from wind (since pushing on air is actually one of the worse ways to impart momentum).

 

[TheProtectorOfPureHeartedGirls]

Page 30: Too heavy, bro...
Condolence, is what I must say though.

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[Claith]

Considering the size of the tunnel, they wouldn't asphyxiate, especially since it's intended to be sealed carriages. Especially since they can use fire blocks with a boiler, instead of relying solely on direct mechanical force from wind (since pushing on air is actually one of the worse ways to impart momentum).

While I'm happy that the conversation moved to why a steam engine or combustion engine wouldn't work, I don't think this is correct. The tunnel is 600 km long, and without proper ventilation gases would build up and become toxic over many trips.

It'd make more sense to use the hot water magic he set up for the bath to boil. Would get really moldy in the tunnel with all the water vapor though. Slime infestation likely.

I don't think that using wind is inherently bad. Might work out if the tunnel on the far side of the train was widened and the extra wind was dispersed from a wider outlet (spread the flow around instead of a jet), instead of up and down. Add a set of chimneys to vent the wind at the stations, and the stairs likely wouldn't be so windy. The lack of conservation of mass or forces in this series will drive me nuts one day.

If he was mechanically skilled, something that always turns, like a flywheel enchanted to move (don't remember if those floating sword things on his tower moved or not) attached to a clutch to the axles would be the most direct way. He'd have to figure out brakes first through, or a fluid "clutch" like a torque converter that automatics use if they wanted to engage while moving. When not moving, a gear based system could work, but they have to be careful not to "blow the transmission".

 

[Amariithynar]

While I'm happy that the conversation moved to why a steam engine or combustion engine wouldn't work, I don't think this is correct. The tunnel is 600 km long, and without proper ventilation gases would build up and become toxic over many trips.

It'd make more sense to use the hot water magic he set up for the bath to boil. Would get really moldy in the tunnel with all the water vapor though. Slime infestation likely.

Fire blocks dumping heat into a sealed steam vessel = no gases to ventilate. I already addressed this. You don't need to burn fuel to get the boiler operational.

I don't think that using wind is inherently bad. Might work out if the tunnel on the far side of the train was widened and the extra wind was dispersed from a wider outlet (spread the flow around instead of a jet), instead of up and down. Add a set of chimneys to vent the wind at the stations, and the stairs likely wouldn't be so windy.

The problem with wind and why it is inherently bad in the configuration they're doing is because it is wind pushing against air, which is incredibly poor for energy output to efficiency; cases where air pressure is useful is where you have a sudden explosion of pressure in a very small area that then propels a sealed-to-the-walls projectile, as with air rifles, pneumatic nail guns, and similar pneumatic tools.

The lack of conservation of mass or forces in this series will drive me nuts one day.

It's magic that generates things, that then operate as per basic laws of physics et al. Isn't it fun?

If he was mechanically skilled, something that always turns, like a flywheel enchanted to move (don't remember if those floating sword things on his tower moved or not) attached to a clutch to the axles would be the most direct way. He'd have to figure out brakes first through, or a fluid "clutch" like a torque converter that automatics use if they wanted to engage while moving. When not moving, a gear based system could work, but they have to be careful not to "blow the transmission".

Unironically, using wind to power a turbine that spun a flywheel up would be an actually great way to do it, even with a smaller amount of energy output. By storing mechanical energy in a flywheel, they can then dump it into the wheel system via gearing through a clutch and transmission system, or disconnect it via same, so as to not waste any excess energy still in the flywheel (to reduce charge time for the return trip).

 

[Sylfaen]

I feel dumb but I don't understand the explanation, what was the fix he came up with?

 

[TotalPleb]

This is hands down one of the best translations I've ever read. Incredible grasp over both English and the Japanese it's translated from, all the jokes are landing very well and even the technobabble is legible!

Major kudos, this improves the reading quality to an insane degree.

 

[asdf115]

Anyone know if the translator is still around? Really like their work on this series and holding out hope for a TL of the recent chapters.

 

[Pokari]

Explode. I think you mean explode, sir.

(It is true that going straight from horse-drawn carriages to a fully operational cross-country subway, likely literally overnight, would be absolute economic chaos, though. The old man's not wrong in that respect. Especially with how fast MC can probably lay additional ones down.)

Anyone know if the translator is still around? Really like their work on this series and holding out hope for a TL of the recent chapters.

Given the TL note at the end of this chapter (and some others on other chapters describing inconsistent scheduling of raws), and also considering that the other group TL-ing this doesn't seem to have gotten ahold of part C of the next chapter yet (publisher breaks them into thirds, it's just this TL waits until a full chapter is released which honestly is a mercy)...

I think it's quite possible they don't even have another full chapter to translate yet. (Like, there seems to be plenty of reason, and not for the first time either, that they might reasonably choose to quit. And I might wish them as much happiness as they've brought me, whatever they might choose to do! But at the very least, the time passed since the last update doesn't seem to be a compelling reason to worry, by itself.)

 

[asdf115]

My understanding was that this series was always posted in parts and the raws are currently up to Chapter 39.1 so couple have chapters have come out since. Poking around though, it looks like there's an official EN translation as of August so maybe that's related? Either way, whether there's a pause or the series is dropped, I also hope the best for the TL team and thank them for the work so far!

