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If they both turn into sadists to appeal to the others machoistic side, we might just reach levels of peak never seen before.
Ueno-kun wa Kaihatsuzumi
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Huge miss opportunity if the author never entertains the idea.
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bottoming so hard you top for your partner's pleasure
would be cool, dont see service top stuff implemented much in fiction
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knew it was over as soon as i saw this, ueno needs the stink
jokes aside, pretty sad even if was expected, looking forward to how they try to overcome this together
Welp next Chapter is 74, which if I remember right was said to be a big one. Speculations are in, will one of them flip a switch and end up fucking the brains out of the other, will it be a long melancholy reflection that neither can have a meaningful sex life, will Moka run to the shower to give Chisaki a call to come join them and show her how she get's Ueno off? (Prolly not the last one) Honestly was real surprised she invited Ueno to a love hotel to try vanilla sex, atleast at first. I am wondering if she has something up her sleeve.
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Honestly i think the way it goes the best svenario for me would be like a nice emotional redemption arc between Ueno and Chisaki, so the dynamic stays in the sub/dom dimension. Idk id like this manga to maybe pivot into Ueno exploring how to get rid of the shame off being a sub, hell maybe even geow into one of those learn about bdsm mangas lol. Second best option wpuld be Tsubame sinc he actually did have some emotional work done with her and they seem to click on the more playful side. It would be a shame tha tin the end the conclusion is well we can just ignore and work through the past to have vanilla sex woth Moka. Like even that has a more fun route of having a platonic sub/sub relationship thats open to satisfy them. Maybe even change with time as the go from sub partners to friends or Chisaki domming them both. But just going vanila after a couple of emotional chapter feels kinda like deflating a balloon.
Honestly i think the way it goes the best svenario for me would be like a nice emotional redemption arc between Ueno and Chisaki, so the dynamic stays in the sub/dom dimension. Idk id like this manga to maybe pivot into Ueno exploring how to get rid of the shame off being a sub, hell maybe even geow into one of those learn about bdsm mangas lol. Second best option wpuld be Tsubame sinc he actually did have some emotional work done with her and they seem to click on the more playful side. It would be a shame tha tin the end the conclusion is well we can just ignore and work through the past to have vanilla sex woth Moka. Like even that has a more fun route of having a platonic sub/sub relationship thats open to satisfy them. Maybe even change with time as the go from sub partners to friends or Chisaki domming them both. But just going vanila after a couple of emotional chapter feels kinda like deflating a balloon.
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Chapter 74 is out and free to read. Will Ueno lose his virginity this chapter and solve everything?! Read the chapter and summary to find out.
The chapter starts off with Ueno thinking about what excuses he could say to Moka to help ease the situation when Moka brought her reasoning: she thinks she is tainted. If Moka was Ueno's first, maybe the situation between them might have been different. Ueno disagreed, saying that Moka only acted like a masochist when she was dating while Ueno wasn't seeing anyone when he became one. Ueno followed by saying that he was one he is tainted and apologized to Moka. Both of them continue to apologize to each other before going quiet.
Ueno again continue to think about what words he could say to Moka to ease the situation, but he couldn't think of anything to provide Moka some warm comfort. That's when Hina, Moka's older sister, called asking Moka what she's doing for dinner. Moka asked Ueno if planning to eat dinner before heading home, which Ueno replying that he will follow whatever Moka is planning to do. Hina started probing on why Ueno is next to Moka (skipping class? On a date? lol) before thanking Ueno for supporting her younger sister. Hina asked Moka to hand the phone to Ueno so she can lecture him on why he was slacking on his gym sessions(lol). Moka reluctantly complied as she handed Ueno her phone. Hina tells Ueno to take care of Moka because she trusts him. Ueno agrees before handing the phone back to Moka. Moka then left the room to take a shower.
While in the shower, Moka thought about the words of her sister of hoping her next relationship will be better. Meanwhile, Ueno thought about what Hina said on both of them seem to motivate each other while at the gym. That is when Ueno's inner self appeared before him, once again doubting Ueno's resolve. Annoyed, Ueno asked his inner self why he keeps appearing. The inner self explained that both Ueno and Moka were programmed by other people. Their programming has surpassed their ability to have a romantic connection.
