Moshu Onna to Akutagawa - Ch. 1 - A View for Two

[MangaDex]

 

[Ana-al-Haqq]

This Fuwa girl kinda looks like me irl. And this Yakushimaru girl kinda has the attitude and mannerisms I have for this world irl...

This is so trippy for me to read...

 

[n3na3]

mm yuri

 

[MrTbomb52]

So the twist will be that shes yuuchan right? Overall really strong first chapter

 

[WaterlilyFlower]

Thanks for the translation; a few days after getting an 87 page debut for another series, this is a nice follow up :>

Typo on page two though;

A siren

 

[SleepySaph]

Thank you so much for translating! This one looks very interesting.

Also, something Ive been wondering about wrt a number of your scanlations, are the Hadith quotes in the end notes specifically relevant to the chapter or just ones you happen to be thinking about at the time?

 

[Ana-al-Haqq]

Thanks for the translation; a few days after getting an 87 page debut for another series, this is a nice follow up :>

Typo on page two though;

fixed.

Thank you so much for translating! This one looks very interesting.

Also, something Ive been wondering about wrt a number of your scanlations, are the Hadith quotes in the end notes specifically relevant to the chapter or just ones you happen to be thinking about at the time?

Of course the quotes are all relevant. A friend closest and most dearest to the mc just drops out of her life, leaving her up for the wolves for years and years. And then this ""Femme Fatale"" comes in and starts smearing her scents all over her, marking her as her own. This Yuu fella no longer has a claim on Fuwa.

 

[youdontknowwho]

...and love me in hell?

 

[SleepySaph]

Of course the quotes are all relevant. A friend closest and most dearest to the mc just drops out of her life, leaving her up for the wolves for years and years. And then this ""Femme Fatale"" comes in and starts smearing her scents all over her, marking her as her own. This Yuu fella no longer has a claim on Fuwa.

I'm operating under the assumption that they will turn out to be the same person, frankly

 

[Kamui]

Maybe this one will have the same twist as that one shot in which the MC killed and replaced the girl the other MC was actually in love with.

 

[PixelGamer199]

Imagine being a random passerby seeing a burning building, so you approach it out of curiosity and you see two women just making out in front of it.

Thanks for the translation! Hoping this one will be better than the author's previous work.

 

[deathpigeon]

so what's the over under on her just being yuu-chan instead of someone who knows yuu-chan?

 

[Colonel-Picquart]

I think it's pretty clear that Yakushimaru is Yuu chan (even has the same start and ending)
The real question is why did she leave Fuwa? Did she secretly hate Belladonna? Or was it a manipulative plot to push her into an emotionally vulnerable place where she could manipulate her?

 

[Yuri_Enjoyer_Deluxe]

Are we sure the previous protag's unhingedness didnt transfer over to this story too?

Seriously she is an emotional wreck, not even hurricanes would leave a wooden village this decimated 🥲

But hey, its all for Yuu, so its worth it! ...Right?

 

[CyberneticSusurrus]

Is there a reason the protagonist is referred to as a "guy" on page 5?
Stands out as weird in English; did the shitty editor use a masculine term in the Japanese?

 

[CyberneticSusurrus]

fixed.


Of course the quotes are all relevant. A friend closest and most dearest to the mc just drops out of her life, leaving her up for the wolves for years and years. And then this ""Femme Fatale"" comes in and starts smearing her scents all over her, marking her as her own. This Yuu fella no longer has a claim on Fuwa.

Yuu-chan is explicitly a girl, according to the work itself, and your own translation.
Why are you calling her a "fella" here?

 

[Ana-al-Haqq]

Is there a reason the protagonist is referred to as a "guy" on page 5?
Stands out as weird in English; did the shitty editor use a masculine term in the Japanese?

Yuu-chan is explicitly a girl, according to the work itself, and your own translation.
Why are you calling her a "fella" here?

Gendered languages of the indo-europids such as yourself are a foreign concept to me. guy/gal fella/fellaine(?) he/she mr/mrs him/her. I might mix them up here and there in small typos. Call them out if you catch them.

And as to that guy and fella.
"Guy" and "Bro" has been used in a genderneutral way for some years in Lingua Anglica, no? As in "bro thinks-" "bro is-" "what is bro-"
Or am I out of touch with the times?

 

[CyberneticSusurrus]

Gendered languages of the indo-europids such as yourself are a foreign concept to me. guy/gal fella/fellaine(?) he/she mr/mrs him/her. I might mix them up here and there in small typos. Call them out if you catch them.

And as to that guy and fella.
"Guy" and "Bro" has been used in a genderneutral way for some years in Lingua Anglica, no? As in "bro thinks-" "bro is-" "what is bro-"
Or am I out of touch with the times?

I did suspect the cause might be coming from a less gendered language.
Apologies for the impending multiple paragraphs, but this particular area of linguistics is of interest to me.

For future reference:

• "Guys" (plural) is sometimes used as a generic term for a group.
  However, it's less common if the group is exclusively girls.
• Conversely, the singular "guy" is basically never used to refer to a specific girl or woman; this applies even more strongly for most other masculine terms.

