GraPara! - Vol. 14 Ch. 136 - Grapara!

[Jhon1617]

Well you do have a point, that for sure! To be honest i don't remember these details you wrote a few posts ago, it's been quit some time since i read the TL chapters... But i still don't think she is an easy girl that will just go out and do it with anyone. I mean, why would she masturbate in her room constantly and not just use the dating app and get a guy? Hell, if i was a betting man, i'd bet on her still being a virgin actually!

This is going to be the biggest plot twist; she does have a masturbation fetish because she's still a virgin and doesn't want to give herself to just anyone because she's loved the MC for years.

 

[Jhon1617]

También hace unos días salió un nuevo capítulo de "Cómo salir con un perdedor" (no sé si el título es correcto) y ella tuvo sexo con su ex, pero por desesperación. Temía que la dejara, y así fue, jajaja, porque su ex es un imbécil.
Eso fue prácticamente todo…

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[Jhon1617]

Also a few days ago a new chapter of how to date a loser(I don’t know if it’s correct) dropped and she had sex with her ex but out of desperation. She feared that he would leave her which he did lol because her ex is an asshole.
That was pretty much it…

This is another great NTR bait. If we look at the FMC's flashbacks with her ex-boyfriend, and we see a panel of her in underwear but very ambiguous, my opinion is that she was planning to give him her virginity, that he won't leave her because of his insecurities about his father's abandonment, but before she could, she discovered that her ex-boyfriend was cheating on her. So she's still a virgin, because this manga is a romantic comedy and generally in these types of manga, the FMC is always a virgin.

 

[jonasadan]

This is going to be the biggest plot twist; she does have a masturbation fetish because she's still a virgin and doesn't want to give herself to just anyone because she's loved the MC for years.

Wait, how could she have loved the mc for years if he was just a kid? Hahahaha

This is another great NTR bait. If we look at the FMC's flashbacks with her ex-boyfriend, and we see a panel of her in underwear but very ambiguous, my opinion is that she was planning to give him her virginity, that he won't leave her because of his insecurities about his father's abandonment, but before she could, she discovered that her ex-boyfriend was cheating on her. So she's still a virgin, because this manga is a romantic comedy and generally in these types of manga, the FMC is always a virgin.

I think it's normal that she isn't a virgin because she's older and let's say she has a high libido.

 

[shinya78]

They already kissed and she initiated it.. and I still don’t know what you wanna tell us with your whole statements? You want other people to agree with you that it’s not romantically? Funny it has a rom com tag…

I'm starting to wonder if you even actually read what I actually wrote...

I hate to break it to ya, but she does not see the MC as a romantic partner(yet), the MC's an emotional crutch who helped with her depression/loneliness/trauma, of whom she desperately does not want to lose.

okay, downplay the underlying backstory as you want. Truly, none of the backstory matters because people only want to see the surface level stuff, apparently. Luna's background explaining her current actions? DOESN'T MATTER!

Well you do have a point, that for sure! To be honest i don't remember these details you wrote a few posts ago, it's been quit some time since i read the TL chapters... But i still don't think she is an easy girl that will just go out and do it with anyone. I mean, why would she masturbate in her room constantly and not just use the dating app and get a guy? Hell, if i was a betting man, i'd bet on her still being a virgin actually!

I don't believe the story is meant to be that deep as you make it to be. Yeah it has to have a solid back story to justify cousins getting together, but in the end this is not a drama. It pretty predictable how this will progress, and probably very soon... "I love you", "I love you too", "Now we bang!" and everyone is happy! (especially us degenerates who want those sex scenes )

Can't tell if completely serious or satire, but I'll give it a anyway.

KA did so much damage to people recently that any deep backstory is immediately downplayed. It's either that, or people truly just read for the "plot" and not the actual plot.

 

[whorainzoneeee]

I'm starting to wonder if you even actually read what I actually wrote...

okay, downplay the underlying backstory as you want. Truly, none of the backstory matters because people only want to see the surface level stuff, apparently. Luna's background explaining her current actions? DOESN'T MATTER!


Can't tell if completely serious or satire, but I'll give it a anyway.

KA did so much damage to people recently that any deep backstory is immediately downplayed. It's either that, or people truly just read for the "plot" and not the actual plot.