But Ueno realized that if he doesn't do anything here and now then he won't ever be able to fix his physical chemistry issue with situation with Moka. Ueno fears that he will be stuck in a dead bedroom situation with Moka for the foreseeable future, feeling tormented about his kinks while Moka goes out and cheats on him with someone's else.
Ueno gets frustrated while he thinks what Moka's ex, Riku said about he is only one who knows the true Moka. Ueno then realized Moka probably feel the same way as him: that she hates the idea of him getting aroused by someone else. That's when Ueno remembered Hina's advice of finding someone with the same goal as him and that he and Moka are one of the same.
Ueno rushed to the shower when he spotted Moka crying. Ueno thought that between the two of them, there is only the " developed" past (something along those lines). That is when Ueno grabbed Moka by her hand and told Moka that...
Ueno again continue to think about what words he could say to Moka to ease the situation, but he couldn't think of anything to provide Moka some warm comfort. That's when Hina, Moka's older sister, called asking Moka what she's doing for dinner. Moka asked Ueno if planning to eat dinner before heading home, which Ueno replying that he will follow whatever Moka is planning to do. Hina started probing on why Ueno is next to Moka (skipping class? On a date? lol) before thanking Ueno for supporting her younger sister. Hina asked Moka to hand the phone to Ueno so she can lecture him on why he was slacking on his gym sessions(lol). Moka reluctantly complied as she handed Ueno her phone. Hina tells Ueno to take care of Moka because she trusts him. Ueno agrees before handing the phone back to Moka. Moka then left the room to take a shower.
While in the shower, Moka thought about the words of her sister of hoping her next relationship will be better. Meanwhile, Ueno thought about what Hina said on both of them seem to motivate each other while at the gym. That is when Ueno's inner self appeared before him, once again doubting Ueno's resolve. Annoyed, Ueno asked his inner self why he keeps appearing. The inner self explained that both Ueno and Moka were programmed by other people. Their programming has surpassed their ability to have a romantic connection.
But Ueno realized that if he doesn't do anything here and now then he won't ever be able to fix his physical chemistry issue with situation with Moka. Ueno fears that he will be stuck in a dead bedroom situation with Moka for the foreseeable future, feeling tormented about his kinks while Moka goes out and cheats on him with someone's else.
Ueno gets frustrated while he thinks what Moka's ex, Riku said about he is only one who knows the true Moka. Ueno then realized Moka probably feel the same way as him: that she hates the idea of him getting aroused by someone else. That's when Ueno remembered Hina's advice of finding someone with the same goal as him and that he and Moka are one of the same.
Ueno rushed to the shower when he spotted Moka crying. Ueno thought that between the two of them, there is only the " developed" past (something along those lines). That is when Ueno grabbed Moka by her hand and told Moka that...
He will "develop" her by finding an unknown fetish that only Ueno will know about.
Wow, so that's the solution to break their programming, huh? Finding a new fetish to override the old masochist programming? Never thought about that solution, huh. I wonder what new fetish they will wind up settling in the end...?
While Ueno didn't lose his virginity in this chapter, I'm glad he finally remembered Hina's advice of finding a partner of work through a problem together. I hope everything works out in the end...
( Just no waterworks fetish, please Moka. Ueno, you can do better than that, lol).
While Ueno didn't lose his virginity in this chapter, I'm glad he finally remembered Hina's advice of finding a partner of work through a problem together. I hope everything works out in the end...
( Just no waterworks fetish, please Moka. Ueno, you can do better than that, lol).
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Well this seems to maybe push the idea of Moka possibly becoming a top, granted this is Ueno that is taking initiative so maybe not? With the idea of discovering a new fetish for maybe both of them, the switch idea could also work or maybe something away from that kind of thinking all together.
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Seeing Chisaki being both Ueno's and Moka's dom is a crazy ending, lol(poor Kanako). I do wish Ueno won't disregard being a masochist in the end of the story once he breaks his programming. There are healthier partners out there for Ueno for him to enjoy that kink.
I'm curious on how Moka will respond to this. If she says something along the lines of " Me, too, Ueno. I will find an unknown fetish for you that only I know about.". Then the development could be even more crazy.
Chapter 74 is out and free to read. Will Ueno lose his virginity this chapter and solve everything?! Read the chapter and summary to find out.