The use of "guy" and "bro" that you refer to is more specific to young North Americans, and much less common outside of those regions and generations.
Similar applies to "dude".
(Conversely, while "fella" is more associated with older generations and less specifically North American, it has basically no association as a generic term; "fella" is always masculine in usage.)

Linguistically, the broader phenomenon is 'masculine generics', which are definitionally not gender-neutral language.
The distinction being that 'masculine generics' use a masculine term as a generic term.
Whereas gender-neutral language either avoids gendered terms entirely, or uses both masculine and feminine terms together.

For example:

"From each according to their ability, to each according to their needs."​

or - less common these days -

"From each according to his/her ability, to each according to his/her needs.",​

rather than

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.".​

Further commentary and background that's not very relevant to scanlation:

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In fact, the use of masculine terms as generic terms (ie: using a masculine term to refer to a group, or to an unknown/ambiguous/hypothetical individual) has also been on a steady downward trend since the 1970s.
(Use of what's termed 'generic he' was mandated in many professional style guides for quite some time, but nowadays those same style guides recommend fully gender-neutral language instead.)

The reasons for the decline over time include:

1. It's blatantly sexist to assume that the default person is a man, and women around the world continue to complain about this.
2. It leads to less accurate and less precise language, which is generally unhelpful.
3. It directly leads to prejudice and bias in contexts like employment; advertisements that use masculine generics receive fewer women as applicants, and interviewers and hiring managers given instructions with masculine generics consistently rate women below men with the exact same qualifications.

Even the use of grammatical structures like "his/her" are increasingly deprecated and recommended-against in style guides, on account of increasing awareness & visibility of non-binary people.

That is to say, that the modern use of "bro" emerging as dialect in certain demographics (ie: teenagers in the USA) is a modern example of the exact same sexism that's contributed to the decline of masculine generics in general.
(Culturally and politically, it's part of a general reactionary backlash occurring in the USA in recent years; remains to be seen whether that linguistic shift will stick, or whether it'll be something people look back on in the same way as calling everything "gay" in the 90s.)

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TL;DR: You should generally refer to women with terms that refer to women.
(It's the easiest and simplest approach, because there's basically no way to fuck it up.)

 

[Ana-al-Haqq]

I did suspect the cause might be coming from a less gendered language.
Apologies for the impending multiple paragraphs, but this particular area of linguistics is of interest to me.

For future reference:

• "Guys" (plural) is sometimes used as a generic term for a group.
  However, it's less common if the group is exclusively girls.
• Conversely, the singular "guy" is basically never used to refer to a specific girl or woman; this applies even more strongly for most other masculine terms.

The use of "guy" and "bro" that you refer to is more specific to young North Americans, and much less common outside of those regions and generations.
Similar applies to "dude".
(Conversely, while "fella" is more associated with older generations and less specifically North American, it has basically no association as a generic term; "fella" is always masculine in usage.)

Linguistically, the broader phenomenon is 'masculine generics', which are definitionally not gender-neutral language.
The distinction being that 'masculine generics' use a masculine term as a generic term.
Whereas gender-neutral language either avoids gendered terms entirely, or uses both masculine and feminine terms together.

For example:

"From each according to their ability, to each according to their needs."​

or - less common these days -

"From each according to his/her ability, to each according to his/her needs.",​

rather than

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.".​

Further commentary and background that's not very relevant to scanlation:

---

In fact, the use of masculine terms as generic terms (ie: using a masculine term to refer to a group, or to an unknown/ambiguous/hypothetical individual) has also been on a steady downward trend since the 1970s.
(Use of what's termed 'generic he' was mandated in many professional style guides for quite some time, but nowadays those same style guides recommend fully gender-neutral language instead.)

The reasons for the decline over time include:

1. It's blatantly sexist to assume that the default person is a man, and women around the world continue to complain about this.
2. It leads to less accurate and less precise language, which is generally unhelpful.
3. It directly leads to prejudice and bias in contexts like employment; advertisements that use masculine generics receive fewer women as applicants, and interviewers and hiring managers given instructions with masculine generics consistently rate women below men with the exact same qualifications.

Even the use of grammatical structures like "his/her" are increasingly deprecated and recommended-against in style guides, on account of increasing awareness & visibility of non-binary people.

That is to say, that the modern use of "bro" emerging as dialect in certain demographics (ie: teenagers in the USA) is a modern example of the exact same sexism that's contributed to the decline of masculine generics in general.
(Culturally and politically, it's part of a general reactionary backlash occurring in the USA in recent years; remains to be seen whether that linguistic shift will stick, or whether it'll be something people look back on in the same way as calling everything "gay" in the 90s.)

---

TL;DR: You should generally refer to women with terms that refer to women.
(It's the easiest and simplest approach, because there's basically no way to fuck it up.)

I called a chick "guy" once, and bro wrote me an entire essay on the topic... Legendary.