I wonder if you even wanna tell us what you wanna tell us… you are repeating yourself what is your point in those statements? Proving people otherwise? Good luck. giving us some statements we know but getting nullified by the action of Luna and you still trying to sa that she isn’t in love with him… yet she is masturbaitng to him, she is initiating the kiss with him she doesn’t want him to find out her weird fetish because she thinks he will hate her for that… yeah sure that must be just some family love in a romcom story of these two… and see how they have sex in either the next chapter or in the next few than all your assumptions will be gone lmao. Ak cooked some brains but this is not a deep story calm down

 

[whorainzoneeee]

This is another great NTR bait. If we look at the FMC's flashbacks with her ex-boyfriend, and we see a panel of her in underwear but very ambiguous, my opinion is that she was planning to give him her virginity, that he won't leave her because of his insecurities about his father's abandonment, but before she could, she discovered that her ex-boyfriend was cheating on her. So she's still a virgin, because this manga is a romantic comedy and generally in these types of manga, the FMC is always a virgin.

I don’t think she is a virgin tho. Her statement before he proposed to her and now the backstory pretty much clicks

 

[Jhon1617]

I don’t think she is a virgin tho. Her statement before he proposed to her and now the backstory pretty much clicks

Well, she told him that she's stolen many firsts from the MC, like his first girlfriend and his first kiss, so she wants to give him one of her firsts too.

 

[shinya78]

I wonder if you even wanna tell us what you wanna tell us… giving us some statements we know but getting nullified by the action of Luna and you still trying to sa that she isn’t in love with him… yet she is masturbaitng to him, she is initiating the kiss with him she doesn’t want him to find out her weird fetish because she thinks he will hate her for that… yeah Ak cooked some brains but this is not a deep story calm down

I wonder if you even understand the story beyond what is written on the surface level... being given written backstory that explains her actions and you still trying to sa that it isn't important... yet she is masturbaitng to him is no longer enough, anything that "Luna" does she thinks is something he will hate her for so she has to become "Luna-nee" once again so he will not hate her... yeah Ak cooked some brains alright but this is not as shallow as you think calm down

 

[whorainzoneeee]

I wonder if you even understand the story beyond what is written on the surface level... being given written backstory that explains her actions and you still trying to sa that it isn't important... yet she is masturbaitng to him is no longer enough, anything that "Luna" does she thinks is something he will hate her for so she has to become "Luna-nee" once again so he will not hate her... yeah Ak cooked some brains alright but this is not as shallow as you think calm down

Never stated it anywhere lmao. And yeah it is it’s still a romcom acting like it’s some berserk level writing calm down and go on proving something to someone. This Trade of comments gets embarrassing

 

[whorainzoneeee]

Well, she told him that she's stolen many firsts from the MC, like his first girlfriend and his first kiss, so she wants to give him one of her firsts too.

Yeah it could be that she is a virgin and she means that but it could also mean like she said that she has not much to give him for the first and he suggested that both should marry that would be her first

 

[shinya78]

Never stated it anywhere lmao. And yeah it is it’s still a romcom acting like it’s some berserk level writing calm down and go on proving something to someone. This Trade of comments gets embarrassing

You completely ignoring the written backstory in favor of your preferred outcome without considering the other possibility is evidence enough lmao. yeah sure that must be just some family love in a romcom story of these two… and see how they don't have sex in either the next chapter or in the next few than all your assumptions will be gone lmao. And yeah it is it's still a romcom but that doesn't mean it can't have some depth in it calm down and go get your approvals or something from someone. This Trade of comments gets embarrassing

 

[whorainzoneeee]

You completely ignoring the written backstory in favor of your preferred outcome without considering the other possibility is evidence enough lmao. yeah sure that must be just some family love in a romcom story of these two… and see how they don't have sex in either the next chapter or in the next few than all your assumptions will be gone lmao. And yeah it is it's still a romcom but that doesn't mean it can't have some depth in it calm down and go get your approvals or something from someone. This Trade of comments gets embarrassing

that will age like milk in a few weeks. Not to mention that the majority(here in this thread) think that they will sleep together and be together in a few weeks… the approval is rn in front of you. Also coping my comments make you look embarrassing.
came here just to be a pain in the neck for those hoping it would be a normal romance
Saying that have a good day and keep going with your useless assumptions

 

[shinya78]

that will age like milk in a few weeks. Not to mention that the majority think that they will sleep together and be together in a few weeks… the approval is rn in front of you. Also coping my comments make you look embarrassing. Saying that have a good day and keep going with your useless assumptions

that will age like milk in a few weeks. Not to mention despite that the majority think that they will sleep together and be together in a few weeks… none of that matters until the author reveals what happens next. the approval is rn in front of you. Also coping my comments make you look embarrassing. Saying that have a good day and keep going with your useless assumptions

 

[whorainzoneeee]

that will age like milk in a few weeks. Not to mention despite that the majority think that they will sleep together and be together in a few weeks… none of that matters until the author reveals what happens next. the approval is rn in front of you. Also coping my comments make you look embarrassing. Saying that have a good day and keep going with your useless assumptions

Guessed so.