The chapter starts off with Ueno thinking about what excuses he could say to Moka to help ease the situation when Moka brought her reasoning: she thinks she is tainted. If Moka was Ueno's first, maybe the situation between them might have been different. Ueno disagreed, saying that Moka only acted like a masochist when she was dating while Ueno wasn't seeing anyone when he became one. Ueno followed by saying that he was one he is tainted and apologized to Moka. Both of them continue to apologize to each other before going quiet.
Ueno again continue to think about what words he could say to Moka to ease the situation, but he couldn't think of anything to provide Moka some warm comfort. That's when Hina, Moka's older sister, called asking Moka what she's doing for dinner. Moka asked Ueno if planning to eat dinner before heading home, which Ueno replying that he will follow whatever Moka is planning to do. Hina started probing on why Ueno is next to Moka (skipping class? On a date? lol) before thanking Ueno for supporting her younger sister. Hina asked Moka to hand the phone to Ueno so she can lecture him on why he was slacking on his gym sessions(lol). Moka reluctantly complied as she handed Ueno her phone. Hina tells Ueno to take care of Moka because she trusts him. Ueno agrees before handing the phone back to Moka. Moka then left the room to take a shower.
While in the shower, Moka thought about the words of her sister of hoping her next relationship will be better. Meanwhile, Ueno thought about what Hina said on both of them seem to motivate each other while at the gym. That is when Ueno's inner self appeared before him, once again doubting Ueno's resolve. Annoyed, Ueno asked his inner self why he keeps appearing. The inner self explained that both Ueno and Moka were programmed by other people. Their programming has surpassed their ability to have a romantic connection.
But Ueno realized that if he doesn't do anything here and now then he won't ever be able to fix his physical chemistry issue with situation with Moka. Ueno fears that he will be stuck in a dead bedroom situation with Moka for the foreseeable future, feeling tormented about his kinks while Moka goes out and cheats on him with someone's else.
Ueno gets frustrated while he thinks what Moka's ex, Riku said about he is only one who knows the true Moka. Ueno then realized Moka probably feel the same way as him: that she hates the idea of him getting aroused by someone else. That's when Ueno remembered Hina's advice of finding someone with the same goal as him and that he and Moka are one of the same.
Ueno rushed to the shower when he spotted Moka crying. Ueno thought that between the two of them, there is only the " developed" past (something along those lines). That is when Ueno grabbed Moka by her hand and told Moka that...
He will "develop" her by finding an unknown fetish that only Ueno will know about.
Wow, so that's the solution to break their programming, huh? Finding a new fetish to override the old masochist programming? Never thought about that solution, huh. I wonder what new fetish they will wind up settling in the end...?
While Ueno didn't lose his virginity in this chapter, I'm glad he finally remembered Hina's advice of finding a partner of work through a problem together. I hope everything works out in the end...
( Just no waterworks fetish, please Moka. Ueno, you can do better than that, lol).
Not the development I was expecting but I feel this does decrease the chances of a breakup, I've said it before but the last few chapters have kept hopeful vibes and now this chapter is as well with Ueno not giving up.
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They get to have sex! It's not the best because Ueno came early, but at least they lost their virginity to each other. (Tsubromis we lost huhu.) It's not the end of the world if Ueno is too fast and can't get it up, they could do other stuff like oral... they at least should have the decency to do something afterward like post-coital snuggling.
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Chapter 75 is out and free to read. Read the story and summary to understand what's going on.
The chapter begins with I think Moka mentioning having a lotion bottle just in case she needs to use it for lubrication and asking Ueno how will they approach experimenting with each other. Ueno wanted to talk about their sexual preferences and kinks. Moka reminded Ueno that they felt no spark when they kissed and how their (lack) of sexual compatibility is something that they can't help themselves. Ueno said that he doesn't think their compatibility is bad yet because his heart and head wasn't in the right place. Ueno wants to change himself in order to first get excited for Moka's body and then explore Moka's kinks.
Once that's settled, Ueno and Moka decided to do foreplay again. While touching Moka's breast (TIL she has a mole on her right nipple which Ueno didn't notice until now), Ueno remarked internally that he can't get an erection. While he regrets thinking about his sexual activities with the bully trio, he thinks that if he can't get an erection, his plan of exploring their kinks will fail.
