Isekai Mokushiroku Mynoghra: Hametsu no Bunmei de Hajimeru Sekai Seifuku - Ch. 32 - Truths and Falsehoods

[Ratentaisou]

The wait between chapters is genuinely killing me

 

[Kuroageha]

Ok, so

Spoiler: Whole arc spoilers

Takuto learns what specific version of the tabletop game the other player (let's call him DM) is playing, so he uses that against him. First of all, as avatar of the Nameless God, Takuto has the ability to shapeshift into and completely become any other begin, so he uses that to create a chain of paladin murders, and most importantly locks the DMs clairvoyance ability by morphing into the RPG fire guy and starting an Event Quest Chain (kinda like how the fire guy managed to kill Isla, by locking her in an Event).

At the climax of the arc, everyone is ready to fight Takuto, and at that point he introduces himself, and asks for the DM to do the same, while at the same time threatening him that if he does he'll kill him with an insta-death spell that only requires knowing the target's name. Since the DM refuses to introduce himself, Takuto asks the system for a game pause (imagine you're playing D&D and you ask for a pause to go to the bathroom or discuss some rules), arguing that the specific version of the game the DM is based on REQUIRES players to have good sportsmanship and introduce themselves at the beginning of a game session. Since the DM hasn't introduced himself, Takuto asked the system to pause the game until he does, so all the tabletop game mechanics are locked while Takuto can still use his 4X mechanics (and RPG ones when transforming into the RPG bosses).

Takuto summons his whole army and they begin beating the shit out of everyone, and after a lot of begging from Erakino the DM finally introduces himself, which continues the play session and allows him to use his DM powers to basically revive everyone from his side and kill everyone from Takuto's side (obviously Takuto was bluffing about his insta-death spell). However, at this point, Takuto once again calls towards the game system and starts a motion to dismiss the DM because of power abuse: it's true the DM is omnipotent in the game, but if he's making up bullshit like this guy did no one would like to play their campaigns, so Takuto calls for a vote to dismiss him based on this:

• Stole a unit from a PC (Atuo)
• Indiscriminate revivals
• Abuse of rolls (always successful clairvoyance and mind control)
• Took far too long to introduce himself
• Unfairly summoning monsters of very high level in lower level zones
• etc.

Since the DM can't vote (because he's the one being judged), and Takuto is the only other player present, he wins the vote to dismiss the DM and he loses all his powers, and all his actions get undone (the mind control, the dead paladins reviving, Takuto's army dying). This is pretty much the end of the match, but at this point Takuto gets a bit greedy and asks the system that since the DM position is currently vacant if he could take over, but the system rejects that and he suffers major feedback, forcing him to retreat before he can deal with the two Saints (Erakino died and the DM got dropped from the game).

Just finished this arc of the LN a couple of weeks ago so it's still fresh, but I might have missed some other important stuff. I would recommend reading this arc because I found the whole conclusion to be really, really well written, much better than anything up to this point.

Spoiler: Atou

Unfortunately the mind control is never fully removed and it'd a permanent status ailment, this causes a huge dynamic change between MC and Atou with MC losing trust in her and Atou starting to mutilate herself out of shame every time MC picks literally anyone over Atou because every time she gets tasked with something she starts puting the saints in the formula because she still sees them as allies

 

[syrop]

Waited six months to get a lackluster chapter. And the art isn't even that good, at least for this chapter. Reaching Hunter Hunter levels of manga laziness with the releases

 

[Scrabbleman]

It's a rather interesting take on mind control. Essentially, you're aware that you are mind controlled, including the conditions that it places, but are unable to fully fight it as your mind does not register it as a threat/foreign body, even though you know it's bad.

It's like having a disease that kills you but your immune system doesn't react against it. You might know the disease is bad, but your body doesn't seem to care.

 

[Key_news]

Thanks for the udate and see u next year.

 

[Cobaltzero]

It lives!

Jesus I wish the anime had been better. Oh well.

Oh, i like that they're actually touching on one of the fuckier aspects of Charm magic - you can be fully aware that you're Charmed, but as long as it holds you won't care.

But Charm has it limits, and trying to force Atou to act against Takuto is face-planting right into those limits.

I wonder if Atou's going to engage in malicious compliance by just talking about his prior playthroughs. I bet she could do it for weeks.

Charm and on a 4X unit.
not very many 4X characters in ANY game that can attack allies. Gotta love getting fucked by system mechanics.

 

[Amplify]

On the one hand I'm really enjoying this arc and would like to see it play out without spoilers, on the other hand IT'S BEEN SIX FUCKING YEARS, THE AUTHOR'S GOING AROUND TAKING SIX MONTH BREAKS BETWEEN ONE CHAPTER, THE FUCK YOU MEAN THIS IS THE LATEST CHAPTER? I'M GOING INSANE.

 

[Nemo2342]

What an awful rule zero

That's how TTRPGs work. The DM is the final arbiter, because no rule book can cover every situation.