 

[SS-2010]

I really hope people do not harass this author.

People don't understand that the rom-com enjoyers that read Grapara, also read other rom-com mangas. This one is for sure among them. That's why i made that comment about ballsy authors lol

At this stage, after what happened to Grapara, every rom-com author should be very careful about doing anything that might even smell like NTR. The smallest thing will trigger the online mob now... So it's not a surprise he is getting hate even if nothing is confirmed.

It is Airi Katsura's fault to make people scared of pure love become a fake one.

I think even they read a pure romance manga lthat surely isn't a NTR,people will think that is weird when the FMC interacts with a guy that is not the MC.

Airi made a hole new genaration of fans being traumatized like that.

What @Cross-21- mentioned is the reason why I believe Airi Katsura (sensei) is mentally ill (but I don't know how much sickness she had) because the insane person will behave like this world belong to them and there is no rule or law but their own rule. In this case, AK (sensei) behaved like all rom-com readers never and won't read the other manga except Grapara.

She ignore this fact, she said she could do whatever she wanted on her official statement on X. Normal people won't say that. I'm glad some people noticed and shared the same idea that she's sicked (I'm not alone) but I'm not glad at the fact that she's sicked. So sad. She does need to see the doctor. I hope she's doing it now.

@Jhon1617 and @hugorito420 , I don't think you'd be worried too much about the authors unless they're mentally ill as AK (sensei). The difference between ordinary author and AK (sensei) is, they listen to their readers and try to compromise.

Readers always warn or ask the author not to go on full NTR and all of them didn't or wouldn't do it. It was just AK (sensei) who didn't read or listen to JP comments in chapter 128 asking for Sakura to survive again like she did with the director and the previous chapters.

AK (sensei) is mentally ill, she thinks our world belong to her and she rules this world. So, she did it because her editor is also mentally ill, noticing from the chapter 129's title (Ahh..Narh..Ahh) ! I do believe Kodansha changed her editor after chapter 129 backlash already. Not sure the editor went to see the doctor or not.

I don't believe we'll be unlucky to meet both the author and editor who are mentally ill like AK (sensei) and her editor again. LOL

If you read comments from many platforms, you can read the common idea, people are asking Keishi Nishikida sensei, the artist, to work with the other author. It reflects that they really hate AK (sensei) and blacklist her from the mainstream manga already. Her option now is to change Sakura's penetration in chapter 129 or to send back to make only the hentai doujin for the rest of her life.

Now she becomes the QUEEN of ROMCOM FRAUD who is number one enemy of rom-com readers, not just in Japan but for the whole world of manga readers. She's a manga criminal regardless her mental illness. So sad but she got what she did.

Positively, as @Cross-21- said, she'll encourage the other manga author to be more careful about the NTR in manga (but not affect doujinshi).

 

[hugorito420]

What @Cross-21- mentioned is the reason why I believe Airi Katsura (sensei) is mentally ill (but I don't know how much sickness she had) because the insane person will behave like this world belong to them and there is no rule or law but their own rule. In this case, AK (sensei) behaved like all rom-com readers never and won't read the other manga except Grapara.

She ignore this fact, she said she could do whatever she wanted on her official statement on X. Normal people won't say that. I'm glad some people noticed and shared the same idea that she's sicked (I'm not alone) but I'm not glad at the fact that she's sicked. So sad. She does need to see the doctor. I hope she's doing it now.

@Jhon1617 and @hugorito420 , I don't think you'd be worried too much about the authors unless they're mentally ill as AK (sensei). The difference between ordinary author and AK (sensei) is, they listen to their readers and try to compromise.

Readers always warn or ask the author not to go on full NTR and all of they didn't or wouldn't do it. Just AK (sensei) who didn't read or listen to JP comments in chapter 128 asking for Sakura to survive again like she did with the director and the previous chapters.

AK (sensei) is mentally ill, she thinks our world belong to her and she rules this world. So, she did it because her editor is also mentally ill, noticing from the chapter 129's title (Ahh..Narh..Ahh) ! I do believe Kodansha changed her editor after chapter 129 backlash already. Not sure the editor went to see the doctor or not.