 

[VooXoo]

Seems like TL stopped, possibly for it having a official NG TL now.
Can't see at what chapter the official TL is as the site is american and racist towards Europe (joke, is just dumbasses that hate money).

Spoiler

I checked the raws and the maid is very down with morale, she doesn't knows or understand why she got removed from her job of years, I too still don't completely understand it.
The prince makes a small celebration party and uses it to make MC realize Karon is a girl.
The bastard in the last chapter betrayes the noble, that he is a subordinate of, to bring ifnormation about the train to another noble in a city that seems to be pretty rich thanks to it being connected to the sea, likely a merchant hub for trade.
The noble in that place is a massive elitist, speaking with a lower noble was beneath him and so a subordinate was used ot , making the corrupt bastard very offended by their attitude, but he wants Bellini to go down more and still talks, they seem to be very surprised of the info about the train, the idiot believes they will obstruct it as it would cause problems to the economy, If the MTL was correct his other reason to stop it is because he doesn't want normal civilians to move easily between cities, he was furious at the though of Bellini opening streets for peasants and building infrastructures to help.
MC can't touch the train so he starts to dig the underground path, he is helped from other crafters that use their abilty and expertise to reinforce the tunnel wall and other stuff when the MC just digs ahead, but he can't go too fast.
Maid was sent to escort MC together with cat girl, is for safety from possible attacks, it shoudl be for monsters in the tunnels as the noble shouldn't know about the traitor.
Speaking of it the elitist noble didn't made any negative comment about the train but disliked the traitor that tried to damage his boss for really no reason.
The train is getting worked from the other people MC contacted in this chapter, the boss blasted away the front, thinking it had some use but MC put it there simply because that is how a train looks to him, is only extra weight, so they are working on cutting the extra parts, the final isekai train will look very different.
There are only 2 full raw chapters ahead and another still incomplete.

 

[Nemo2342]

Seems like TL stopped, possibly for it having a official NG TL now.
Can't see at what chapter the official TL is as the site is american and racist towards Europe (joke, is just dumbasses that hate money).

Official TL is up to Volume 4 / Chapter 15.

UTOON 🤢 has 37.1-37.3 and 38.1-38.2 released with 38.3 and 39.1 paywalled 🤮

Raws are up to 39.2

Personally I'd rather wait for this group to updated if they're still working on the series.

 

[slipslide]

Official TL is up to Volume 4 / Chapter 15.

UTOON 🤢 has 37.1-37.3 and 38.1-38.2 released with 38.3 and 39.1 paywalled 🤮

Raws are up to 39.2

Personally I'd rather wait for this group to updated if they're still working on the series.

As I've said before, there is an app from the official publisher that's even farther ahead - today, chapter 40.3 dropped.

 

[Nemo2342]

As I've said before, there is an app from the official publisher that's even farther ahead - today, chapter 40.3 dropped.

The linked site for Japanese raws dropped 40.1 today (November 3rd); I can't find anyone putting this out in enlgish other than Utoon though.

 

[Naeko]

Conniving greed and political maneuvering is ALWAYS the greatest evil in stories like these. Thank you so much for the chapter.

If the nobles or royals found out the MC was thinking of moving to another country or kingdom, they would create some laws that are impossible not to violate. Then use the violations to imprison him and then slap a magic slave collar on him. It's not like nobles haven't been twisting laws around. For example, King Philip of Spain accused, convicted, and then sentenced to death a number of people that were owed a lot of money. That was how he got rid of debt by making sure they couldn't collect on it.

 

[darkliondp]

Spoiler

I checked the raws and the maid is very down with morale, she doesn't knows or understand why she got removed from her job of years, I too still don't completely understand it.

I believe I am no speedreader and I still dunno why she got demoted, but everything indicates she is a really shitty individual and even her brother and her lord are talking shit about her. What's more annoying is that this seems to be a super big plot point and all it does is distract me from what really matters because I haven't figured out her purpose as a character. She even had this crashout against Miyabi at the party, she ruins the mood of the whole manga in general imo. What's funnier is that Miyabi doesn't even give a shit about her, she's probably the worst written jealous character I've read in a long time.

 

[VooXoo]

I believe I am no speedreader and I still dunno why she got demoted, but everything indicates she is a really shitty individual and even her brother and her lord are talking shit about her. What's more annoying is that this seems to be a super big plot point and all it does is distract me from what really matters because I haven't figured out her purpose as a character. She even had this crashout against Miyabi at the party, she ruins the mood of the whole manga in general imo. What's funnier is that Miyabi doesn't even give a shit about her, she's probably the worst written jealous character I've read in a long time.

From my opinion she is a elitist that really cares about her job as maid of the daughter of the house.
But when I say elitist I mean she recognizes the difference in ranks, but not flaunts it and berate commoners for their low status, she dislikes their being all buddy-buddy but that is normal seeing her formation and their difference ranks.
She was brought down from her position and no explanation was given, we can guess that is because they want her to be less isolated, to start talking with the other maids, to get friends, to share problems, but she is very capable so asking others for something doesn't come naturally, I understand the decision, and even how she doesn't, no one told her, they simply want her to "get it".
I'm guessing though, I don't know for sure, I tried to check the novel but as it had a different plot I didn't continue it.

 

[Haxens]

Me personally, after it's finished, ban that noble and his family from using it. The fact of the matter is that you followed the contract and he tried to fuck yall over. Ban him