And even in cases where there is a rule, it may not be fun or make sense for the kind of game the DM is running and they should be allowed to change it.

Rule -1 exists though because there's always going to be some DM who just wants people to voice act the story they wrote out for everyone, with no deviations allowed.

 

[notAKAI_]

Thank you so much for the chapter!!

 

[blablablub]

Bug mum

 

[Willie29]

Ok, so

Spoiler: Whole arc spoilers

Takuto learns what specific version of the tabletop game the other player (let's call him DM) is playing, so he uses that against him. First of all, as avatar of the Nameless God, Takuto has the ability to shapeshift into and completely become any other begin, so he uses that to create a chain of paladin murders, and most importantly locks the DMs clairvoyance ability by morphing into the RPG fire guy and starting an Event Quest Chain (kinda like how the fire guy managed to kill Isla, by locking her in an Event).

At the climax of the arc, everyone is ready to fight Takuto, and at that point he introduces himself, and asks for the DM to do the same, while at the same time threatening him that if he does he'll kill him with an insta-death spell that only requires knowing the target's name. Since the DM refuses to introduce himself, Takuto asks the system for a game pause (imagine you're playing D&D and you ask for a pause to go to the bathroom or discuss some rules), arguing that the specific version of the game the DM is based on REQUIRES players to have good sportsmanship and introduce themselves at the beginning of a game session. Since the DM hasn't introduced himself, Takuto asked the system to pause the game until he does, so all the tabletop game mechanics are locked while Takuto can still use his 4X mechanics (and RPG ones when transforming into the RPG bosses).

Takuto summons his whole army and they begin beating the shit out of everyone, and after a lot of begging from Erakino the DM finally introduces himself, which continues the play session and allows him to use his DM powers to basically revive everyone from his side and kill everyone from Takuto's side (obviously Takuto was bluffing about his insta-death spell). However, at this point, Takuto once again calls towards the game system and starts a motion to dismiss the DM because of power abuse: it's true the DM is omnipotent in the game, but if he's making up bullshit like this guy did no one would like to play their campaigns, so Takuto calls for a vote to dismiss him based on this:

• Stole a unit from a PC (Atuo)
• Indiscriminate revivals
• Abuse of rolls (always successful clairvoyance and mind control)
• Took far too long to introduce himself
• Unfairly summoning monsters of very high level in lower level zones
• etc.

Since the DM can't vote (because he's the one being judged), and Takuto is the only other player present, he wins the vote to dismiss the DM and he loses all his powers, and all his actions get undone (the mind control, the dead paladins reviving, Takuto's army dying). This is pretty much the end of the match, but at this point Takuto gets a bit greedy and asks the system that since the DM position is currently vacant if he could take over, but the system rejects that and he suffers major feedback, forcing him to retreat before he can deal with the two Saints (Erakino died and the DM got dropped from the game).

Just finished this arc of the LN a couple of weeks ago so it's still fresh, but I might have missed some other important stuff. I would recommend reading this arc because I found the whole conclusion to be really, really well written, much better than anything up to this point.

what happen to the DM after?

 

[tremor3258]

Thay's a nasty charm variant for what Atou's trapped in.

I think that the protags are aware multiple systems are in play gives a big relative example since they know to start looking for things early.

Mainly a cleanup chapter to get pieces moved in position though, which is fine except for the delay

 

[Bedlam123]

Ok, so

Spoiler: Whole arc spoilers

Takuto learns what specific version of the tabletop game the other player (let's call him DM) is playing, so he uses that against him. First of all, as avatar of the Nameless God, Takuto has the ability to shapeshift into and completely become any other begin, so he uses that to create a chain of paladin murders, and most importantly locks the DMs clairvoyance ability by morphing into the RPG fire guy and starting an Event Quest Chain (kinda like how the fire guy managed to kill Isla, by locking her in an Event).

At the climax of the arc, everyone is ready to fight Takuto, and at that point he introduces himself, and asks for the DM to do the same, while at the same time threatening him that if he does he'll kill him with an insta-death spell that only requires knowing the target's name. Since the DM refuses to introduce himself, Takuto asks the system for a game pause (imagine you're playing D&D and you ask for a pause to go to the bathroom or discuss some rules), arguing that the specific version of the game the DM is based on REQUIRES players to have good sportsmanship and introduce themselves at the beginning of a game session. Since the DM hasn't introduced himself, Takuto asked the system to pause the game until he does, so all the tabletop game mechanics are locked while Takuto can still use his 4X mechanics (and RPG ones when transforming into the RPG bosses).

Takuto summons his whole army and they begin beating the shit out of everyone, and after a lot of begging from Erakino the DM finally introduces himself, which continues the play session and allows him to use his DM powers to basically revive everyone from his side and kill everyone from Takuto's side (obviously Takuto was bluffing about his insta-death spell). However, at this point, Takuto once again calls towards the game system and starts a motion to dismiss the DM because of power abuse: it's true the DM is omnipotent in the game, but if he's making up bullshit like this guy did no one would like to play their campaigns, so Takuto calls for a vote to dismiss him based on this:

• Stole a unit from a PC (Atuo)
• Indiscriminate revivals
• Abuse of rolls (always successful clairvoyance and mind control)
• Took far too long to introduce himself
• Unfairly summoning monsters of very high level in lower level zones
• etc.