I don't believe we'll be unlucky to meet both the author and editor who are mentally ill like AK (sensei) and her editor again. LOL

If you read comments from many platforms, you can read the common idea, people are asking Keishi Nishikida sensei, the artist, to work with the other author. It reflects that they really hate AK (sensei) and blacklist her from the mainstream manga already. Her option now is to change Sakura's penetration in chapter 129 or to send back to make only the hentai doujin for the rest of her life.

Now she becomes the QUEEN of ROMCOM FRAUD who is number one enemy of rom-com readers, not just in Japan but for the whole world of manga readers. She's a manga criminal regardless her mental illness. So sad but she got what she did.

Positively, as @Cross-21- said, she'll encourage the other manga author to be more careful about the NTR in manga (but not affect doujinshi).

I'm not worried,i pointed more about the other people who are way too worried about that.

 

[shinya78]

Guessed so.

If all you wanted was my personal take on the chapter, then here, happy?

So Luna is having sex with other men to control her desires for the MC?

I don't know why my post that you quoted is suddenly in Español and had the ispoiler tags removed, but yeah that's the theory. At least keep the spoiler tags in if you edited it to Spanish.

We don't know if she went all the way this time around because absolutely none of it, not counting Naoto's imagination, has been shown. Not that it would matter if the theory proves true.

Do I personally think she had sex in the latest chapter? Dunno, the author actually never showed what happened. She could have went through with it, she also couldn't have and cancelled after the drinks. She could even had went drinking after doing, or not doing the deed. The current theory based on what's revealed thus far leans on maybe, but since it's not been proven yet, you choose what you think happened, I won't.

Do I personally think the rumours about her being a slut in the past is true? Dunno, the author never revealed the truth yet. It could be just slander, it could have actually happened. At the moment, it is leaning towards "maybe, but she her reasons" if, AND ONLY IF, she went all the way with the guy in the latest chapter.

Do I personally think she is romantically in love with the MC? No, at least not yet. What has been shown was that she did not want to separate from him (chapter 4 flashback) indicating dependency (she NEEDS to be beside him to truly feel happy), they did get separated once (her disappearing from Naoto 10 years prior), all her current actions in the present is so that they won't get separated again (because she NEEDS to be beside him to truly feel happy, she likely doesn't even know what it means to be romantically attracted to someone).

Do I personally believe her statement that she does not have a lover? Yes, because of her dependency on the MC's mere presence beside her making her feel truly happy like she had in the past, she does not want or even need ANYTHING ELSE, that may include becoming lovers with the MC. She probably doesn't even know what it means to be "romantically in love" with someone because she feels happy enough just by being within the MC's vicinity.

Do I personally believe the two will be together by the end of the story? In one way or another, yes. This is pretty much guaranteed, but the shape on how they will be together in the end remains a mystery for another day.

Do I personally think the author flew too close to Katsura? Story-wise? No, despite all the sus possibilities that could've meant NTR happened, there's always a way out with the possibility that NTR never happened via not showing the readers what actually happened by blocking the view or a timeskip. IRL? Probably, there are reports of people getting mad about the latest chapter in Twitter, not that it matters, I mean it's Twitter, people get mad at everything there.

Do I personally care much for Katsura's future career as an author? For mainstream consumption? No, what her Editors gave the ok for release is very much career-ending, sabotage levels even one could say if they have the evidence for it. For doujin works? No, unless she makes an official "I'm Gonna Fix That Girl version" of her works, she's not going to be a go-to.

Will I pick a side, YES or NO, in the whole "is the manga NTR or NOT?" debate? No, my side is always "only what the author had revealed so far".

Do I personally think the MC and FMC will have sex? Dunno, the author could write it so the two could have sex the next chapter, the last chapter, or not at all. Until the author reveals the truth, remember... Nothing Is True, Everything is Permitted.

 

[HirugashiX]

Yeah it could be that she is a virgin and she means that but it could also mean like she said that she has not much to give him for the first and he suggested that both should marry that would be her first

Respectfully i’m ngl first marriage doesn’t make much sense so it’s probably something else. It could also be that she almost did it with her ex but actually didn’t because he dumped her. The artist also recently responded on her twitter she will be making a happy ending for both of them so let’s see. Also, i don’t think it really matters if he got her first time or not if she is going to have his baby lol.

 

[box2024]

Respectfully i’m ngl first marriage doesn’t make much sense so it’s probably something else. It could also be that she almost did it with her ex but actually didn’t because he dumped her. The artist also recently responded on her twitter she will be making a happy ending for both of them so let’s see. Also, i don’t think it really matters if he got her first time or not if she is going to have her baby lol.

Ok what maga are you all talking about? I wanna join in.