Moka then told Ueno to lay down to give him blowjob and followed up by putting lotion on her vagina. Moka gave encouraging words to Ueno by telling him that she will do all the work and to relax. Seeing Moka's determination convinced Ueno that he wants to change for Moka's sake and surprisingly he managed to get an erection! Ueno quickly slipped on a condom and told Moka that he wants to try one more time. Ueno guided his penis into Moka's vagina and after seventy-five chapters, Ueno is NOT a virgin anymore! 🥳
( Ueno, I know you're not blind enough to have sex without your glasses, lol)
It looks like an incredible breakthrough to see Ueno thrust his hips into Moka...until Ueno revealed that he went soft.
Moka laughed for a bit at that moment but she's happy to see Ueno trying so hard and the progress that they made today.
Ueno doesn't share the same joy as his thoughts revealed that it was due to him thinking about the bully trio that he managed to have an erection. If Ueno doesn't think about them, he can't maintain his erection. Ueno wonders that if he needs to think about the bully trio everytime he has sex with Moka, which is a thought Ueno feels guilty about. There's a scene of Moka thinking about the time she kissed her ex Riku back at the Tennis Camp arc (probably implying that he thought about Riku to get aroused), she told Ueno that's enough for today.
The chapter ends with Ueno with affirming to himself that he needs to get rid of his hang up with his bullies. Otherwise, he can't have sex with Moka, he can't break his programming, and he won't be able to change who he is.
Once that's settled, Ueno and Moka decided to do foreplay again. While touching Moka's breast (TIL she has a mole on her right nipple which Ueno didn't notice until now), Ueno remarked internally that he can't get an erection. While he regrets thinking about his sexual activities with the bully trio, he thinks that if he can't get an erection, his plan of exploring their kinks will fail.
Moka then told Ueno to lay down to give him blowjob and followed up by putting lotion on her vagina. Moka gave encouraging words to Ueno by telling him that she will do all the work and to relax. Seeing Moka's determination convinced Ueno that he wants to change for Moka's sake and surprisingly he managed to get an erection! Ueno quickly slipped on a condom and told Moka that he wants to try one more time. Ueno guided his penis into Moka's vagina and after seventy-five chapters, Ueno is NOT a virgin anymore! 🥳
( Ueno, I know you're not blind enough to have sex without your glasses, lol)
It looks like an incredible breakthrough to see Ueno thrust his hips into Moka...until Ueno revealed that he went soft.
Moka laughed for a bit at that moment but she's happy to see Ueno trying so hard and the progress that they made today.
Ueno doesn't share the same joy as his thoughts revealed that it was due to him thinking about the bully trio that he managed to have an erection. If Ueno doesn't think about them, he can't maintain his erection. Ueno wonders that if he needs to think about the bully trio everytime he has sex with Moka, which is a thought Ueno feels guilty about. There's a scene of Moka thinking about the time she kissed her ex Riku back at the Tennis Camp arc (probably implying that he thought about Riku to get aroused), she told Ueno that's enough for today.
The chapter ends with Ueno with affirming to himself that he needs to get rid of his hang up with his bullies. Otherwise, he can't have sex with Moka, he can't break his programming, and he won't be able to change who he is.
One step forward, two steps back?
Or is one step forward and a half a step back?
First off, it's great to see Moka and Ueno try again in having sex and they are willing to experiment in order to have a healthy sex life. Seeing Ueno, after seventy-five chapters, avoiding multiple attempts of the bully trio trying to have sex with him, that he managed to lose his virginity.
Incredible, just incredible...is what I would say, until Ueno revealed that he had think about the bully trio in order to get and maintain an erection. Yeah...Ueno definitely needs that important talk with Chisaki ASAP. No way the solution of thinking anything but your girlfriend while having sex is going to work out in the long term.
With that said, Ueno and Moka did make some progress. It was premature to think they will solve that intimacy problem with just one trip to the love hotel. As long they both work hard in breaking their programming, we will see Ueno and Moka having a happy ending together.
Or is one step forward and a half a step back?
First off, it's great to see Moka and Ueno try again in having sex and they are willing to experiment in order to have a healthy sex life. Seeing Ueno, after seventy-five chapters, avoiding multiple attempts of the bully trio trying to have sex with him, that he managed to lose his virginity.
Incredible, just incredible...is what I would say, until Ueno revealed that he had think about the bully trio in order to get and maintain an erection. Yeah...Ueno definitely needs that important talk with Chisaki ASAP. No way the solution of thinking anything but your girlfriend while having sex is going to work out in the long term.