Since the DM can't vote (because he's the one being judged), and Takuto is the only other player present, he wins the vote to dismiss the DM and he loses all his powers, and all his actions get undone (the mind control, the dead paladins reviving, Takuto's army dying). This is pretty much the end of the match, but at this point Takuto gets a bit greedy and asks the system that since the DM position is currently vacant if he could take over, but the system rejects that and he suffers major feedback, forcing him to retreat before he can deal with the two Saints (Erakino died and the DM got dropped from the game).

Just finished this arc of the LN a couple of weeks ago so it's still fresh, but I might have missed some other important stuff. I would recommend reading this arc because I found the whole conclusion to be really, really well written, much better than anything up to this point.

Man rereading the plot hurts cause its so dumb

 

[Angelnickl]

Thanks for the TLs! I was hoping this would update soon.

 

[B_R_U_H]

This story is so fire, why does it have the worst release schedule of all time, the art is phenomenal but lowkey not even crazy enough to justify this snails pace lol

 

[StLL]

yay!

 

[Imryse]

this was much better before the addition of "other players", now it's kinda meh.

 

[Lolilith]

The plot is getting very uninteresting real fast.

 

[GadgetSteelmare]

It's back! Huzzah! Thanks for the TL, Cuddlebuns. Hopefully the raws come out a bit quicker now. I guess the artist just needed a break or something.

 

[Knighto]

Ok, so

Spoiler: Whole arc spoilers

Takuto learns what specific version of the tabletop game the other player (let's call him DM) is playing, so he uses that against him. First of all, as avatar of the Nameless God, Takuto has the ability to shapeshift into and completely become any other begin, so he uses that to create a chain of paladin murders, and most importantly locks the DMs clairvoyance ability by morphing into the RPG fire guy and starting an Event Quest Chain (kinda like how the fire guy managed to kill Isla, by locking her in an Event).

At the climax of the arc, everyone is ready to fight Takuto, and at that point he introduces himself, and asks for the DM to do the same, while at the same time threatening him that if he does he'll kill him with an insta-death spell that only requires knowing the target's name. Since the DM refuses to introduce himself, Takuto asks the system for a game pause (imagine you're playing D&D and you ask for a pause to go to the bathroom or discuss some rules), arguing that the specific version of the game the DM is based on REQUIRES players to have good sportsmanship and introduce themselves at the beginning of a game session. Since the DM hasn't introduced himself, Takuto asked the system to pause the game until he does, so all the tabletop game mechanics are locked while Takuto can still use his 4X mechanics (and RPG ones when transforming into the RPG bosses).

Takuto summons his whole army and they begin beating the shit out of everyone, and after a lot of begging from Erakino the DM finally introduces himself, which continues the play session and allows him to use his DM powers to basically revive everyone from his side and kill everyone from Takuto's side (obviously Takuto was bluffing about his insta-death spell). However, at this point, Takuto once again calls towards the game system and starts a motion to dismiss the DM because of power abuse: it's true the DM is omnipotent in the game, but if he's making up bullshit like this guy did no one would like to play their campaigns, so Takuto calls for a vote to dismiss him based on this:

• Stole a unit from a PC (Atuo)
• Indiscriminate revivals
• Abuse of rolls (always successful clairvoyance and mind control)
• Took far too long to introduce himself
• Unfairly summoning monsters of very high level in lower level zones
• etc.

Since the DM can't vote (because he's the one being judged), and Takuto is the only other player present, he wins the vote to dismiss the DM and he loses all his powers, and all his actions get undone (the mind control, the dead paladins reviving, Takuto's army dying). This is pretty much the end of the match, but at this point Takuto gets a bit greedy and asks the system that since the DM position is currently vacant if he could take over, but the system rejects that and he suffers major feedback, forcing him to retreat before he can deal with the two Saints (Erakino died and the DM got dropped from the game).

Just finished this arc of the LN a couple of weeks ago so it's still fresh, but I might have missed some other important stuff. I would recommend reading this arc because I found the whole conclusion to be really, really well written, much better than anything up to this point.

thanks for the info, btw

Spoiler

it has been so long, so don't care about getting spoiled, how does Erakino gets killed??

On the one hand I'm really enjoying this arc and would like to see it play out without spoilers, on the other hand IT'S BEEN SIX FUCKING YEARS, THE AUTHOR'S GOING AROUND TAKING SIX MONTH BREAKS BETWEEN ONE CHAPTER, THE FUCK YOU MEAN THIS IS THE LATEST CHAPTER? I'M GOING INSANE.

holy FUUUUUUUDGE!! 6 years and we got like only the first year with a normal release rate