Kininatteru Hito ga Otoko ja Nakatta - Vol. 4 Ch. 152.1 - Volume 4 Extras (Digital Edition)

[benderboyboy]

A break is fine. In fact, more mangaka and more people in Japan in general should take more breaks more often. I'm absolutely in favour of that

They didn't say they're taking a break, though. It was "more work on the extras" week after week, to the point of silliness. So I'm making fun of that

Nope. You were just a prick.

 

[Mafeb]

Even the car plate knows...

 

[Gothic_Catalyst]

Thank you for the chapter.

 

[UdenEmpati]

A break is fine. In fact, more mangaka and more people in Japan in general should take more breaks more often. I'm absolutely in favour of that

They didn't say they're taking a break, though. It was "more work on the extras" week after week, to the point of silliness. So I'm making fun of that

I take it you've been involved in lots of book making and the production process therein, then?

Since you clearly indicate you know how long it should haven taken these to be released, much less translated, and then published here for you to consume for free.

Not counting everything else that went into completing, compiling, editing, reviewing, authorizing, and physically producing the volumes that these are a part of.

 

[Kirin-kun]

Volume 4 ends at the currently available "normal" chapter (152). Next arc is about to start, probably.

There's 4 (physical) exclusive 2026 moonlight magazines out there, for each Japanese retailer: Melonbooks, Gamers, Animate and Tsutoya. This is what took time to Sumiko to draw, in addition to this bonus.

When and if I get my hands on them, I'll surely translate them.

 

[TheRealDrMcCoy]

Nope. You were just a prick.

Your face is a prick.

 

[TheRealDrMcCoy]

I take it you've been involved in lots of book making and the production process therein, then?

I actually am. I'm well aware how long writing a book takes, how writing is rewriting, how editing is rewriting again, how copy-editing is rewriting again again

I have actually written a full book (well, a novella), talked to agents... and in the end failed to place the book at a publisher. Which, yes, means I was not successful while this manga was. I admit that. But it also gave me some insights

I also have aquaintances who were successful where I was not, whose process I got to see

Since you clearly indicate you know how long it should haven taken these to be released, much less translated, and then published here for you to consume for free.

I do have some idea, yes. Granted, not manga and yeah, granted, translations weren't involved. But I also have data points to compare with the otherwise weekly 4 page comic

I take it the tone of my original post didn't come through, which is common in textual communication. I was not complaining, I was not angry. I did not write with malice. It was supposed to be a light commentary on the difference between the otherwise weekly 4 page comic and the extras that seemingly took a considerable longer time

You coming at me like that, even after my second post, without knowing a single thing about me is...rich. You might want to train your reading comprehension a bit more, just like my writing is provably somewhat lacking (see above)

 

[masterbladero]

A nice look behind the Curtains of their domestic life.

 

[AlmondMagnum]

They pay rent. To Joe? Is he their landlord, or did they just take over the lease? If it's the former, I hope he gives back the money when they get married or something.

 

[albirew]

so gay they cannot think straight

 

[Meowzilla]

Based on where the entrance is, their apartment seems to have no bedroom, it’s just a one room (with bathroom). The sofa looks like it can convert into a bed, so I guess they sleep together on that?

 

[benderboyboy]

I actually am. I'm well aware how long writing a book takes, how writing is rewriting, how editing is rewriting again, how copy-editing is rewriting again again

I have actually written a full book (well, a novella), talked to agents... and in the end failed to place the book at a publisher. Which, yes, means I was not successful while this manga was. I admit that. But it also gave me some insights

I also have aquaintances who were successful where I was not, whose process I got to see



I do have some idea, yes. Granted, not manga and yeah, granted, translations weren't involved. But I also have data points to compare with the otherwise weekly 4 page comic

I take it the tone of my original post didn't come through, which is common in textual communication. I was not complaining, I was not angry. I did not write with malice. It was supposed to be a light commentary on the difference between the otherwise weekly 4 page comic and the extras that seemingly took a considerable longer time

You coming at me like that, even after my second post, without knowing a single thing about me is...rich. You might want to train your reading comprehension a bit more, just like my writing is provably somewhat lacking (see above)

Alright then, from your senpai, I'm going to assume you're just autistic and bad at social cues (and comedy, apparently) and give you some knowledge of the industry, because your current outlook and understanding is woefully inadequate, especially if you're looking to get published.

Writing for volume collections and writing serials are different processes, and can take different lengths, especially if you are the only creator. When you think of weekly releases, you need to think of what is being released and how much work a person can do.
Take Shonen Jump releases, for example. They do weekly releases of around 20 pages per chapters. But each manga have teams of 3-6 people worth working on it as assistants. The main artist is usually just the penciller, and the author is doing the outline or writing, while the assistants work on inking. That means for a 20 page per week release, you're looking at 20 pages of:
-Writer
-Penciller
-Ink
-Letterer
spread across 3-6 people.

Agu-sensei is working on 4 pages a week. However, they do not have assistants as far as I know. Meaning in return for less pages, they need less hands. Approximately 3-6x less hands.

For the volume release, we have 6 new pages that we see, as well as 9 promo art, and 5 cover variants. That's 20 new pages, for different fields, that requires different processes and reviews. So now the workload is 20 pages with added:
-Cover
-Setter
-Writer
-Penciller
-Ink
-Colour
-Letterer
-Promo art

Writing a serial is about consistency, while book publication is about build-up. They do not have the same workflow. A lot of writers who do one-shots, burn out when they get serialized, and serial writers takes a lot of break on book releases, because of the change of workflow.

Basically, the reason your "joke" failed, is because you were wrong.

Source: Me, published author, editor for a lit. magazine, a scanlator, in the industry for 20 years and old as fuck.

 

[TheRealDrMcCoy]

I'm going to assume you're just autistic

So, is that meant as an insult or a violation of the Goldwater rule? Either way, good job being an awful person.

9 promo art, and 5 cover variants

Lookie here, that's new information. All that faff of yours, unnecessary. But you could have lead with that, and made an actual point.

 

[benderboyboy]

So, is that meant as an insult or a violation of the Goldwater rule? Either way, good job being an awful person.

I don't use autism as an insult. That was me being straightforward, because that's the most respectable way to treat people with autism. The insult is me saying you're bad at comedy, which was also straightforward.

And if you think sharing industry experience is "faff", and you just want the soundbite, that's a you problem. A skill issue, as the kids say.

Incurious; Lack of reading comprehension; Negative to editorial feedback; Bad at comedy. That'd be my editorial note if your drafts came across my desk.

(Also, fun fact, Goldwater rule doesn't apply, because I'm not an American, psychiatrist, or both. sad trombone)