With that said, Ueno and Moka did make some progress. It was premature to think they will solve that intimacy problem with just one trip to the love hotel. As long they both work hard in breaking their programming, we will see Ueno and Moka having a happy ending together.
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Seeing his thoughts, Ueno's solution to have the ability to have sex with Moka and maintaining his erection is not going to work out long term.
With that said, at least we can celebrate the milestone of Ueno losing his virginity even though I do like the idea of Ueno losing his virginity to Tsubomi instead of Moka ( the virgin bully taking the virginity of the bullied virgin would've have crashed yanmaga website, guaranteed).
With that said, at least we can celebrate the milestone of Ueno losing his virginity even though I do like the idea of Ueno losing his virginity to Tsubomi instead of Moka ( the virgin bully taking the virginity of the bullied virgin would've have crashed yanmaga website, guaranteed).
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Volume 7 cover and release date revealed. Chisaki definitely looks like she's in a rock group. I'll keep an eye out if there's any bonus material for this volume.
Pretty solid progress from them both, if things play out right then Ueno and Chisaki can have an honest conversation and then move on, I just really hope Chisaki doesn't try throwing a wrench into the works.Chapter 75 is out and free to read. Read the story and summary to understand what's going on.
The chapter begins with I think Moka mentioning having a lotion bottle just in case she needs to use it for lubrication and asking Ueno how will they approach experimenting with each other. Ueno wanted to talk about their sexual preferences and kinks. Moka reminded Ueno that they felt no spark when they kissed and how their (lack) of sexual compatibility is something that they can't help themselves. Ueno said that he doesn't think their compatibility is bad yet because his heart and head wasn't in the right place. Ueno wants to change himself in order to first get excited for Moka's body and then explore Moka's kinks.
Once that's settled, Ueno and Moka decided to do foreplay again. While touching Moka's breast (TIL she has a mole on her right nipple which Ueno didn't notice until now), Ueno remarked internally that he can't get an erection. While he regrets thinking about his sexual activities with the bully trio, he thinks that if he can't get an erection, his plan of exploring their kinks will fail.
Moka then told Ueno to lay down to give him blowjob and followed up by putting lotion on her vagina. Moka gave encouraging words to Ueno by telling him that she will do all the work and to relax. Seeing Moka's determination convinced Ueno that he wants to change for Moka's sake and surprisingly he managed to get an erection! Ueno quickly slipped on a condom and told Moka that he wants to try one more time. Ueno guided his penis into Moka's vagina and after seventy-five chapters, Ueno is NOT a virgin anymore! 🥳
( Ueno, I know you're not blind enough to have sex without your glasses, lol)
It looks like an incredible breakthrough to see Ueno thrust his hips into Moka...until Ueno revealed that he went soft.
Moka laughed for a bit at that moment but she's happy to see Ueno trying so hard and the progress that they made today.
Ueno doesn't share the same joy as his thoughts revealed that it was due to him thinking about the bully trio that he managed to have an erection. If Ueno doesn't think about them, he can't maintain his erection. Ueno wonders that if he needs to think about the bully trio everytime he has sex with Moka, which is a thought Ueno feels guilty about. There's a scene of Moka thinking about the time she kissed her ex Riku back at the Tennis Camp arc (probably implying that he thought about Riku to get aroused), she told Ueno that's enough for today.
The chapter ends with Ueno with affirming to himself that he needs to get rid of his hang up with his bullies. Otherwise, he can't have sex with Moka, he can't break his programming, and he won't be able to change who he is.
One step forward, two steps back?
Or is one step forward and a half a step back?
First off, it's great to see Moka and Ueno try again in having sex and they are willing to experiment in order to have a healthy sex life. Seeing Ueno, after seventy-five chapters, avoiding multiple attempts of the bully trio trying to have sex with him, that he managed to lose his virginity.
Incredible, just incredible...is what I would say, until Ueno revealed that he had think about the bully trio in order to get and maintain an erection. Yeah...Ueno definitely needs that important talk with Chisaki ASAP. No way the solution of thinking anything but your girlfriend while having sex is going to work out in the long term.
With that said, Ueno and Moka did make some progress. It was premature to think they will solve that intimacy problem with just one trip to the love hotel. As long they both work hard in breaking their programming, we will see Ueno and Moka having a happy ending together.
